This is quite exciting in that it removes plastic waste. I see no reason why different companies can’t make different shape ones to maintain their lock-in. I expect a knock-off market to pop-up, but that exists with plastic pods too. It’s a step in the right direction at least.

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        It’s actually pretty good, don’t own a machine but have tried it a couple times. It’s also comparable in cost to normal capsules.

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          That’s really good. One of the criticisms I always see about capsules is the taste and it seems the Swiss managed to overcome it.

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    All coffee pods are garbage.

    Especially espresso pods. There’s a place around here that has a 20,000 dollar espresso machine, that serves over-extracted espresso because the owner felt pods were easier or something.

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      Is it actually a cafe or just part of another establishment? What kind of cafe has a pod espresso machine? I would never go there.

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        It’s a restaurant run by an Italian. Not even Italian American, but a first generation immigrant.

        It’s not a pod espresso machine, perfectly capable of making great espresso if he had a grinder. But instead they use pods of pre-ground coffee that just lets the water shoot through, giving like 4:1 brew ratio.

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    I just use the resuable pods. Can throw any coffee grounds in them, dump them in the compost when done, rise, and use again. Have used these for at least 5 years.

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      The biggest area this will be a win in is offices. Areas where groups of different people with different tastes gather and can pick a coffee that’s better suited to their taste. Having reusable k pods is nice, but when people don’t frequently work in there, or don’t realize a keurig is available they might not have one. Although I V60 everyday so this has no real personal impact.

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        True. In my office, they provided a Keurig but you had to bring your own pods. I’d just fill up 2 or 3 of my reusable ones and bring those with me, but your point is definitely valid (especially for offices that provide coffee pods).

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        Areas where groups of different people with different tastes gather and can pick a coffee that’s better suited to their taste.

        Also places where people have different concepts of cleanliness

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          Flashbacks of the mold infested coffee machine in my first office that just stood there for half a year with the old grounds still inside. Everyone ignored it and made coffee downstairs where someone else had to clean it 🤢

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            That’s exactly what happened at my office. The moldy coffee pot stayed there for about a year before someone threw the whole thing away.

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      This might be a really stupid question, but if you’re going to use reusable pods, why not just… Use a classic Mr. Coffee-style coffee maker that has been around for decades?

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        Because Jill in accounting has no clue how to make coffee, yet always gets to the coffee pot first.

        This see-through abomination was the final straw before I switched to using the office keurig.

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          That’s some sparkling coffee if I’ve ever seen it lmao, did they throw out 3 pots first before using the same grounds for that pot?

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        I’ve got two: One Keurig which was a gift and an off-brand single-cup coffee maker that uses pods. I’m the only coffee drinker in the house, so one cup at a time is about right (and uses less energy than keeping a carafe warm all morning).

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        I used to love my coffee maker (One of the ones with the thermos built in as the carafe) but my daughter wanted a Keurig. I was hesitant at first but I really like them now that I’m used to it.

        We use reusable pods so making coffee is as cheap as before, and there’s little wasted coffee that sat too long. If I want coffee I get one without worrying if my daughter might want one later, and visa versa. It’s always fresh and never has to sit. And since we both don’t really have regular schedules this way makes it easier than planning how much to make. It also works just as well if one of us wants tea or hot chocolate instead.

        If you are on a fixed schedule and always drink the exact same amount of coffee then it’s not as big of a deal though. The only real downside is if you have friends over then sometimes being able to brew a pot is less of a hassle than individually making multiple cups at the same time, but in our case that doesn’t happen often enough to keep the old coffee maker out.

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        Cause a k cup is pretty convenient if you just want a cup and don’t want to clean the pot regularly. The main drawback is the actual leftover k cup, if it was made out of some thing that would decompose it would be a lot better for the environment. Not saying that the Mr. Coffee isn’t cheaper, but I’m not paying for the coffee, so convenience ranks higher on most priority lists.

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      So that’s just using a normal coffeemaker basically - putting ground coffee in a filter.

      I just use a normal coffeemaker, with good coffee. Keurigs are a scam IMO. It’s really not hard to learn how much water to pour in and coffee scoops to put into the filter to make a small pot of coffee. Cone filter style is better than the basket style for that and for taste

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        Lol, basically. But it lets me fill up the pods and use it in either my single-cup coffee maker or take it to the office and put it into the Keurig there.

        I guess there’s the benefit that it doesn’t require a disposable paper filter, though.

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        When you say “normal coffee maker“ are you just referring to a drip/pot? Because honestly, Keurigs take up less space and require less work so if you’re going to do the drip coffee route, then you may as well just do Keurig (sustainably). The results are basically the same.

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    That has always been my issue with the K cup. It is recyclable and isn’t biodegradable.

    I want a pod I can throw in the mulch.

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      Ah finally a sane person. Why is normal coffee no longer an option? It doesn’t even take any longer unless you grind it by hand.
      And it’s so much better.

  • Would like to see this for more than just coffee. Although, the knock off Keurig I have came with a filter cup thing that acts like a reusable pod, so I don’t really need the single serve plastic cup pods anyway. I can just put tea, coffee, hot cocoa, etc in that mesh cup and then clean it afterward.

    Do official Keurigs not have that?

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    Make it sustainable in pod form specifically. Pour over, drip, French/aeropress seem pretty sustainable. Especially of you use a mesh filter.

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      Everything in context though. Even if you use a paper filter for coffee every day, the overall paper usage in a year is like the equivalent of what, maybe 2-3 print NYTimes Sunday editions?

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    Yes! We can finally buy our way out of unnecessary waste, and ultimately climate change, with this new thing that keeps us buying. Just gotta buy the ecological things and everything will be good.

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      I hear you and ultimately we all have our own versions of utopia. But it doesn’t stop us celebrating small steps in the right direction just because we’re not at our destination.

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      Or we could stop putting the onus on consumers and demand manufacturers/producers actually do the right thing. Even Keurig said they’re still making the plastic pods. The actual answer is regulation.

      We need to stop excusing the “it’s too expensive to be green” bullshit. If it’s too expensive not to poison the planet then it’s not economically feasible.

      It’s like saying “it’s too expensive to not put poison in our food”, then you shouldn’t be making food.

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        They’re very poor brewers, but most people like that sort of grimy mass market coffee flavor. Or just want caffeine and feel weird about taking tablets.

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            Nope, it is regular coffee grounds, but usually they’re using terrible beans. You can actually get nice third wave pods, but there’s only so much better beans can do if your brewer isn’t doing its job well.

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            Sort of. You want an even extraction most of all, and while their grinders are probably pretty good, the water coming in doesn’t saturate the grounds evenly and isn’t a consistent temperature.

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      I think I’ve only seen these in France, which is crazy because it’s such a simple and elegant solution to this “problem”.

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        Senseo is everywhere in the EU. Personally, I rank it below homemade filter coffee though.

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        Basically, a single dose of coffee, wrapped, and sealed in traditional coffee filter material, which is inserted into the machine,can be thrown in to the compost.

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      3rd party Senseo pads are a godsend; good easy fast coffee with a paper filtered coffee pad that just decomposes. I’m sad that it didn’t work out over Keurig.

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    “Sustainable”

    Coffee can, single piece of packaging for months on end.

    Vs.

    K-cups, paper, dyes, increased packaging volumes, increased energy in production, increased raw materials, 6 month shelf life = increased trips to the store to purchase more. Sustainable /s

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        I mean, it’s a plant. You can grow it, and plenty of it is grown. It is objectively more sustainable than, say, coal or helium.

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          How does the coffee get from where it’s grown and into the can? Where does the space to grow it come from?

          Also, what are you talking about? Helium’s uses are largely medical, which is pretty far up there on the list of things we can’t do without.

          Also, so what? These new coffee pods are also more sustainable than both helium and coal when you use whatever definition of sustainability you’re using

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              Me: no coffee is environmentally sustainable or a necessity

              You: damn they must be shilling for big coffee

              Also you realise the fediverse isn’t large enough to justify marketing on, right?

              My highest rated comment is literally condoning videogame piracy. Did you think that accusation through at all? I’m honestly baffled.

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            Huh? Your response doesn’t make sense. Were you intentionally ignoring the point of the op: coffee is more sustainable than non-renewable resources?

            That’s like saying sunshine is free and then somebody trying to argue against that point but criticizing the price of sunscreen …

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              Yes because it doesn’t make any sense. Not only is the coffee industry not really all that sustainable, it’s completely meaningless to compare two types of resource in entirely different categories.

              It doesn’t matter how “unsustainable” a medically necessary resource like helium is in comparison to literally any amount of environmental or social damage caused by the persuit of a luxury good.

              Also, as a rebuttal to a rebuttal to the idea that canned coffee is still better it doesn’t make any sense, because the logic that “coal isn’t sustainable” could justify literally any amount of ecological damage in the coffee supply chain, thereby justifying the pods. You could chop down and burn a tree for every sack of coffee you fill, for fun, and it still probably wouldn’t be as unsustainable as coal.

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                  “coal exists, so coffee is sustainable, but not coffee in pod form” is legitimately one of the dumbest things I’ve read on this site, so I’m just surprised you’re hitching your wagon to that post

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    I was surprised to learn that the store brand k-cups around here are already fully compostable. It’s just a biodegradable plastic ring with half a sphere of coffee filter on the bottom and a paper disc on top.

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    I solved this problem by not drinking coffee. I know, it’s blasphemy I don’t need daily caffeine to function.

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      Never had coffee in my entire life and feel like I’m the least tired person of my social circle. Caffeine is definitely not a must. It only becomes one once you consume it regularly.