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I had two of them!
They also drew about as much current as a hairdryer. (Kidding - it was closer to a desktop PC, though.)
I’m pretty sure the lamp my parents had in the late 90s/early 2000s was the one they moved into the house with in the late 70s, there was none of this fanciness in our house
Well i walked over to the other room to check but mine doesn’t have that bulb/disk
I had one of those in my bedroom all the way until about 2021.
Until 2019 for us damn cats broke it. Now I have a lamp photographer use for a lamp.
Those things have ben around since the 60s
That I did not know.
Well you wouldve had to be there heh. Just shows that style is cyclicle
I’ve still got one, but I converted the bulb to the equivalent of a 100w LED.
Equivalent of 100w LED? That’s uhh… A lot of light.
What lighting technology? A 120W sodium vapor lamp from a streetlight? A 200W inductively driven fluorescent torus? A 1000W incandescent monster?
Of 100W LED. Amount of light 100W LED would emit.
Also that video has soviet osciloscope jumpscare.
I know what you meant. I literally named three non-LED devices that emit as much light as a 100W LED, or “100W LED equivalents”.
Ah. Ok.
Your question didn’t have enough words. Asking “What other kind of light would a 100 watt LED be equivalent to” would have been less ambiguous.
Well, there are only two ways I could have meant it. Of both lighting technologies being referred to here, one is LED from context. Also, no other technology can match 200W fluorescent etc. with 100 W of input power.
But yeah, I do concede that some puzzle-solving is needed if you’re not familiar with the technology.
I don’t think you understand that your comment made it seem like you were the one who misunderstood and didn’t fully read his comment.
It would be the equivalent of 100W LED lighting. Which, when you consider household LEDs typically only emit ~1-2W of light, 100W would be a lot of light.
They probably meant an LED that is equivalent to a 100W incandescent.
I don’t know what LEDs you have, but mine usually emit 8-12W (ceiling lamps)
Yeah, those regularly had 300W halogen bulbs (actually tubes) in them. Reflecting light off the ceiling first is not very efficient.
Girl I was dating in the mid 2000’s was sleeping with one of these lamps in her dorm room. One of those desks on the floor and bed up top bunkbed setups and her pillow fell onto the bulb needless to say the pillow get a really nicely burnt. Luckly it didn’t catch fire
Strangely enough last night my home didn’t burn down either.
Yeah, friend of mine had to rush his onto the balcony like some kind of IKEA branded, badly smoking Olympic torch in a similar situation where a T-shirt got draped on there. Definitely a risk.
I still have one lol
How many bugs are inside it?
🤷♀️
Too afraid to look.
They also made great pretend/play jousting lances, though all the insects that were dead inside of it would get all over the place as you swung those things around, but still, good times (at least until you got caught doing that).
And changing the bulb on one of those that newly burned out was like trying to work with lava.
All the halogen/fluorescent/etc bulbs before LED were super hot if you didn’t let them cool down for a couple minutes.
But really, who under 40 ever waited for them to cool down? Nobody had time for that.
the insects were just the bonus poison/psychic hybrid damage
My sister and I once caught a paper airplane on fire from one of these, got scortchmarks on the couch under it
I miss mine. They were awesome. Just don’t touch the bulb when installing it.
I still use one of these
Same! I read this and thought “Remember? I’m sitting right next to mine.”
Remember? I still have it!
Surprised how many people still do. If it ain’t broke don’t fix it I suppose.
These would be much easier to do with LEDs but somehow they didn’t survive the transition.
Who’s wants upward directional lighting? They were a horrendous design that only lit the room up, not great for reading or crafting.
Your ceilings must be very low. If they’re very close to the ceiling, of course they won’t work well. But regular 8’ ceilings were fine with them.
Many had a dimmer, are you sure yours wasn’t turned way down?
I still have one, it’s in the basement, unused (kept it for use while we renovate that room). We have an LED version in our living room that is the primary light in that room, and it works fine for illuminating everything. I regularly read receipts and paper bills in that room without an issue.
People who want the entire room lit up with fairly soft lighting?
It only lights the ceiling up, you still need additional lighting for anything you want to do. And halogens are not soft lighting either.
Those were designed so the heat wouldn’t get trapped in the lid and the are super bright, so you couldn’t point them down. Replacing it with LED you wouldn’t need the same design considerations, and just replacing it with a led bulb won’t make it work the same.
These were just a shit light altogether, it’s why it didn’t “survive” the change to led. The efficiency is also worse because of their design.
Most upward lighting comes from the floor or lower down the wall, so it actually floods the room. Theres a point to upward lighting, but not at ceiling height and sending it more up.
It’s soft light acter bouncing off the ceiling.
Which is inefficient and terrible design, that’s why it didn’t survive to the new technology.
Direct light and soft light are useful for different purposes. If you’re trying to efficiently light up a room, ceiling light may be useful, but for e.g. photography, you can usually get better results by using a diffuser, and this shape allows reusing the ceiling as the diffuser. Plus nostalgic value.
They sell them at IKEA, with LED bulbs
Just because someone sells something and people buy it, doesn’t mean it’s a great design or there isn’t better options.
Just like essential oils.
Everyone commenting is saying how they need multiple of them, just buy a single better light.
Sure, it’s inefficient. But it’s more cozy. Also, those lights are usually dimmable, giving the halogen lights an even warmer colour temperature. Together with the indirect light, they were great for bedrooms or living rooms, when you don’t want or don’t need harsh ceiling light. Of course, no one would use them, when they’re trying to work on something or read or something like that. Home lighting isn’t always about the most efficient way to light a room.
I for example still prefer indirect light in my living room, most of the time. Sure, it’s LED by now, but it’s still way nicer to let the light bounce off the wall while I’m just chilling. And if I actually need more light, the ceiling lamp still exists…
Or how would you propose to create a cozy, soft and comfortable lighting atmosphere?
Or how would you propose to create a cozy, soft and comfortable lighting atmosphere?
Proper installed lighting? Like codes require in most places? There’s even lux requirements for decades in code. It’s just modern bulbs don’t meet the requirements that old receptacles used, so now people come up with excuses to use portable lighting instead of proper installed lighting.
Maybe time for a reno to use your modern devices correctly.
I will say, that some places do have a severe lack of code implementation and/or enforcement, so maybe this partly the issue. Non code compliant lighting to begin with.
It’s using the ceiling as a diffuser to soften it. Same way that photographers don’t normally point a light directly at a subject but instead use a diffuser like this
https://www.studiobinder.com/blog/what-is-a-light-diffuser-photography/
When I take pictures of my cats, I blast my Emisar DT8’s overdrive mode at the ceiling and it diffuses the light PERFECTLY for sick, sharp cat pics.
PURRFECTLY
Which is a horrible inefficient design and why it didn’t transfer with LEDs.
Shit light gets discontinued, not a surprise. It was also the design of the time, wall sconces are hardly found in new builds anymore. People have moved on to better designs and technology.
I’m guessing you’re getting down voted by all of us that want light to be reflected/diffused off the ceiling, and actively own LED versions of this lamp.
These exist, they make LED versions of this. I have 3 of them because I’m too lazy to crawl into the attic and install better lighting in the ceiling itself.
I too am a fan of pouring money down the drain on inefficient and useless lighting that needs to be 3x the power of other lighting!
The LEDs were to keep with the designs that these lights created with their necessary design, there are better and more efficient ways to achieve the same lighting as these towers.
It’s wild how hard you’re getting raked over the coals here.
You’re not wrong at all.
Your likely have LEDS diffused down through the shade these days.
Unless it’s a traditional style bulb that is leds, those work pretty well in this style of lamp.
It’s like people are ignoring the person who asked why this didn’t transfer to LEDs. Yeah I know what the light was designed for, I literally said it, and then explained why it doesn’t work for LEDs. It was mainly a design to not trap the heat in, if they could do downward facing halogens… this light probably wouldn’t ever exist.
Sure, yeah a led bulb works in it, but you would need a powerful one negating the benefit and it’s also not designed for it. But of course someone will try and make a dime off of it, and some people will eat it up. Or they just think the thing looks nice, even though it’s useless.
Check out the guy with black ceilings.
Popcorn ceilings, for all their downfalls, are incredible at diffusing light pointed straight at them. I have a desk lamp pointed straight at the ceiling for when I want to light up my entire bedroom, but don’t want the effect from the downward facing ceiling nipple. That desk lamp is about 4 feet away from the ceiling but it provides plenty of light for the entire room.
It only lights the ceiling up, you still need additional lighting for anything you want to do. And halogens are not soft lighting either.
I see you’re in full body-contact mode with others on this discussion, and I don’t mean the pile on, but I honestly wanted to ask you a follow-up question to your statement that I quoted.
What you stated is not my experience. My house has light color painted ceilings, with no popcorn, so when the light goes up it bounces off the ceiling and gives a warm glow to the whole area.
I don’t see it as wasting energy, just diffusing the light in all directions, without having to have an explicit device in between the light and you to do the diffusing (like what they have in the film industry).
And I say this regardless if it was using halogen bulbs or LEDs. With halogens since the light diffuses it does affect a somewhat soft glow to the whole room. Personally I like LEDs better where you can change the warmth level of the light that it emits, but still, the act of the photons bouncing off of light color ceiling and diffusing does give that warmish glow.
I understand if you don’t want to respond, as you spent a lot of time in this conversation already, but I honestly would like to hear your opinions about my thoughts that I just elaborated on.
Lol, this one doesn’t understand how light reflects off of objects
I checked your comment history to see if you’re a troll. Nope, just an incredibly smug, obnoxious person who seems to think your opinions are facts, and everyone else is an idiot for not seeing things your way. Easy choice to block!
I have no issue amending my knowledge when giving unequivocal facts, but if you’re giving an opinion, and I give facts and knowledge back and you don’t want to address it. Sure I guess that makes me obnoxious? For wanting evidence? Sure. Sometimes it’s unwarranted, I’ll give that, and sure I feed the trolls as well, but there’s nothing wrong with having an opinion and not changing it until given facts.
I’ll yell back at the trolls, so fuck me I guess for having some fun?
“unequivocal”
exCUSE me? I explained how 9000 lumens into the eyeball is the ideal lighting and if you disagree, you’re just fooling yourself. It’s not my fault that my superior knowledge about the inefficiency of other lighting is seen as close minded.
I have no issue amending my knowledge when giving unequivocal facts.
We can see your comment history…
sure I feed the trolls as well
By being rude & and all over the place? Doesn’t seem to be best approach. It seems to me as if, you just like drama & negative attention.
Wait, I maybe wrong but doesn’t that make you the troll? Blocked.The problem being, you don’t know who is a troll until you’ve actually engaged with them so yeah you kinda need to engage with someone before being able to tell if they are a troll or not.
And yes my comment history is open, and I don’t delete and stand by what I say, most other people delete their shit and hide.
If you go back, you would see any discussion over the last few days hasn’t provided any sources back. Sure I’m taking it a little far, but yes… I need to amend my opinion without sources… but others don’t, even with sources… sure… makes total sense.
If someone gives attitude what’s wrong with giving it back? You don’t always get context when they delete or have their comments removed.
Y’all it’s a fuckin lamp
Easy choice to block!
FYI, when you block somebody here on Lemmy they can still see your posts/comments and reply to them, but you just can’t see their posts/comments?
I do, this is a great lighting technique for someone who does not want direct lighting
I have issues with light sensitivity. These were a godsend for bright but indirect lighting.
