• UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        0
        ·
        4 months ago

        For all the Newsweek agitprop, it should be noted that “Whiteness” isn’t clearly defined. Its a political definition that can include East Indians and exclude Poles and the Irish, depending on who is writing the law.

        In a city like NY, with a very long and tawdry record on race politics, it can get confusing for a person wandering through a history exhibit to understand how and why certain ethnic cohorts gain or lose their “White” qualifier. So a museum establishing some kind of historically informed guideline to clarify can be helpful. Particularly when so much of their audience may be themselves or have relatives in their own living history who did not qualify as they do today.

        • MacN'Cheezus@lemmy.today
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          0
          ·
          4 months ago

          I don’t know that it’s agitprop, many other outlets reported on this as well and Newsweek’s article seems rather matter-of-factly and doesn’t really take any sides on this issue. As far as political leaning goes, Newsweek is pretty much right in the center, that’s why I chose their article on it, in order to have as little bias as possible.

          • UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            0
            ·
            4 months ago

            As far as political leaning goes, Newsweek is pretty much right in the center

            Citing “Forbes”, a magazine owned and operated by a former Republican Presidential candidate and The Wall Street Journal, a Murdoch publication, in the center of the spectrum is… definitely one way to weight the scales. Bloomberg, a publication entirely by and for Wall Street, is center-left? Hell, the State Department’s favorite news network, MSNBC, is in the same column as Jacobin and The Intercept?

            Come on, dude.

            • MacN'Cheezus@lemmy.today
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              0
              ·
              4 months ago

              Feel free to provide a better chart, I just googled “media bias” and clicked the first link that came up.

              Either way, as far as I know, Newsweek isn’t exactly known for spicy takes or hardline opinions. It also just happened to be the first search result, so perhaps I’m just lazy.

        • Anamnesis@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          0
          ·
          4 months ago

          I found it funny that when applying for jobs with the NYC government, Italians were not actually considered white. They were included in the affirmative action policies with other minorities. Definitely shows how the category of whiteness can evolve.

          • UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            0
            ·
            4 months ago

            I mean, its amusing at first glance. But half my family is Italian. Quite a few of them have stories from parents/grandparents, etc about the genuinely nasty racist policies the city had towards Italians, Latinos, and Irish ex-pats - everything from redlining policies and employment blacklists to police gangs brutalizing relatives and government officials refusing to honor debts or outright stealing property unimpeded.

            The social and legal justifications used are all common to the Smithsonian “Aspects of Whiteness” list above. Italians were generally described as a lazy, untrustworthy, dimwitted, and even sub-human population. They were accused of everything from vagrancy and slobbery to organized pedophilia. And that, unsurprisingly, had an impact on Italian immigrant community abilities to accrue wealth and status in the city and the surrounding areas.

            That’s much less true now (although curiously not entirely absent, depending on who you talk to). But the legacy of discrimination has a real downward impact on plenty of people’s livelihoods to this day. If nothing else, there’s a ton of NYC real estate in the hands of grandchildren of kleptocrats who profited by seizing it from folks lower on the racial totem pole.