The former president made multiple chilling warnings during an interview with Time magazine.
Donald Trump hasn’t quite let go of the possibility of utilizing mob violence if he loses the next election.
In a sprawling interview for Time magazine, Trump hinted that leveraging political violence to achieve his end goals was still on the table.
“If we don’t win, you know, it depends,” he told Time. “It always depends on the fairness of the election.”
And from Trump’s perspective, that’s winning rhetoric. According to him, his incendiary comments supporting a mob mentality, his early warnings of forthcoming abuses of power, and his threats to be a dictator on “day one” are only inching him closer to the White House. “I think a lot of people like it,” Trump told Time.
So he is threatening to go full Mussolini then?
Hopefully, he gets the full Mussolini treatment. They will have to find an Exxon station since Esso changed its name in the 70s.
Well what’s important is that Mussolini eventually became a good fascist. I just wish he’d done it faster
I saw your comment and my thought process went: “What?! Good fascist? The only good fascist is…is…oh. Ohhhhhh!”
Skip straight to the head-kicking.
Always has been
More and more
These morons should be greeted by the National Guard
How many members of the National Guard are already MAGA Chuds?
You’re right, probably too many
Specifically flying elements of The Maryland Air National Guard’s 175th wing based at Warfield Air National Guard Base.
Agreed
The difference is, if rioters try to break into the Capitol building THIS time, they’re not going to get bottled water and a pat on the ass. The Capitol police are going to be loaded for bear.
No fucking quarter
Please try it.
Your guy isn’t in the white house this time.
Oh it’ll absolutely happen. We all know this already. And he won’t be held accountable for that either.
It’s easy to complain about trump or pontificate about January 6 and its probable replay.
Ammunition is going to get more and more expensive from here on out, go buy some bullets you think you’ll need before they’re prohibitively expensive or unavailable.
Been saying the same. The fascists are here, now. Worst case, I bought a bunch of ammo while it was cheap.
The fascists have helicopters and jets… Hope you got some big bullets
In a hypothetical civil war peoole wouldn’t shoot the helicopters and jets. They’d blend with the regular population in to hide from them. They’d shoot the pilot when the pilot is out buying groceries or filling their car with gas … or kidnap their loved ones.
A civil war would be horrifying. There would be no uniforms, no front lines, and no rules of war. Both sides would go after the other’s friends and family when they can’t find or attack their enemy directly.
Pretty much this. We already had a second Civil War, sorta, in the Coal Wars, and it pretty much shows how BAD it can get. Now imagine how much worse a guerilla war would be in the age where anyone can find information on pretty much anyone else with the use of a few very basic tools. They don’t need to know your schedule, just where you work. They don’t need to know who your kids are, just where they go to school. They don’t need to know how many people are in your house, just where it is - all publicly available information (or at least easily extrapolated from it).
Don’t interrupt your enemy when they’re making a mistake.
Careful, that was also Hillary’s strategy.
If that happens, I don’t think the turnout will be anywhere near the same as it was before.
Trump primary turnout eclipsed his 2016 run. Conservatives are at least as hyped in 2024 as they were in 2020. Meanwhile, Liberals are trying to decide whether they need to send more bombs to kill Palestinians or start dropping shells on Columbia instead.
Looking really grim.
You mean purported leftist voters are going to elect Trump and end democracy bc they’re angry about Gaza?
Unfortunately it seems like that is an active sentiment, at least with a vocal minority. Intentional disengagement because they don’t like the choices they have. They would rather Trump contribute to the death of Palestinians, Ukrainians, and Americans rather than vote for the guy who contributed to the death of Palestinians.
To top it off, it’s coming largely from a trans inclusive instance, heightening the chances of putting a right wing nutjob in power right as there is an ongoing anti-trans culture war. It’s like they’re more brainwashed than the Log Cabin Republicans.
I think leftist voters are getting purged from rolls across the country and won’t have a say in the matter either way.
But voter caging, disenfranchisement, and other ratfvckery will amount to a Trump win in the same way it amounted to a Bush win in 2000 and a Nixon win in 1968.
These protests will become the excuse Democrats use to further justify purging leftist voters from their ranks, in the same way they used it to purge Greens in 2000 and Socialists in 1968. And it will result in more loses as the country marches further and further into the grip of fascist state policy.
Liberals? You think it is solely the democratic party doing this or are you saying this is what voters want? I’m confused
Same he has only lost people nothing gained. I do not think this election will be that close but that’s just me, a person from a swing state who watches neighbors remove their pro Trump shit.
It’ll only have a positive outcome if we all vote like our lives depend on it
And for a lot of us it literally does
At least if he does lose, there will hopefully be a riot squad waiting at the capital in case his threat comes true. It’s what I’d do just in case he loses. In fact, it’d be the first thing I do! At the very least, if they don’t come immediately within the first week after the election, just have them on standby just in case they eventually show up, ready to perform treason.
He OBVIOUSLY learned his lesson Last Time!
Someone go kick Susan Collins in the butt
Bring it on, motherfuckers.
If the FEC had any fucking teeth they’d jail and disqualify him for that statement alone.
They have teeth. But half of the people who decide whether or not they pursue charges against someone are republican appointees.
So, you know… teeth, but corrupted leadership.
They’re the same picture
I don’t really disagree in present circumstances.
But I feel it’s necessary to characterize it correctly. Characterizing the FEC as a whole to be deficient when it’s a few bad actors temporarily at the head of the FEC could be used as justification by other bad actors or well-intentioned but misled people to undermine the FEC - which would make it deficient should the leadership issues be corrected.Sort of the game that conservatives play with government services. Cut the funding until the service is flagging, then use that as justification to either further cut the budget or reduce the scope of the service until the service is no longer a real government service.
Can’t let ourselves buy into that.Yes and no. I can’t speak to the particulars of this situation but differences in means matter even if they currently produce the same outcome. A toothless dog and a dog in a muzzle are different in important ways.
That’s a great and succinct way to describe that.
January 6th was a failed coup attempt.
How is saying you’ll retry your failed coup attempt if you don’t get your way something were allowing a presidential candidate to do?
Because “not trying to overthrow the government due to losing an election” isn’t listed in the Constitution as a requirement to be elected. One would think that’s a pretty major oversight.
Except it literally is explicitly written into the constitution. 14th Amendment, Section 3.
No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any State, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any State, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. But Congress may, by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability.
The major oversight is our massively and blatantly corrupt Supreme Court.
It is but the Senate failed to do their job as usual and enforce it, thanks Mitch
Because he “tells it like it is” or something. Idk. The kind of people still falling for his grift are too shameless to ever admit that they ever fell for his grift, so they’re doubling down, succumbing to the sunk cost fallacy. They just stay in their echo chambers and saturate their awareness with weird culture war shit and then never hear about what’s actually happening. Half of them probably don’t even know that their guy is a defendant in criminal court this week. Willfully ignorant.
No I’m fine with uneducated masses eating it up.
I’m not okay with judges pulling out their dentures to slobber on trumps balls over matters that threaten the whole country instead of figuratively castrating him the moment he says shit like this.
Agreed. But conservatives have learned over the past 10-20 years that they can more or less just do whatever they want without consequence because 1/3 of the people will fight to the death for whatever they do or say, 1/3 is completely unaware and uninterested in politics and current events, and the final 1/3 is people like us who want consequences but we’re too busy to do anything ourselves because survival is hard enough these days. There are a hundred things worthy of outrage and organized demonstration too, so which cause do we dedicate our summer to trying to fix? The right has an easier time because they just say “things used to be better” and then have one event where people complain about change. Pretty much everybody can identify with being pissed off that something used to be better until they changed it, and for some reason that’s strong enough to get some pretty average people to sit at the table with Nazis. There’s much more nuance and thoughtfulness on the left, so it’s much harder to get unity.
Because conservatives can grow and maintain a reliable base to keep them in power, they feel no need to even pretend to be decent most of the time. They can just fervently choose their own selfish goals over what the Constitution or other rules and laws demand. I don’t think it’s hyperbole to say that we’re rapidly approaching the era of post-democracy America. Some would say we’ve been there for decades already, but I think we’re in for some dictatorial, executions-in-the-streets type of shit if Biden loses. So conservatives in power who like trump or even suspect that he may win or get into power otherwise have to weigh doing the right thing which could hurt their party and draw targets on their backs vs low/no consequence siding with trump.
"If conservatives become convinced that they cannot win democratically, they will not abandon conservatism. They will reject democracy.”—David Frum
wouldn’t want this to appear politically motivated, now would we?
We learned nothing from hitlers rise to power, obviously.
Oh, fuck off, the only reason it got that far on Jan 6 is that he was already in charge and refused to call in troops to immediately shut it down. I doubt Biden sits on his hands for several hours while rioters attack the Capitol.
Don’t forget they were specifically instructed to let the MAGAts run wild.
Miller said Trump told him: “Do whatever is necessary to protect demonstrators that were executing their constitutionally protected rights.”
And trump’s sycophant “acting directors” were in place to thwart any attempt at control of the drunken hick mob.
https://www.politico.com/news/2021/12/12/meadows-jan-6-national-guard-trump-524133
I don’t expect a storm on the capital, I expect something more localized.
If Biden wins the election I can almost guarantee that there will be guards posted ahead of time.
Even if he doesn’t, he’ll still be President on January 6th. I’d be surprised if he doesn’t post guards either way.
My god the media really love him don’t they ?
They can’t quit.
They love power, yeah. The republiQan owners of corporate media are very specifically and in this case directly anti-democratic.
Here’s how: Any halfway competent democratic voice would find a way to say “That’s Wrong” somewhere in there - the headline, for example. “In further traitorous thoughts, Trump says he’d attack America again”
Remember Les Moonvees? I mean before he resigned after sexually assaulting a bunch of women.
Or CNN’s Jeff Zucker who also sexually assaulted a bunch of women and was virulently pro-Trump, even having a framed tweet from Trump on his wall thanking him?
At NBC, Zucker put Trump in front of millions of American eyeballs for 14 seasons, positioning him as a lovably irascible titan of business and effectively turning The Apprentice into a shadow campaign for the future leader of the free world.
Of course. It gets the clicks. Which in turn feeds the bullshit, which they report on, and get more clicks. It’s the circle of un-life.
Stories about Trump are so annoying because there’s a decision matrix when it comes to upvoting/downvoting, ignoring or reading.
When I see news articles about another wannabe fascist with a questionable business and personal history who made their success using family money and the exploitation of others that is completely irrelevant to me, I just downvote the story and move on.
But Trump is different because in addition to the above, I also know he is actually dangerous. While it’s true he is stupid, lacks the ability to plan things, and in a sane society would never be allowed to run for office, it is also true that he’s surrounded by smart handlers and sycophants who have helped him tilt the scales of justice, and will empower him to break every conceivable norm and law to instill himself as a dictator/useful idiot.
So I don’t want to just downvote and move on, since ignoring a threat is… well, dumb.I hate that I have to ask myself if a story is something that I need to upvote for the sake of awareness, or if I can disregard it as more media fellatio of an undeserving scumbag for the sake of clicks.
I feel the same as you. I’d love to be able to completely ignore this stupid clown of a man. I curse the people that gave him that stupid gameshow and I really loathe the “liberal media” that did just about nothing to vet him.
Unfortunately, he has a rabid cult following and a feckless government that seems to want to do nothing about him.
