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I’d settle for a long and healthy lifespan and a painless passing for all beings.
By limiting a dog’s lifespan, you force dog-lovers to purchase a new dog after a few years.
Any company innovating a long-lived dog would saturate the market quickly and go out of business for lack of demand.
The only way around this is a support contract or a subscription model.
You could lease a dog for an annual fee. The benefit is obvious to anyone with a bit of business sense: After only a year or so your customers will have bonded with “their” dog and won’t want to part with it anymore.
So you can offer the first year at a heavily discounted rate and then jack up the subscription price as much as you want, the market will bear it.And if they fail to pay their rates, just send in Kristi Noem. She’ll do what needs to be done.
Oddly enough, they’ve recently developed something that would allow your dog to live longer. That’s why they’ve moved on to putting AI in everything.
2200 news: First military Corvette fleet in orbit around sol. Means to reach alpha centauri in a few months discovered. Dog and cat lifespan increased tenfold. Human lifespan increased tenfold
(RIP)
Humans starting with the Venerable trait is OP.
Somewhat related, there is a vaccine for cats in the works meant to prevent feline chronic kidney disease. If successful it could massively increase the lifespan of domestic cats.
If successful it could
Wanna bet what capitalism is going to say about that?
This makes me very happy, thank you for sharing!
That would be amazing. They can already live so long. To think, you might be able to have a cat with you for most of your adult life.
That killed my childhood cat. Would be awesome for future kids to not experience what I did.
Kind of seems like losing a pet is an important part of growing up tbh.
What a heartless thing to say.
Accepting death is an important oart of growing up, ckd killed my beautiful ginger boy a month ago. No animal deserves to die just to be a goddamn teachable moment
Kind of doesn’t.
I dunno accepting death as an inevitability seems important since since we otherwise struggle hard to ignore it in western culture and by extension can create a lot of suffering.
A pet doesn’t need to die for that. If you look around… Death is everywhere!
[Starts singing and dancing a musical number down the street]
One of my family cats is currently at the end of her life due to kidney disease. It really sucks, glad they’re doing something about it. Now if only they could do the same for dogs.
Unpopular opinion: There are already way too many domestic cats and they are responsible for the extinction of various species, mostly birds. They are amongst the most problematic invasive species in the world. Its probably not a good idea to increase their lifespan…
In your country perhaps, cats aren’t a problem everywhere. Even the Royal Society for the Protection of Birds maintain that cats are not a major cause of bird decline (in Britain).
I’m not only talking about my country, but you’re right: The location matters. It’s a fact that cats have a noticeable impact on global biodiversity. There is an interesting article on the matter here: https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-023-42766-6
Forgive me if I don’t treat Britain as an expert on biodiversity, given their history of hunting most of their wildlife to extinction.
Well the RSPB shockingly are quite against hunting animals, who’d have thought it? And careful throwing stones from your glass house, didn’t your lot hunt the bison almost to extinction the moment they landed?
You can get them fixed.
Popular opinion: I love cats
I’m literally having my 19 year old cat put down tomorrow due to kidney disease and I very much wish for him to feel young and healthy again. It sucks.
Sorry for your loss mate
Science is just the method by which technological advancements are achieved, it doesn’t decide the priorities. That privilege falls to capital, and by extension, capitalists.
I appreciate you are setting up a sort of platonic ideal of what science is but I think its important to deal with the real people and processes that science is performed by and we would be doing ourselves a disservice if we fail to acknowledge how those people and processes have often worked hand in hand with capitalist and colonial projects. We need to be introspective about how those choices have influenced the science (and the methods!) that’s been done. We, as scientists, engineers and science appreciators need to do this work so we can make different and better choices.
First and foremost, priorities are set by reality.
Extending a dog’s lifespan by 60 years would be a very high demand product and could be sold for much more than what smartphones cost. If it was feasible, it would have already been done.
Flying would be a very high demand service and could be sold for much more than what a train ticket costs. If it was feasible, it would have already been done.
arent they working on longevity though?
They sure are!
But humans (there is a dig line too actually) are complicated, furst treatments are out aleeady (works not very well, on only on 2 of the 7 base topics IIRC).
Next 10 years will be interesting.
last i heard of them there was this australian dude from harvard applying it successfully to rats. where can i read more about these current ones that were released?
There is a drug called loyal in testing, someone linked to it here as well.
https://kbin.run/m/science_memes@mander.xyz/t/388022/-/comment/3632342
There are lots of biotech startups working on potentially working treatments (not like the billionaire founded ones sadly, where they mostly aim for some silver bullet treatment.), if you want a simplified recurring email information (it’s not the simplest but it gets information through IMO, I’m not a biologist for example) subscribe to fight agings newsletter; https://www.fightaging.org/newsletter/
Fightaging.org also has a lot of information.
Cheers!
Some scientists actually are working on this. I haven’t read this article in particular, but it was near the top of a search.
tl;dr is that there may soon be a drug available which can extend the lives of large dogs.
Amazing! I can’t wait until that’s reality.
“That’ll be $293,763.”
But that means more cancer doesn’t it? :(
Sorry, we are busy with real problems like climate change mitigation.
This comment would be more effective without the .de domain.
I’m not familiar with specific instances. Why does that matter?
He’s german and germany has been increasing fossil fuel use while dismantling nuclear powerplants.
Nobody in Germany wants fossil fuels. It’s just that the governments in the past 15 years fucked up big time and didn’t invest in renewables enough while still holding on the plans to shut down all nuclear power plants. So they shut them down before the renewables were ready and now we are fucked. Btw although they should just have the existing power plants leave running (especially because they probably were the safest in all of Europe is not the whole world) nuclear energy is NOT the answer. If you think it is then you either were manipulated by all the nuclear power shills on Lemmy or you are a shill yourself.
I’m very sorry for supporting a clean safe energy source uwu won’t happen again sir uwu
Lets not condemn people for the wrongs of their government. Otherwise we would have to exterminate the English, which is totally unacceptable you may get someone who is Cornish, Welsh, or Scottish.
I don’t consider them English. It feels rude to.
Neither do I, doesnt mean there arent any who live in the damned Anglo-Saxon lands.
sacrifices must unfortunately be made.
Hopefully you’re aware that people don’t necessarily have the same views as their state.
The euros act like that about americans so I’ll act like that about them.
Are you saying all Europeans stereotype all Americans?
It’s stereotypes all the way down.
Wrong. Fossil energy sources have been receding, especially since nuclear power has been phased out. Check it out:
https://energy-charts.info/charts/energy/chart.htm?l=en&c=DE&year=2024
Also my comment was not about energy production but (like OP’s post) about science.
What if, just hear me out, here, what if the smartphone makes your dog and cat live longer?
i dunno, 60 years would put me past being able to get a dog as i wouldn’t want to die and leave them.
I agree. As much as I hate losing a dog, they would probably be far more hurt by losing me.
Nah, they’d move on and live a full life after you’re gone. They’d probably even add new songs to their repertoire.
Considering they acted like their prayers had been answered and I was resurrected when I came back from being gone a couple of weeks last month, I don’t know about that.
Walking on sunshine sucks noodles
As long as people are more willing to pay large amounts of money to get a new smartphone as a status symbol than they pay to extend their pets lives, that’s not going to happen.
Bruh if I could extend my dog’s life by my smartphone’s lifespan for the same cost I of course would. Everybody I know would
If there was a choice to make, I would give up smartphones entirely without a thought
Speak for yourself, I want a better phone as in with removable battery, sd card, headphone jack.
The difference is, science is not making phones better for the consumer, but for the maker.
The science on most of this stuff is done already. Most of your requests could be implemented tomorrow. No problem.
This is not a science problem. This is a capitalism problem.
Sorry if I didn’t make that clear.
Yes I fully agree!!
Well, batteries can still get a lot better. But yea, what’s listed isn’t technical limitations.
I have a galaxy S5 that you’d be interested in then. Science already solved it and even gave it water resistance to boot.
My phone is almost 10 years old, and it doesn’t do much, but you know it does enough.
What you actually need is a time machine.
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If you’re an Elden Ring player, that is a dog!
It’s infinitely better
No leash required.
It’s still better.- less noise
- less drool
- more serenity
- better ecosystem
- more tasty ?
Oh, and did I mention, less noise !
Instead of making phones thin enough to shave with, just give me a battery that could last a few days.
This has to do with all the services running in the background. Modern phones are actually extremely efficient, providing you’re not connected to push notification services and don’t have apps running in the background all the time.
Problem is that Google and Apple loooove user data and so it’s very hard to do this, impossible in the case of iOS. I have a fully google-less tablet and that things lasts many days on 1 charge.
Also scrolling on TikTok is basically the most intensive thing you can do on your phone unless you play 3d games. Lots of data being transferred, lots of effects, you KNOW it’s sucking as much data as it can out of your phone too.
What OS are you running on your tablet? I am running Graphene on my phone, and the battery isn’t bad, but I bought a Pixel specifically for the purpose and don’t have a baseline to compare it to.
and headphone jack and sd card and more buttons. flat screen
And a full-size keyboard, a trackpad, several USB slots, HDMI output…
