I’d prefer to get a VPN to avoid the risk of my internet getting shut down, but I’m not aware of what the options for Linux are. I figured this would be a good place to ask.

  • sag@lemm.ee
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    6 months ago

    I use Proton VPN to bypass censorship. Use Remote Torrenting for torrent.

  • shaytan@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    6 months ago
    • Mullvad: Very privacy focused, ok priced, very robust. Sadly they removed port forwarding not too long ago.
    • AirVPN: Good speeds, many servers, cheap, port fowarding.
    • ProtonVPN: Works well, specially if you like the idea of getting their services together (mail, cloud, vpn)
  • iiGxC@slrpnk.net
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    6 months ago

    Mullvad, it has ipv6 and works on linux even if you don’t use NetworkManager. Protonvpn doesn’t have ipv6 and only works with networkmanager

    Also last I checked, mullvad wireguard works in the app, whereas proton requires special setup

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      6 months ago

      Mullvad doesn’t offer port forwarding anymore if that’s important to you.

  • B1naryB0t@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    6 months ago

    Proton and Mullvad have the best privacy record, but I want to suggest a different tool. VPNs are really only useful for tunneling and adding an extra layer of anonymity, there’s no total assurance they won’t rat on you or get breached.

    Real-Debrid is a way to torrent without risking ISP shutting down. Other debrid services exist, I just prefer real-debrid. The debrid service does the illegal part and you download over high speed. It’s also more available since you can think of it like a very large scale seedbox. There’s also implementation for most media center apps.

    Real Debrid Link

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        6 months ago

        People get weird about VPNs. I think it’s the way that they’re marketed as security solution which is not really true these days.

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      6 months ago

      I didn’t see anything about not keeping logs (please correct me if I just missed it). Also, they don’t have any built-in DNS protection, and it’s expensive at $8.34usd/month.

      It’s an interesting idea to stratify your VPN and force individual apps to bind to their own tunnels, but seems like a lot of extra setup for little payoff, and if you can’t be certain they’re not keeping logs, there’s little benefit to having multiple VPN connections vs one.

      Please, feel free to correct me if I’ve misunderstood something.

      • glowie@h4x0r.host
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        They do have built in DNS protection, it’s just not DNS servers controlled by them. You can pick presets from AdGuard, Cloudflare, etc. Or, use your own.

        Regarding logging, I’m not sure I understand entirely how it’s relevant to a service such as SPN. Have you used Tor and wondered if the nodes are logging? SPN is also an onion router. So, the exit node will not know your origin, even if they are logging. Of course, we could go down rabbit holes about speculative traffic correlation and/or timing attacks, but that’s a separate discussion. A large portion of the SPN network is also community operated nodes.

        SPN nodes can also be run by anyone without needing a large investment of staked cryptocurrency, unlike another onion router Lokinet. This lowers the barrier to entry for a more diverse number of community contributed nodes to SPN.

        These aren’t necessarily multiple VPN connections. Instead, every network request is sprayed across the SPN network based upon your desired number of hops and other settings. This means one app might see you as being in Iceland while another in Australia, etc. It bounces every connection around the network. If someone were trying to track you, it’d make it just a little more difficult than a static location connection with a traditional VPN.

        Hope this helps and you give it a try.

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          6 months ago

          How is network speed? Even with a multihop VPN, each hop degrades the speed. If it’s operating like the Tor network, I would expect that it would experience the same kind of speed degradation.

          And speaking of multihop, I wonder what extra benefit you’d get from a service like SPN and a VPN that offers multihop…?

          Not trying to piss on your suggestion, just trying to scrutinize the benefits.

          • glowie@h4x0r.host
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            6 months ago

            SPN has a maximum of 3 hops (same as Tor), unlike Proton, IVPN, Nord, etc that do a dual-VPN, multihop, whatever you want to call it, with only 2 hops.

            I’ve added 2 additional hops via network infra through VPN chaining and I still achieve upwards of 150mbps down on a 1gbps connection with a total of 5 hops. So, I feel the speed achieved considering so many hops is pretty amazing. Of course, depending on the locations routed, may have high ms ping.

            Even if you just purchase 1 month, the worst case scenario is you’ve lost $8. The best case scenario is you’ve found your new fav open-source Linux network manager with an onion router like me.

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            6 months ago

            Also, if you’re worried about logging, you could set up a bulletproof, anon VPS you paid for in cash/crypto from a host who doesn’t KYC. Then, set it as a community node, and then configure Portmaster to only accept your SPN entry node as your own VPS. That way, you can know that when you enter the SPN it’s through a VPS you’ve ensured isn’t tied to your identity, doesn’t log, and is your starting point before being routed through other random locations.

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    6 months ago

    As you may read elsewhere, Mullvad and ProtonVPN are the go-to for many people. But what Linux distro are you running? both of them don’t have an OFFICIAL client for Arch, you can install them from the AUR though but I read the from proton rep in reddit that they don’t recommend these packages as they’re handled by the community.

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    6 months ago

    I used the free version of Proton for a while, but when I decided to start paying I went with Surfshark. They were the best deal at the time and their client works well with the Windows, Android and Linux devices I have used it on. I have encountered some annoying “prove you are human” prompts when using Google Search so I mostly use DuckDuckGo.

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      6 months ago

      requires some setup

      The story of Linux in a few words.

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            6 months ago

            From the one time I tried MacOS in a VM, setup is similar to Windows with somehow even fewer options and stronger 1984 vibes.

            • DAMunzy@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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              6 months ago

              Windows 11 and needing a Microsoft account to install enters chat.

              And yes, I know there is a work-around, which I’ve used, but it requires CLI commands to restart the OOBE/install.

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                6 months ago

                At least you can use Window without an account, on MacOS you can’t even install an app without one I don’t think.

                Just to be clear, I hate both of them, I’m a Linux user.

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                  6 months ago

                  Nope, you must create a user account for Windows. Creating a local (non-MS online account) requires the extra steps.

  • bardmoss@linux.community
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    6 months ago

    The only VPNs which are not owned by marketing companies are Mullvad and Proton. The largest VPNs are owned by Kape Technologies, renamed because their prior company name distributed malware, whose top people are former Israeli military, so I wouldn’t trust them as far as I could throw them. I would never use a free VPN except for Proton, and Proton’s paid VPN has a lot more nodes and features.

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      6 months ago

      I’m a Proton die hard but I hear their Linux VPN client is lacking. I use all of their products but not on Linux.

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        6 months ago

        You don’t really need a client unless you want to do something fancy like port forwarding which they don’t support anyway

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      6 months ago

      Mozilla’s VPN is just reselling Mullvad, so you can support Mozilla and use Mullvad at the same time if you like.

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          6 months ago

          That only benefits the Mozilla Foundation and not the Cooperation who is responsible for developing Firefox. If you want your money to be used for Firefox, then you need to spending it towards the Cooperation AFAIK.

    • 乇ㄥ乇¢ㄒ尺ㄖ@infosec.pub
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      6 months ago

      IVPN doesn’t do any kind of marketing, none… And Windscribe is FOSS too ( too bad it’s US based tho ), another one I can think of is TorGaurd ( proprietary ), they received a court subpoena but they revealed nothing about their users ( they don’t keep logs )…

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    6 months ago

    Mullvad has an open source client. It can also be set up usung OpenVPN too.

    Bear in mind they don’t have Port Forwarding anymore.