I don’t think you understand what protests are. Protests exist to influence policy. If Mr. Joe wants votes, change policy, get votes. It really is simple!
Remind me how Mr. Joe is protecting trans people down in the southern states?
Remind me how Mr. Joe is protecting trans people down in the southern states?
The president can say “Hey Congress, can you make this bill?” but Congress has no obligation to listen to him. Unless trans rights are being violated specifically by executive agencies, the president’s influence is pretty limited.
It’s different with Isreal, in that Biden has to approve foreign aid bills made by Congress, he himself expresses support for aid to Isreal, and he has the power to make treaties (as long as Congress approves them)
If you genuinely can only see the difference as that much then you are the fucking last person who gets to get so righteous about pulling this shit you privileged bougeyvik twat.
Cut the bullshit and stop using my kin’s corpses as set dressing for the conclusion you were going to be trying to get away with anyways. Palestinian dead aren’t a fetish for you yo indulge yourself with as you exercize the glib decadence of supposed western allies that have let us down time and time again by letting the men who actively took us to this day into office.
If you genuinely think that the answer to Joe Biden beint soft on Israel is to let Trump back into office after he handed them East Jerusalem, The West Bank, and The Golan Heights on a silver platter, either you’re a knowing zionist plant or a useful idjit who needs more than anything to just shut the fuck up and listen for once in their goddamned privileged lives.
I know who Netenyahu would be voting for, and if that’s not enough for you to be at the minimum locking down your plan to vote, you are not nor were not ever any ally of the palestinian cause in the homeland or here among our diaspora.
Yea those damn dirty Palestinians, so uppity and mad about their friends and family being murdered en masse. You’re being an absolute fucking caricature of a lying, genocide-supporting liberal and lemmy would be a much nicer place without you 🌸
Did u like, miss that the removed comment is by a palestinian? But bad faith conquers all. I must just be a lib bc fuck actually reading the points ive repeatedly made and acknowledged the genocide and bidens wrongs, best to spam the thread to bury it all so that the honest to god points that cant be refuted get drowned out in a sea of “but muh xEnOcIDe JorSEpH!!1!”
Goebbels style repition, all of it. This thread started off with sanity, so u buried it in muck, like u always do when the americans trying to ensure they still have a democracy next year show up.
I clearly didn’t miss it. You’re just trying and failing to distract from your hatred of Palestinians and wish for them to be slaughtered. Have a shit day cunt :3
You realize plenty of very smart people find it fucking stupid to suggest that there is a genocide happening in Gaza?
It’s a warzone in a place with a culture of encouragement for willingly standing under incoming bombs to try and prove a point.
The low five-figure civilian death toll is not a product of Israel’s legitimate self-defense (targeting the 450 miles of tunnels that zigzag an area only 35 miles wide). It is a direct product of Hamas and the culture that it fosters in Gaza.
How sad are these morons going to be when Trump gets in and starts off a war that kills millions of people?
“Genocide Joe” is a foreign propoganda meme. People saying it have been tricked.
No, the US alliance with Israel protects peace and stability for tens of millions of people. Just have my eye on things that actually matter. Gaza is a footnote in middle east history.
I think you’re bloodthirsty. You want to see scuttle an alliance that has stopped Iran from open, hot war against Israel. That war would definitely kills millions of people, any way you slice it.
You’re so sad about 30,000 people that you want millions of people to die. That’s blood thirst. I actually want the killing to stop, and so does Israel.
Hamas could surrender and end the violence tomorrow. But Hamas is content to hole up underneath buildings filled with their own families and neighbors. That’s who you’re risking millions of lives to defend.
To support the wholesale slaughter and intentional targeting of women and children is monstrous. The IDF tracks victims to their homes, then drops a bomb on their entire family. You think noncombatants and children deserve to die? What about the humanitarian workers trying to prevent mass starvation induced by the IDF’s bloodlust?
an alliance that has stopped Iran from open, hot war against Israel
Absurd. Israel has consistently proven to be the agitator against both Iran and Palestine. Israel has been assassinating Iranian scientists within Iran for years and bombed the Iranian embassy without warning. Israel is begging for blood. Their actions will only fuel hatred.
That’s nice you feel that way. Virtually the entirety of of the western diplomatic and intelligence corps disagrees with your threat assessment of Iran.
Iran funded the October 6 attack and has been funding violence against Jews since before Israel was even a state.
Moreover, Iran is a far-right religious dictatorship that has no future in the modern world. The future is in representative government and inalienable human rights. Iran would have you executed for talking about either one. Glad you like them, though.
Iran is a far-right religious dictatorship that has no future in the modern world.
And Israel is not exactly this? Don’t make me laugh.
The future is in representative government and inalienable human rights.
Yeah, you showed that you really respect human rights when you said the deaths of 30,000 civilians was justified.
In case you have forgotten, during the creation of the Israeli state in 1948, this was originally Palestinian land. The native Palestinian were forcibly expelled and massacred by the Israeli Jews.
Condoning Israel’s aggression does not mean Iran is without issue.
Yes the Ottoman empire held the land before Israel was created in 1948. They took us violently from Hebrew speaking Semitic peoples called the Judites. They were forcibly expelled by the Ottomans.
And Hamas knows this too, as they find (and destroy) Hebrew artifacts all the time whilst digging the tunnels.
The land records don’t weigh in Palestinians favor, unless you open your history book to the last one third and pretend there is nothing before it.
I didn’t say 30,000 deaths is justified. I said Hamas caused the deaths. It is not justified. And this is in part why Hamas must not strangle another generation of Palestinians.
No. Its not a joke, but this is also not the opinion of most of us that are tired of hearing the run up to our election be spammed with nothing but how biden is singlehandedly responsible for netanyoohoos disaster.
Gaza is a genocide. The IDF is out to exterminate a culture via bombs and a refusal to providebasic life sustaining resources. That is pretty plain as far as definitions of genocide go as best as i can tell.
At the same time, im also aware that hamas was egged on by another deranged dictator to distract from the war hes waged on a country he calls a stepping stone to the denazification of eastern europe. Im aware that status quo joe is the only one of the 2 candidates that stand a chance in our election to support Ukraine, just as im aware that his stance on israel is a continuation of US policy for the past 70 yrs. I will add that im aware hes the first president ive had in my lifetime to even verbally acknowledge that what israel does is morally repugnant (calling for new israeli elections), just as im aware that US soft powers are critically endangered geopolitically as our allies fear we change our mind on whos a friend depending on whos in power. I can guaran-fucking-tee u that if Bernie was pres and tried to stop arms sales to israel, 70 senators would be ready to override him and call him an anti semite. The whole genocide joe nonsense is drummed up by foreign bad faith actors keen on installing a foreign stooge as our head of state, again, by disengaging our youth from the political process we have.
I support the protests bc i support palestine. I dont support joe biden any more than filling in the box next to his name in november. I dont support the genocide joe narrative bc i find it clear that it is being used for nefarious ends by hostile foreign powers.
Yeah, we should let Joe do genocide because if we don’t, Trump will do genocide 😢
Pathetic.
Yes. Exactly. Because while Joe might do genocide there, Trump will do genocide here.
Or would you prefer to sacrifice your trans neighbors for your righteousness?
I don’t think you understand what protests are. Protests exist to influence policy. If Mr. Joe wants votes, change policy, get votes. It really is simple!
Remind me how Mr. Joe is protecting trans people down in the southern states?
Is the president a king? Can he unilaterally decide policies and enforce them on states? Where did you get your education? North Korea?
Our well-meaning but powerless leader, their iron-handed despotic tyrant,
You sure do love states rights.
The president can say “Hey Congress, can you make this bill?” but Congress has no obligation to listen to him. Unless trans rights are being violated specifically by executive agencies, the president’s influence is pretty limited.
It’s different with Isreal, in that Biden has to approve foreign aid bills made by Congress, he himself expresses support for aid to Isreal, and he has the power to make treaties (as long as Congress approves them)
If you genuinely can only see the difference as that much then you are the fucking last person who gets to get so righteous about pulling this shit you privileged bougeyvik twat.
Cut the bullshit and stop using my kin’s corpses as set dressing for the conclusion you were going to be trying to get away with anyways. Palestinian dead aren’t a fetish for you yo indulge yourself with as you exercize the glib decadence of supposed western allies that have let us down time and time again by letting the men who actively took us to this day into office.
If you genuinely think that the answer to Joe Biden beint soft on Israel is to let Trump back into office after he handed them East Jerusalem, The West Bank, and The Golan Heights on a silver platter, either you’re a knowing zionist plant or a useful idjit who needs more than anything to just shut the fuck up and listen for once in their goddamned privileged lives.
I know who Netenyahu would be voting for, and if that’s not enough for you to be at the minimum locking down your plan to vote, you are not nor were not ever any ally of the palestinian cause in the homeland or here among our diaspora.
Youre scary when mad, i love it. Keep arguing for sanity amigo.
Apparently the mods either disagree or agree too much
This sub be started to scare me. I guess when the affected minority shows up to speak to itself thats what u get.
For those still curious
https://lemmy.world/modlog?page=1&userId=3085637
Yea those damn dirty Palestinians, so uppity and mad about their friends and family being murdered en masse. You’re being an absolute fucking caricature of a lying, genocide-supporting liberal and lemmy would be a much nicer place without you 🌸
Did u like, miss that the removed comment is by a palestinian? But bad faith conquers all. I must just be a lib bc fuck actually reading the points ive repeatedly made and acknowledged the genocide and bidens wrongs, best to spam the thread to bury it all so that the honest to god points that cant be refuted get drowned out in a sea of “but muh xEnOcIDe JorSEpH!!1!”
Goebbels style repition, all of it. This thread started off with sanity, so u buried it in muck, like u always do when the americans trying to ensure they still have a democracy next year show up.
I clearly didn’t miss it. You’re just trying and failing to distract from your hatred of Palestinians and wish for them to be slaughtered. Have a shit day cunt :3
Obviously Trump would be much worse. No sane person would say otherwise, and I do object to his campaign.
The point is, Biden has always, and continues to support the apartheid and slaughter of countless Palestinians. This cannot be ignored.
Right now, Biden is in office and is signing bills to send bombs to Israel which will be used to kill Palestinian families.
These protests are an effort to end such policies, and reduce funding to companies who participate in the genocide.
The protests are an effort to force Biden to make an effort to end this tragedy.
You guys will protest your way to a Trump presidency like a bunch of fools. Happens every 4 years, the rubes fall for the third party push.
If the democrats would stop supporting genocide then this wouldn’t be an issue
Joe a Biden isn’t doing a genocide.
You realize plenty of very smart people find it fucking stupid to suggest that there is a genocide happening in Gaza?
It’s a warzone in a place with a culture of encouragement for willingly standing under incoming bombs to try and prove a point.
The low five-figure civilian death toll is not a product of Israel’s legitimate self-defense (targeting the 450 miles of tunnels that zigzag an area only 35 miles wide). It is a direct product of Hamas and the culture that it fosters in Gaza.
How sad are these morons going to be when Trump gets in and starts off a war that kills millions of people?
“Genocide Joe” is a foreign propoganda meme. People saying it have been tricked.
This post is a joke, right?
Ain’t no way you guys are actually this bloodthirsty.
Right?
Bloodthirsty?
No, the US alliance with Israel protects peace and stability for tens of millions of people. Just have my eye on things that actually matter. Gaza is a footnote in middle east history.
I think you’re bloodthirsty. You want to see scuttle an alliance that has stopped Iran from open, hot war against Israel. That war would definitely kills millions of people, any way you slice it.
You’re so sad about 30,000 people that you want millions of people to die. That’s blood thirst. I actually want the killing to stop, and so does Israel.
Hamas could surrender and end the violence tomorrow. But Hamas is content to hole up underneath buildings filled with their own families and neighbors. That’s who you’re risking millions of lives to defend.
Absolutely vile.
To support the wholesale slaughter and intentional targeting of women and children is monstrous. The IDF tracks victims to their homes, then drops a bomb on their entire family. You think noncombatants and children deserve to die? What about the humanitarian workers trying to prevent mass starvation induced by the IDF’s bloodlust?
Absurd. Israel has consistently proven to be the agitator against both Iran and Palestine. Israel has been assassinating Iranian scientists within Iran for years and bombed the Iranian embassy without warning. Israel is begging for blood. Their actions will only fuel hatred.
Despicable.
That’s nice you feel that way. Virtually the entirety of of the western diplomatic and intelligence corps disagrees with your threat assessment of Iran.
Iran funded the October 6 attack and has been funding violence against Jews since before Israel was even a state.
Moreover, Iran is a far-right religious dictatorship that has no future in the modern world. The future is in representative government and inalienable human rights. Iran would have you executed for talking about either one. Glad you like them, though.
And Israel is not exactly this? Don’t make me laugh.
Yeah, you showed that you really respect human rights when you said the deaths of 30,000 civilians was justified.
In case you have forgotten, during the creation of the Israeli state in 1948, this was originally Palestinian land. The native Palestinian were forcibly expelled and massacred by the Israeli Jews.
Condoning Israel’s aggression does not mean Iran is without issue.
Yes the Ottoman empire held the land before Israel was created in 1948. They took us violently from Hebrew speaking Semitic peoples called the Judites. They were forcibly expelled by the Ottomans.
And Hamas knows this too, as they find (and destroy) Hebrew artifacts all the time whilst digging the tunnels.
The land records don’t weigh in Palestinians favor, unless you open your history book to the last one third and pretend there is nothing before it.
I didn’t say 30,000 deaths is justified. I said Hamas caused the deaths. It is not justified. And this is in part why Hamas must not strangle another generation of Palestinians.
No. Its not a joke, but this is also not the opinion of most of us that are tired of hearing the run up to our election be spammed with nothing but how biden is singlehandedly responsible for netanyoohoos disaster.
Gaza is a genocide. The IDF is out to exterminate a culture via bombs and a refusal to providebasic life sustaining resources. That is pretty plain as far as definitions of genocide go as best as i can tell.
At the same time, im also aware that hamas was egged on by another deranged dictator to distract from the war hes waged on a country he calls a stepping stone to the denazification of eastern europe. Im aware that status quo joe is the only one of the 2 candidates that stand a chance in our election to support Ukraine, just as im aware that his stance on israel is a continuation of US policy for the past 70 yrs. I will add that im aware hes the first president ive had in my lifetime to even verbally acknowledge that what israel does is morally repugnant (calling for new israeli elections), just as im aware that US soft powers are critically endangered geopolitically as our allies fear we change our mind on whos a friend depending on whos in power. I can guaran-fucking-tee u that if Bernie was pres and tried to stop arms sales to israel, 70 senators would be ready to override him and call him an anti semite. The whole genocide joe nonsense is drummed up by foreign bad faith actors keen on installing a foreign stooge as our head of state, again, by disengaging our youth from the political process we have.
I support the protests bc i support palestine. I dont support joe biden any more than filling in the box next to his name in november. I dont support the genocide joe narrative bc i find it clear that it is being used for nefarious ends by hostile foreign powers.
No, but he did sign the bills to give them the bombs, and has supported the apartheid regime for his entire career.
OK, I guess nobody should even try to stop it then.
Ah yes, college students. The classic foreign agents.
I mean i neither said nor implied any of those things, but ok.
Those are literally copied and pasted from your comment xD Jesus Christ you’re not even trying here are you?