I agree, it’s not very good.
I love Fallout and played 3, NV, and 4 avidly. It’s a good adaptation. A little campy, but it feels like something made by people who know and love the source material. And with the goofy moments come some real nasty aspects of the wasteland laid bare with no question as to how nasty it is, even in the first couple episodes.
The Vaults setup was unique enough to feel new, but fit the Vault-Tec MO nicely. 4 felt generic, but I think it was mainly included for people who didn’t play the games so they could get a general vibe.
The subtle nods are nice, with enough items and mechanics from the games peppered through to make it feel like part of the universe. Some are on the nose like Sugarbombs, but I’ve recognized generic NPC armor from the games on extras in the background.
It was also odd but fun to see game mechanics work in real time, like seeing drugs heal a grievous injury
If you want an adaptation of Fallout story it may fall short with the lighter stuff. But if you want an adaptation of a Fallout playthrough I think you’re I for a good time.
I played the games. I think the show’s sets and designs are good, but I can’t get into it. It just feels like sequalitis with no soul.
I’ve finished 3 fallout games but fortunately don’t remember any of it well enough for any of this to mean anything to me so I can just enjoy the show.
Same… but the caveat for me. I remember the gameplay and main story of each game…i can’t for the life of me remember any of the flavor text/ world text… so little details that the series gets wrong will likely not erk me like other shows have in the past.
I’m only a couple episodes in at the moment though… who knows, watching might spark all sorts of memories.
This person has zero IMDB credits. Call me after making literally anything even remotely approaching the quality of anything Bethesda has ever sneezed out.
Does he maybe have some semblance of a point about NCR and New Vegas? Sure, but if that makes it a ‘bad show’ that ‘no one will watch’, please let me point you at Star Wars, which jettisoned its own extremely substantial extended universe to the chagrin of long time fans and is doing fine.
Can’t you just, like, look at it like anime or like Douglas Adams?
Yes, we get multiple iterations of more or less the same story in different mediums. No, they aren’t exactly the same. Is that a problem? Does the Ranma 1/2 TV series have to match the OVH or they’re both shit?
Do I have to choose only the Hitch-Hiker’s Guide books, or the radio series, or the show, or the movie? Am I not allowed to enjoy them all?
Is it really more economically viable to make a living being an entitled and cynical jackass about other people’s work than to go make your own?
Fandomwire wants clicks, clearly.
Weird. I really enjoyed it. Loved the characters, liked the story, and all the little nods to the games and fandom were nice and didn’t feel out of place. Probably one of the better adaptations I’ve seen.
it got better halfway through or so (as a person who never played the games) but really had to just go with the ridiculousness of the world.
I’m glad they kept the ridiculousness. They could have made it super serious and edgy, and I don’t think it would have fit as well.
yeah. once I treated it as more a fantasy show and less a scifi it greatly improved my experience.
Same. Ragebait headline.
Maybe the title was changed after posting, but it’s more reasonable on the actual article
“A bad TV show no one will remember in 3 months…”: Some Fallout Fans are Gatekeeping Pretty Hard after New Vegas Revelations and Retcons Send Them Over the Edge
I’m a franchise loyalist and I am so, so, so past caring about this New Vegas shit. There’s no guarantees that New Vegas isn’t in despair off an external shot. And even if it is, I’m interested in hearing how it goes.
The show was great.
Retconning the only modern Fallout game with a decent story and good writing as opposed to all the garbage they put out.
Never change, Bethesda.
The show is not high art. No one will be winning an Emmy for acting. It certainly doesn’t warrant the high rating on RT. But it’s entertaining, engaging, visually stimulating and a fantastic adaptation of the games.
If you’re expecting a Last of Us calibre deep dive into society and the human condition coping with an apocalypse, you’ll be disappointed. If you’re expecting a fun romp through the wastelands with body parts gratuitously exploding into red mist, then look no farther!
Without having seen the series I’m guessing yours is probably the most accurate descriptor I’ve seen so far.
Whenever it comes to fandoms like this, the camps are always so divided in extremes. And neither camp is usually correct.
I mean, I saw Twisted Metal season 1 and it was not good by means an “actual reviewer” would stand by. But was it enjoyable? Sure. (Probably more so if I was high while watching it.) Will it be remembered? Not by a long shot.
The Fallout TV Show is likely better than TM, but I doubt it will remembered alongside Breaking Bad, The Sopranos or even Futurama for that matter.
Best review I’ve seen so far
It certainly doesn’t warrant the high rating on RT. But it’s entertaining, engaging, visually stimulating and a fantastic adaptation of the games
Which is it? because an entertaining engaging, visually stimulating show which is also a fantastic adaptation of its source material should have a good rating
I’ve basically given up on ratings and threads about ratings because every idiot thinking they sound bright, reduce everything to either “best ever, Jebus herself couldn’t make it better” or “dog shit that will make you pray for cancer to take your disappointment away”
PS: not referring to you (person I’m replying to) when taking about idiots that polarize everything… Referring in general to polarizers (that’s a word, right?)
The Ghoul definitely picked Bloody Mess as one of his perks.
One of us! One of us!
Cold takes from crybabies.
They should have made one more episode to where after she gets out, they explain some of the factions, the monetary system, and where in the Wasteland they are. All in all, I liked it and can’t wait until season 2.
On the Prime Fallout site, they have a bunch of extras and bonus content that explains a lot of the background stuff like that. It’s kind of neat. You should check it out.
Its a great show and Im enjoying it despite the massive, glaring world consistency issues.
Like what the hell happened to the NCR?Or, you know, the lore of all of the games outside of Fallout 3 and 4.
Its painfully clear that Todd is salty that the worst two games in the fallout series are 3 and 4. So he’s erasing the pre bethesda games and the best game(that respects the original lore), New Vegas.
Have you finished the series? Because I don’t think I agree with this at all.
Not one bit.
Edit: to explain further would contain massive spoilers.
I know what they are.
Trick is it directly counteracts the games. In the year the show happens is the same year new vegas happens. This is after the brotherhood was reduced to cowering in a hidden bunker with zero force projection capability.
The show is great, but its Bethesda fallout, not Fallout.
No it isn’t. The show is happening in 2296, 9 years after FO4 (2285). FNV takes place in 2281.
That makes it worse.
The western Brotherhood of Steel, at the start of new Vegas, is reduced to One Chapter holed up in One tiny bunker with no vertibirds, no supplies, no manufacturing. They have to send lone scavengers out in the cover of night just to steal enough food to survive.
The battle of Helios One ended the brotherhood as a major player in any capacity. They threw everything they had at the NCR and lost badly.
And you can’t think of them building back up (even one major chapter), with the help of other Brotherhood chapters, in the fifteen years afterwards?
That’s a failure of your imagination, buddy, not a shortcoming of the show.
So… I keep seeing people say this online.
I assume they’re saying it before they finished watching the whole season. Because they do explain what happened to the NCR and explicitly acknowledge New Vegas in at least two very significant ways.
Getting rid of the NCR is ludicrous and is blatantly just Bethesda diminishing the creations of everyone who isn’t Bethesda.
3 and 4 are the worst stories in the series. Yet Bethesda seems intent on making them the main stories.
I am dreading seeing how they incorporate New Vegas given what they did to the NCR. I would rather that they not even touch it at this point
Yeah, so… no, that’s fanboy stuff. That’s not how massive corporations make their decisions, not how artists make their decisions and, very specifically, now what is actually in the show.
Plus of course what you’re saying is different to the online panic about NV “not being canon”, which Bethesda has now explicitly denied. The NCR very much exists in the show, it’s just been significantly downsized to early Fallout levels. Not because Bethesda is “diminishing the creations of everyone who isn’t Bethesda”, though. If I had to make an educated guess based on how reality actually operates, I’d assume it’s because Lisa Joy and Jonathan Nolan wanted to make a show about a postapocalyptic wasteland and having a democratic government that has been running mostly fine for the past 100 years kinda gets in the way of that.
So yeah, welcome to franchising, where war never changes and neither does the status quo. It’s mostly absurd that people in Fallout are still roaming around in reclaimed pre-war gear and doing the Mad Max schtick five generations into the postapocalypse, but Fallout gotta look like Fallout, so Fallout will look like Fallout until Fallout stops making money, at which point it will not look like anything anymore. Yay capitalism.
Hey, wanna know what they’ll do to New Vegas? They’ll probably do some variation on the plot of New Vegas. Mr. House and the Legion will probably still be around in some form despite it not making a ton of sense in continuity. Just like this season was all about leaving a vault to look for your missing dad, just like Filly just happens to have the same layout and landmarks as Megaton, just like there’s a Dogmeat and just like Vault 33 now needs a water chip and will probably have to send someone outside to look for it. Because it’s recognizable IP and recognizable IP has to be in the show so it can be fueled by recognizable IP.
Lol, bullshit. 94%/88% on RT.
The show is awesome, and has already been greenlit for S02. It would have been so easy to fuck this show up, but they knocked it out of the park. As an avid player of the games, I loved it! This reviewer doesn’t know what they’re talking about.
I think the show is solid, but I did notice at one point that it’s basically a reskin of Westworld and now I can’t unsee it.
I mean, naive girl gets the nature of her world redefined for her and is poised to become a revolutionary fighter? That happens.
A ruthless, cruel cowboy who isn’t a cowboy but plays one for a long time, has god mode on and looks like an actor you know was left in the sun for too long? Surprisingly specific, but yep.
Is actually based on a videogame full of NPCs? In different ways but yeah.
Beloved older actor plays a figure of corporate authority with a secret plan? Getting into stretch territory but I see it.
I still enjoyed it, though. Looks so much better than the trailers, too, and it took me a while to realize it’s because the trailers really had to hide the gore so they looke really cosplay-y. Hard to look cosplay-y with so many chunks flying around.
This is such a high level description that it is a meaningless comparison. The fact that Fallout doesn’t take itself nearly as seriously as Westworld is already a huge difference. Sometimes the implementation is what is valuable, not the idea.
Well… you know, it’s the same people exploring the same ideas through the same archetypes. I think that comes through pretty clearly. All joking about specifics aside, it’s kinda hard to miss once you notice.
At some point we’re gonna get to the synths parts and I’m expecting blow for blow repeated scenes at this point.
Most stories fall into one of a few archetypes at least since the time of the Epic of Gilgamesh.
According to my Steam stats I played the 3rd one for about twenty minutes. The game engine seriously hurt it. The show was worth watching because it had nowhere to go but up.
It’s amazing how much potential the world of Fallout has when not shackled to a terrible engine, isn’t it?
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