The president's mood has been buoyed by recent polling and his visits to battleground states, as Trump sits in a Manhattan courtroom for his criminal trial.
There’s only one way to ensure he doesn’t ruin our lives and our country. Only one way to secure our democracy and safety, and I’ll leave that to your imagination. I will say no more.
I think the implication is he’ll be in prison. Setting aside whether that’s a safe bet or not, I can totally see an 80-something trump making campaign ads from a prison cell. He won’t really have anything better to do at that point.
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Typically, when someone asserts “both sides are the same,” it’s often from a Democratic-leaning conservative perspective, seeking to discredit critics of the Democratic Party. While acknowledging similarities between these 2 capitalist parties, there are significant distinctions. Encouraging a broader range of viewpoints would be more beneficial. Instead of just criticizing, inviting dissenting voices to participate actively and propose solutions would be more productive. Shifting away from first-past-the-post voting enables more accurate representation and minimizes the spoiler effect, a reform already implemented at the state level in Maine and Alaska. However, Republicans are opposing alternative electoral systems. Rather than continuing to use voting methods favored by Republicans, embracing multiple political parties ensures wider representation and engagement, benefiting citizens and the Democratic Party alike. Enhanced voter participation leads to more democratic outcomes. So, what prevents Democratic-led states from prioritizing electoral reform? Let’s take action and advocate for change within our states to ensure better representation and competition among candidates, striving for genuine representation without excuses.
Most every campaign cycle, it seems, presidential candidates and political pundits claim this election is the most important one ever. It’s become something of a cliché in American politics. This time, however, they just might be correct. Rarely before in modern times has the divide between the two parties been as stark.
I mean, this is the first where a genuine threat of fascism was on the table. I don’t see things getting pulled back any time soon. I think the orange criminal made too many bad behaviors ok and there’s no going back. We’re gonna crumble, the only question is how soon.
Don’t get me wrong, I agree with you that things are in a dire state, and this might genuinely be the most important election in history. But I don’t see it ever getting better - as it stands right now, the Republican party will only continue getting crazier and more extreme, until there are no more elections. The system is fundamentally broken, and there needs to be some fundamental fix to off this wild ride.
Ranked Choice Voting with more political parties could be one such fix. It would allow for better representation on both sides (actual leftists on the left, and people on the right who aren’t quite as despicable as is currently the case).
But I don’t see it ever getting better - as it stands right now, the Republican party will only continue getting crazier and more extreme, until there are no more elections.
Them continually getting stomped in elections until they don’t hold any meaningful power anymore would make them eventually have to moderate. I don’t know that that’s what will happen, as we seem to be stuck in the American cycle of dismay with the ruling party turning into support for the out-of-power party no matter how terrible the out-of-power party is.
But what I think it would look like is like what happened to Democrats trying to grab the Presidency during the Reagan era. They got stomped enough times in a row nationally that they basically had to change their party platform to appeal to Reagan voters.
But what’s the likelihood of that happening? The Republican voter base lives in an alternative world, with alternative news and alternative media - and they are working hard on perpetuating that through indoctrination, both in the education system and through religion.
There have been so many points over the last couple of years where no rational person could keep supporting them, yet their base has grown or stayed the same. Their last president literally attempted a coup, yet there’s a good chance he’ll be re-elected. And even if he’s not, and he dies in the next couple of years - his fascist movement will not end with him.
The next election being local and State, not just President. I want us to carry the momentum and really start upping the pressure and pushing the candidates we need. Together.
If we can just get through this election then we can start worrying about the next election.
That’s what they said last time.
Time to vote local in 2025!
If Biden wins, we’ll never have to worry about either trump or Biden running again.
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Trump will never stop running again. Whether he wins or not
There’s only one way to ensure he doesn’t ruin our lives and our country. Only one way to secure our democracy and safety, and I’ll leave that to your imagination. I will say no more.
The rapture comes and Trump is included since he’s God gift to democracy?
Yeah, 2028 will see a new fascist running against an even more rightward corporate neoliberal.
Trump running for POTUS 2028…
And if Trump wins, we’ll never have to worry about anyone ever running again.
But that’ll be the least of our problems
Are you sure we won’t have to worry about Trump running again? Because I am absolutely not.
I think the implication is he’ll be in prison. Setting aside whether that’s a safe bet or not, I can totally see an 80-something trump making campaign ads from a prison cell. He won’t really have anything better to do at that point.
Edit: typo
Even if he isn’t in prison or dead by then his cognitive decline will be too much for even the most addled magas to ignore.
If we’re lucky, heart disease will take care of the issue by then.
Also drywall can only sustain so much ketchup
The problems and divisions that those two men represent aren’t going to go away when they do.
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Rofl what a fucking loser. You hear Biden did something bad and jump to accusations of, “they’re the same”.
You’re pathetic and your reading comprehension must be that of a child’s if you think you’ve brought a valid point to this discussion.
Again, fucking pathetic. Do better.
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Weird. I didn’t hear any specific allegation.
That makes it EVEN DUMBER for you to say they’re just the same. How are you this stupid?
Sarcasm font:
https://codepen.io/kevintage83/full/GRZGJpY
Using something like that to further strawman a point does not make the point valid.
I’m saying you entirely missed the point that their comment was sarcastic. That’s what the sarcasm font means.
Thanks for reminding me to update my will. This might be useful.
I didn’t say that. I didn’t say they’re the same, I don’t think they’re the same. Go put words in someone else’s mouth.
Does anybody know which election wasn’t “the most important election in history”?
Obama 2012. Sure Romney would’ve sucked ass but he probably would’ve just fumbled the whole thing comically instead of actively undoing democracy.
Nah, that one also was the most important one:
https://www.politico.com/story/2012/03/the-most-important-presidential-election-ever-074188
Good thing Hillary beat Trump in 2016 or Democracy would have already ended.
You nearly got a coup, so I guess thanks Hillary for saving the democracy and the US people from the communist Bernie. /s
I mean, this is the first where a genuine threat of fascism was on the table. I don’t see things getting pulled back any time soon. I think the orange criminal made too many bad behaviors ok and there’s no going back. We’re gonna crumble, the only question is how soon.
Don’t get me wrong, I agree with you that things are in a dire state, and this might genuinely be the most important election in history. But I don’t see it ever getting better - as it stands right now, the Republican party will only continue getting crazier and more extreme, until there are no more elections. The system is fundamentally broken, and there needs to be some fundamental fix to off this wild ride.
Ranked Choice Voting with more political parties could be one such fix. It would allow for better representation on both sides (actual leftists on the left, and people on the right who aren’t quite as despicable as is currently the case).
Them continually getting stomped in elections until they don’t hold any meaningful power anymore would make them eventually have to moderate. I don’t know that that’s what will happen, as we seem to be stuck in the American cycle of dismay with the ruling party turning into support for the out-of-power party no matter how terrible the out-of-power party is.
But what I think it would look like is like what happened to Democrats trying to grab the Presidency during the Reagan era. They got stomped enough times in a row nationally that they basically had to change their party platform to appeal to Reagan voters.
But what’s the likelihood of that happening? The Republican voter base lives in an alternative world, with alternative news and alternative media - and they are working hard on perpetuating that through indoctrination, both in the education system and through religion.
There have been so many points over the last couple of years where no rational person could keep supporting them, yet their base has grown or stayed the same. Their last president literally attempted a coup, yet there’s a good chance he’ll be re-elected. And even if he’s not, and he dies in the next couple of years - his fascist movement will not end with him.
The next election being local and State, not just President. I want us to carry the momentum and really start upping the pressure and pushing the candidates we need. Together.