• rayyy@lemmy.world
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    The World Central Kitchen charity suspended delivery of food to starving Palestinians on Tuesday - this was the real goal of the attack.

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      Yep. Israel will just investigate themselves and say whoopsies but the message couldn’t have been more clear.

      They’re fucking evil.

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    Israel claims it was unintentional.

    This is the fourth clearly marked and coordinated aid convoy that I can recall getting hit just from news stories.

    The only thing unintentional about this was killing passport holders from western countries. This is a clear pattern of targeting aid convoys.

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      Intentional or blatantly incompetent, it’s quite clear that Israel is using the same playbook as Putin when he strikes civilians in Ukraine.

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        Israel is way worse than Putin: all it takes is looking at the numbers of civilian deaths in merelly the first month of the Israelli attack on Gaza compared to the whole of the Invasion of Ukraine.

        Not excusing Putin by the way, just pointing out how much more extreme Israel is in the Fascist scales.

        You get the impression that Putin has no care at all about human life, but he is not driven by extreme racism, whilst Israel most definitelly is driven by extreme racism and hence they’re activelly trying to exterminate an entire etnic group whom they call “human animals” which is why we keep on seeing from them all varieties of barbarous acts, not just bombings with massive “building” (500lb) and “residential block” (2000lb) wipping bombs and targetting humanitarian vehicles like this but even the use white posphurous against civilians and snipping of childrem.

        Next to them Putin is merely a Fascist whilst Israel are full-on Nazis.

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          I must object to one point. Putin is absolutely driven by extreme racism. His right-hand man is Aleksandr Dugin after all. Putin would have no problem committing genocide. The only difference is that Ukrainians are a closer peer-enemy and can actually defend themselves from Russian barbarism. They actually have room to move civilians away from concentrated areas.

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            Putin wants Ukranians to become Russians to the point of kidnapping Ukranian kids to give them to Russian families. That’s not at all how the very racist relate to those they see as lesser.

            Meanwhile Israeli soldiers will even snipe little palestinian kids, not just bomb them or starve them to death (which can be done without actually looking at their faces), but framing their faces on the scope of a rifle and shotting them on the head.

            Whilst I agree that Putin is also a racist even when it comes to Ukranians (and way much worse when it comes to non-Slavs) he’s nowhere as close to being as much of a racist as a large part (maybe most) of the Israeli society, especially their leadership and army.

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              Yes, that is called ethnic genocide. If he can’t convert them, he will eliminate them. He has no qualms about that.

              At the same time, he is conscripting from ethnic minorities within domestic Russia above any other group first to be used as meat-grinders. Another action exemplifying clear genocidal intent.

              Make no mistake: Putin would have no problem eliminating any Ukrainian who doesn’t bow. See Bucha. See the Mariupol Theater. Talk to a Ukrainian.

          • davel [he/him]@lemmy.ml
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            His right-hand man is Aleksandr Dugin

            Bullshit. Dugin is a Western chauvinist fascist who is ideologically aligned with the Ukrainian coup government and the Ukrainian Nazis who terrorized the Donbas for almost a decade before Russia intervened two years ago. In what universe is he Putin’s “right-hand man”?

            The US would absolutely love to have a regime change that put Dugin in power, because he would invite the American shock therapists back in to finish the plundering that they started in the ’90s under Yeltsin, and that Putin put an end to.

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      I bet that was intentional as well. Their strategy is to starve Gaza, and after these killings all international aid agencies are pulling out. No food will be going in. It’s the same with their targeting of reporters and their families: they don’t want information to come out either.

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    Usually not the biggest fan of bellingcat because they tend to be overconfident (and often wrong as a result), but when you have a surplus of information like in this case there’s little they can deny…

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        Conflating Bellingcat with the CIA is a hilariously bad take.

        “Last year marked the final year of project funding from the National Endowment for Democracy (NED) that provided funding for Russian-language workshops at no cost to journalists and human rights researchers based in Russia, Ukraine, Central Asia and the Caucasus. We continued our project for the Swedish Postcode Lottery (SPL), which among others supported free trainings on ideological extremism for organisations in Europe.”

        You seem to be misinformed. Also, provide proof that the NED is CIA, because that is quite a claim!

        That is however a claim promulgated by the propaganda arm of the Chinese Communist State:

        The United States has long used democracy as a tool and a weapon to undermine democracy in the name of democracy, to incite division and confrontation, and to meddle in other countries’ internal affairs, causing catastrophic consequences.

        Link: https://www.fmprc.gov.cn/eng/zxxx_662805/202205/t20220507_10683090.html

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          That is however a claim promulgated by the propaganda arm of the Chinese Communist State:

          The United States has long used democracy as a tool and a weapon to undermine democracy in the name of democracy, to incite division and confrontation, and to meddle in other countries’ internal affairs, causing catastrophic consequences.

          Wow, thanks for letting me know that the CCP actually knows what they’re talking about on this issue

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            Yep, look at all the democracy the state department is supporting right now in Pakistan.

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              Yeah the US doesn’t support “democracy”, they support the material interests of the US. Which occasionally, but certainly not always, overlap with free democratic elections

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          The United States has long used democracy as a tool and a weapon to undermine democracy in the name of democracy, to incite division and confrontation, and to meddle in other countries’ internal affairs, causing catastrophic consequences.

          Well they’re correct

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          According to Allen Weinstein, the founder of the NED, “A lot of what we do today was done covertly 25 years ago by the CIA”.

          The NED is not the CIA (and the degree of inter-agency cooperation is likely not much greater than that between the CIA and NSA), but it serves the same purpose as an arm of the US intelligence apparatus. This is indisputable, as admitted directly by the founder of the NED.

          IIRC with the pending fall of the Soviet Union (the primary counterweight to US influence) the US no longer saw a need for covertly influencing governments.

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    this was on purpose. the World Central Kitchen notified the IDF about their movement, and their vehicles were clearly marked. there is no way this was an accident. the IDF purposely killed aid workers delivering food to Gaza. if this isn’t an indicator of their genocidal intentions, i don’t know what is

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      Worse, they purposely targeted and killed an American, and our government will still supply them weapons. Israel can do whatever the hell it wants with no punishment. I’m so disgusted at this point. Definatley not voting for Genocide Joe now.

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          I want neither of the two main options. Period. And my vote will reflect that. And if this country were sane, everyone’s vote should reflect that.

          By the way, this is NOT the way you get votes for biden. Responding to unhappy voters with “BUT TRUMP” just makes us want to stay home. Get your candidate to earn my vote if trump scares you so badly. Because the democrats will just run someone MORE abhorrent four years from now.

          I plan to flee the country if trump wins and have the means to do it. So if you’re so concerned, get the Democrats to shame their candidate into arguing for a ceasefire.

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            that’s all well and good, but one of the two will get in office no matter what. might as well suck it up and vote for the lesser evil.

            besides, you said yourself which one you’d prefer. you’d flee the country if Trump got into office, and you acknowledge that the Democrats can be shamed into doing the right thing (unlike the Republicans). if it makes the choice more palatable, think of it not as a vote for someone but a vote against someone. not voting at all is complicity.

    • vind@lemmy.world
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      It also wasn’t just 1 car, they hit 3 separate WCK cars 1km apart from each other. Killing 7 international aid workers.

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          The ones whose paycheck depends on believing it, yeah. Everyone that received support from AIPAC, the mainstream media, etc. They just need the thinnest excuse to parrot and somehow manage to live with themselves.

  • IninewCrow@lemmy.ca
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    You think?

    It was a small enough projectile that hit right directly on one small truck with enough destructive power to kill the occupants but not so much that it would completely blow up the entire vehicle.

    Can’t get any more precise than that … unless it was a sniper that would just shoot one person.

  • AutoTL;DR@lemmings.worldB
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    This is the best summary I could come up with:


    The food charity World Central Kitchen (WCK) said they had coordinated the convoy’s movements with the Israel Defense Forces.

    In response to the strike, the IDF stated that it “is conducting a thorough review at the highest levels to understand the circumstances of this tragic incident.”

    Israel’s Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said on Tuesday the aid workers were killed in an “unintended strike.”The destroyed vehicles bear the hallmarks of a precision strike, which only the IDF has the capability to conduct in the region.

    The WCK said: “the convoy was hit as it was leaving the Deir al-Balah warehouse, where the team had unloaded more than 100 tons of humanitarian food aid brought to Gaza on the maritime route.”

    Although not possible to be certain without fragments of the munition itself, the WCK vehicles bear the hallmarks of a precision strike by inert or low-yield missiles.

    Some, called “electro-optically guided” are physically directed to their target by an operator watching a TV feed, such as the Spike NLOS.


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  • D61 [any]@hexbear.net
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    Three missiles hit three vehicles directly that were spaced hundreds of meters apart. Nothing on purpose about that, nope, not at all.

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    Israel has been touting the WCK as an alternative to UNRWA. This actually hurts their image. If this is indeed a precision strike, I wonder if there are competing factions within the Israeli military, with diverging agendas…