Pride should stem from good personal decisions or accomplishments given one’s situation and life circumstances. Being born somewhere isn’t a decision nor an accomplishment.
Pride should stem from good personal decisions or accomplishments given one’s situation and life circumstances. Being born somewhere isn’t a decision nor an accomplishment.
So I shouldn’t proud of my personal identity and my roots? Which literally plays a huge part of who I am today and especially, where I was brought up cuz without it, I wouldn’t be me and I wouldn’t have an identity without it.
But ok then go off………
Not really. We all came from somewhere. We all have an identity. Unless you worked hard for it, you shouldn’t feel pride in it. Someone else worked hard for it, THEY should feel pride for it. You should feel humble, grateful, or lucky that you are able to enjoy it (assuming they’re good “roots”). You shouldn’t feel pride in having won the lottery.
You still have your identity without having to feel proud about it.
My country sucks big time. Should I feel ashamed even though I contributed nothing to its suckiness?
You nailed it. Most correct and succinct comment in the thread.
That’s a leap in logic. Pride is a personal thing no one else can dictate what you are or aren’t proud of, nor can they dictate what you’re ashamed of. Someone else being proud of their heritage in no way implies that you have to he ashamed of yours.
They can feel whatever they want, it is their freedom.
I am just saying that there is no good reason for their national pride.
The long standing definitions of the word that don’t necessitate that you can only be proud of things you’ve personally done seem like plenty good reason to me. National pride isn’t an excuse to be an asshole or a bigot or to oppress people, but national pride has never been necessary for people to exhibit that sort of behaviour. Being proud of your origins and your roots and where you’ve come from is not inherently a bad thing if you’re mindful about it. And just because you don’t personally feel proud of your own roots, and I’m sure your reasons for feeling that way are perfectly legitimate, that doesn’t mean you have to project your personal feelings towards your own roots on other people who feel differently about theirs.