I’ve heard the reaction from the left on this already, and it’s all too predictable, but…she’s right.
You can’t expect a sitting President to not re-run for office. Of course Biden is going to run.
In Trump’s mind, and in the minds of a lot of his supporters, he is the “rightful” sitting President, so of course he’s going to run too.
Are they the BEST choices? Of course not. But they are THE choices.
Well… yeah you can. Why can’t you?
Huh? You find it unreasonable that someone sitting in the most powerful elected position on the planet, with the opportunity to extend that seat, would choose to run again???
When he’s 81 and unpopular, yes
No, that’s an external view. That’s your view.
The comment, the point, is about his perspective.
Yes, in his perspective he should look at himself and say “wow, I shouldn’t run again”. He did not, because he likes the power and pats on the back the Democratic Party gives him for clinging to life
Miss.
He clearly believes, or wants, to run again. Source? He’s running again.
In YOUR perspective he should look in the mirror and say “wow I shouldn’t run again”.
I share your perspective, but that ship has sailed. What democrat is next? The work of building a new candidate needs to start yesterday.
Oh you were just being pedantic.
Yes, I dunno. Hopefully the next one can actually rope me in.
Because nobody tells someone at that power level what to do.
They can choose, on their own, not to run like Johnson did in 1968. But no outside influence can or should tell a President they can’t run.
I thought the whole point of having a democracy was people got to choose their leaders.
If you’re saying leaders become too powerful to reject, that’s troubling.
You get to choose, between the Republican nominee and the Democratic nominee.
If you vote Libertarian, you are helping Biden by taking away a Trump vote.
If you vote Green, you are helping Trump by taking away a Biden vote.
To clarify, the above wasn’t some kind of rhetorical question. I’m not American and am not asking for voting guidance.
You seemed to be saying that once a politician gets to a position of power, voters are no longer allowed to try to influence their decisions around whether to run, be the nominee etc.
That seems problematic to me, and against the basic principles of democracy, so I’m querying it.
Incumbent politicians have multiple advantages, but if you don’t want them then the choice is to vote for their opponent or not vote, which really is the same thing.
That seems really anti-democracy. If an incumbent performs poorly or breaks promises there should be mechanisms for people to ask to select another candidate to represent them.
Reject no, this is about Biden choosing to run
The people had the opportunity to choose during the primary whether they wanted to vote for someone else who holds mostly similar views (e.g. the same political party) to their own, or the person currently doing the job. There weren’t a lot of people from the same political party that offered themselves up as challengers to the person currently doing the job, for a variety of reasons. Our system heavily favors the person currently doing the job in our primary elections, but challenges have been made before, just not this time.
If you think no one tells Joe Biden what he should be doing on the daily you might be more demented than he is.
“should do” and “to do” are two entirely different things. :)
Well… they also do that.
Also, even taking that statement as literal - is that supposed to be a good thing? “Despite his staff and advisors urging him to not run again, in a bid for power he is again!”
How is it that there are all these people who have nothing to do with political office in their daily lives who know all the personal conversations and thoughts of the inner circles of the presidency?
Are you unaware of the extremely basic fact that essentially every president in US history has relied incredibly strongly on a wide team of advisors and cabinet members.
They teach you that in middle school civics. Did you think the presidency was like in a movie where it’s just one guy who decides to do everything he does? Do you think Biden sits there with a calculator running the numbers??
It’s not “in a bid for power”, it’s to block Trump. If Trump weren’t running Biden would likely dust off his hands, go “My work here is done!” and quietly retire at the end of his term.
If something happened to take Trump out of the race, especially between now and the conventions in July and August, I think Biden would bow out, but he won’t as long as Trump is around.
I simply don’t believe that Biden is the most electable person in the country against Trump lol
you can’t expect him to, no.
you can WANT him to. you can be pleasantly surprised if he does.
but expect him to? come on.
You can expect it if you want to. You can expect whatever you want. It’s just your expectations won’t mirror reality.
I guess so. I just hope the Democratic Party know that their expectations for me to vote for Joe Biden again won’t mirror reality
If your friends won’t expect then you can leave your friends behind
And you know what should happen? There should be actual primaries. But they’re not even pretending at this point.
You don’t have real primaries for a sitting President. You just don’t. See any previous election ever. Trump 2020, Obama 2012, Bush 2004, etc. etc. etc.
They lead the party for a reason.
On the Republican side this year, they TRIED to primary Trump and, well, you see how well that worked out.
Such a nasty woman.
Voters to Clinton: “Go Away! It’s your fault we’re in this mess to begin with.”
Clinton is reportedly set to host a Broadway-themed fundraiser with “Hamilton” star Lin-Manuel Miranda on Wednesday.
Another sign that Hillary is forever stuck in 2016 lol. Will corporate Dems ever move on from milking Hamilton dry?
Stop giving this woman attention
The lady’s strategy was to prop up Trump and lost to him. I don’t care about her opinions at all. I didn’t forget she went around calling Black people Super Predators.
I didn’t forget she went around calling Black People Super Predators
The Clinton’s get a lot of heat for that, but it was literally Joe Biden’s bill…
This protestor asked her about it at a fundraiser https://youtu.be/MN6iwqthZrU
You first!
She’s so terrible. Like why does she even speak to the media? Lady shut the fuck up. You literally ruined the country with your hegemonic wet dream.
Fucking loser.
I wish she would just go away.
Hillary Clinton’s “help” can only be a detriment.
Here she goes again, it’s 2016 all over again!
Remember this? https://youtu.be/ydx8C5eMH4I
I don’t think anything can top my favorite Hillary moment ever. I still regularly laugh until I cry when I watch it. It hurts so good.
Remember her smugness on same sex marriage?
like this? youtube
Weird how only one of the most prominent female politicians gets vitriol, look at this thread just hate, for having mainstream Democrat views. I don’t agree with either of them, and not a fan of Obama, but you would not see a thread filled with hate from an Obama sound bite. This is sexism, Hilary has always been right about the sexism.
F Obama too! Hope and change my ass! He’s also a war criminal.
Yeah I agree with that. But the level of hate is disproportionate for Hilary bc of sexism
Hillary says something stupid, everyone continues to not care what the fuck Hillary thinks about anything.
The amount of visceral anger in this thread seems to indicate that people seem to actually care quite a lot about what she says.
If people actually didn’t care, they wouldn’t have clicked on this.
We cared enough to tell this stupid loser to shut the fuck up and go away forever, but that’s about it.
I clicked because I knew there would be people complaining about it, and those people need to stop being so goddamn idealistic.
These are the choices. They’re shitty. They’re always shitty. It’s a shitty system of government, stop expecting it not to be.
Or we can fight to make it better
If it was actual, literal fighting I might believe you.
That’s rich coming from the woman who proped up and helped fund Trump. Shes more responsible for him than any single voter could be. Gr
She’s practically the most destructive person in American history with few exceptions.
more destructive than Trump? than Reagan? than GW Bush? Than James Buchanan? than Franklin Pierce? than Andrew Johnson?
more destructive than Mitch McConnell? than Ted Cruz? than Ron Desantis?
fuck me you people are detached.
I mean I do absolutely think there are more destructive people of course but like… There should be a special place in hell for people that start the countdown on a bomb because they think the panic will get them into power faster.
She pushed a force of destruction and chaos because the idea of it made her think she would have control to disarm it and be the hero and get an easy win. Chicken or the egg, do you blame the bomb or the person who helped deliver and see it off. Granted Trump already wanted revenger for Obama existing and Reagan is a piece of shit so they are definitely both worse people overall but still Hillary doesn’t have clean hands in all this. Just a modern traitor.
Canadian here, who is aware of a lot of US politics, but not all. I’m confused about how she propped up and funded Trump. I know they were friends in previous years. Was this in business?
