Can we goad him into it? I don’t really want a NATO-Russian war, but it might be the only way to resolve the Russo-Ukraine war to Ukraines advantage.
The majority of his army is bogged down in Ukraine. I have doubts about their readyness
I kinda doubt even he thinks that’s a good idea. Unless he’s truly delusional.
That suggests his recent actions haven’t been delusional?
Your argument has a strong essential basis for validity.
I’ve been saying this for a long while, but Russia’s every move seems to indicate desperation.
Desperate to leave a legacy.
“Stalin was an amateur. 28 million, here we come!” --putin, probably
Given the success of the 3 day invasion I’m sure NATO is terrified.
Im sure the Poles and the Fins would absolutely love it if he tried.
not sure if this is sarcasm
It’s all fucked.
Russia fucks around until someone deems them worthy of finding out. Sure, it seems fun when U.S. pilots are cranking up the AC/DC and doing their hero walk on the way to wipe every single Russian airbase and fuel depot off the map, but then half of the west’s water systems, electrical grids, and networking infrastructure gets hacked and severely damaged/bricked. Russia gets hacked and grinds to a standstill. China takes advantage of the chaos and invades Taiwan. The U.S. bombs the chip fabs in Taiwan into powder, and anti-satellite operations trigger the Kessler syndrome. Maybe some of the other regional conflicts pop off, too.
The bright side is that assuming no nukes fly, we’ll see earth’s habitability improve for a while, once people starve and consumption/ability to produce goes way down.
Sounds like the perfect time for that 5 year long camping trip I’ve always wanted to go on
Measured against the damage caused so far and the destabilized global situation, such statements are naive. During the Ukraine war, Russia and its allies have already proven several times what a laughing stock NATO is.
He says in defence of the country which formerly proclaimed to have the second best army in the world, but also
- struggles to complete its three day adventure in Ukraine for more than two years now,
- has to hide its navy,
- lost most of its active aviation, tanks and APCs, and
- (my personal favourite) has to resort sending troops into battle in Chinese golf carts as transport options seem to run.
But the West is a laughing stock.
Dang. Can I get some of the shit you are on?
has to hide its navy
From an enemy without any naval forces
Technically the drones are a naval force. Just a very cheap and surprisingly effective one.
Russia’s naval force has been a bit of paper tiger for a while now. Some of their warships practically run on coal.
Italy Hungary Netherlands Austria Germany Poland just a few examples with rising right wings. Not taking this seriously is simply stupid. All the protests that are purely aimed at causing damage are not worth mentioning for you either… The protests on the Ukrainian border with the huge food waste…
The capacities of our arms industry in the production of ammunition and other goods…
The 2 years have revealed many weaknesses… Or the destroyed trust in America as an ally… which definitely cannot be relied upon.
Damn right wing, Putin cock sucker clowns
Funny how they can do that without NATO being involved at all beyond some member states providing weapons and training. The biggest damage NATO has suffered so far is from second hand embarrassment.
Damn here are just far right people and Putin cock suckers. Yes just ignore the rise of far right… Your choice. Clown
Jesse … What the fuck are you talking about…
Those far right ones? 🤡
Ah some of this idiots thinking ONLY AfD is right wing. Clown. Go anti AfD Protest you right wing clown
🤡
Yeah, they’ve proved that to everyone who has succumbed to constant Russian propaganda.
Ah the Russian propaganda from NATO and the west itself your talking about. Clowns :)
We ignore the rise of right-wing parties within Europe etc…
You mean the right-wing puppets of the Russians? Supported to destabilize the west? Those ones?
Comrade I don’t know what game you are playing but your russian propaganda won’t bring you far here…
Blabla damn puppet
🤣 that is you response? Embarrassing…
Arguments? With people who see all previous deaths etc as a joke? After all, it’s just Russian propaganda for you. yes, it makes sense to argue with right-wingers or pro-Russians. Come on fuck off
Got a source for this?
The amount of next level bending over Putin have been forced to do for Xi the last two years… and just to destabilize the world… Oh my. The pricetag on that one…
Long after the situation is stabilized, Russia will still be paying to China for the help they got.
Oh one of those clowns who continue to see China etc as peaceful friends. Of course China North Korea Iran etc. are 100% peaceful and are not happy about the current situation… So deluded
I’m half convinced Putin wants NATO to get directly involved so that he can pull out of Ukraine and be like “We didn’t lose to Ukraine, it was the West who once again oppresses poor little Russia”
If that’s what he really wants, then I’m sure it could be arranged and nobody needs to get nuked. But it probably isn’t.
I’m not so sure NATO wants to play directly into Putin’s anti-West narrative.
Also why would anybody get nuked lol
There is simply no way back for Putin. Defeat or retreat will definitely not happen. It is tantamount to his downfall and dead… Before he remains negative in Russia’s history books, he will rather continue to attack and as soon as Russian land is lost, launch a first strike for the Holy War.
I’m not so sure NATO wants to play directly into Putin’s anti-West narrative.
They might give Putin that in return for his retreat from Ukraine. That would be the “arrangement”. But again, I don’t really believe it.
Also why would anybody get nuked lol
That’s what Putin keeps threatening if NATO gets involved.
He warned about nukes if the west sent artillery, and then when they sent tanks and again over HIMARS, and guess what the threat was about sending jets?
I bet that will be his playbook if Joe Biden retains the White House.
If Trump returns to the White House, Putin will get a punch card for every NATO state he annexes—for every sixth country he conquers, he’ll get a genocide “free-pass”.
for every sixth country he conquers, he’ll get a genocide “free-pass”.
The fine print will read: may be used on past genocides to obtain this card.
If that’s what is necessary let’s go
This sounds like possible intelligence, based on the hawkish tone of france lately; europe has its best interests in going full article 5 if this happens.
Unfortunately it would never happen before jan 7 and a tragic election.
Russia has claimed it’s going to attack a NATO country since before the Ukrainian war started. They like to say it every now and then, just to remind us that they exist and North Eastern Europe is not just an unpopulated wasteland.
Russia can’t even succeed against Ukraine. What makes him think he has a chance in hell against the combined power of NATO? Hell, man, I’m pretty sure the USA alone would make quick work of Russia in an all out war.
I’m sure Poland alone can take on Russia at this point.
unless they let loose the whole thermonuclear, biological and chemical warfare…
Well, nobody wins in that scenario
Russia would be hardest hit though because most of their population is confined to two or three cities. In most of the rest of the world the population is more distributed.
It would be devastating to all sides of course, assuming Russia’s oligarchs haven’t stolen the nukes, but Russia would come off worse. Anyway Putin wants to be in charge he isn’t going to risk getting the entire country destroyed, if only because it’s not fun ruling over a crater riddled radioactive moonscape.
Also because the wind blows East out of Europe. So, nuking Europe pushes the fallout across Russia. They would essentially be nuking themselves. The United States is probably the most dispersed population. The country is huge, and other than the big coastal cities, people are spread out over thousands of miles.
Even if he survived the exchange, he would be killed. There’s no way he’d be allowed to live.
Assuming it doesn’t result in a nuclear war. Both nations have enough nukes to wipe all life off the face of the earth.
Jarosław Stróżyk said Putin is in a position where he could begin planning a small-scale invasion but is holding back due to the West’s response to the attack in Ukraine.
“Putin is certainly already prepared for some mini-operation against one of the Baltic countries, for example, to enter the famous Narva [municipality in Estonia] or to land on one of the Swedish islands,” Mr Stróżyk told Polish paper Dziennik Gazeta Prawna.
Tl;dr - We think that Putin has the capability to mount a small scale invasion, but isn’t doing it because of NATO’s potential response. But if we assume he really wants to, then he will.
Best NATO sales rep ever.
They are not going to get a quarter mile into the EU (that’s 0.4 km for you Euros). NATO doesn’t need to march a bunch of missiles through the streets to feel tough. They keep them ready to go at the airbase.
The Russians are welcome. Our archers and griffins will feast on them.
Putin could put his cock in a hornet nest and jiggle it about, but would he?
They barely have the manpower to push forward even in Ukraine. Then again if they ever want to do it now is the time because in a few decades they’re not going to have enough fighting age men. I just really doubt this. If the current war has taught us anything it’s that they would get absolutely obliterated by Nato and there are no winners in a nuclear exchange. Also them using nukes in Ukraine/Europe would mean nuking themselves too because that’s the direction wind is going to push the fallout. Though that assumes they would care about their civilian population which they clearly don’t.
He’s waiting until November.
Even if the US sat on the sidelines, the European parts of NATO would still be formidable.
Even if the US sat on the sidelines, the European parts of NATO would still be formidable.
You mean the parts of Europe that has been taken hostage by Orban?
And likely the US would eventually intervene once both sides had slugged it out for a while, ensuring they fave a seriously compromised enemy and seriously dependent allies…and enrich themselves in the process.
It’s almost as if something like this has happened before . . .
And the time before that as well.
At least they’re consistent I guess.
I’ve had to point this out to people a few it’s amazing how Americans think that the US is the only country in the world with any real military might.
Even without the United States NATO still has two nuclear powers. A military that would rival that of the US on its own. Access to space assets such as spy satellites, gps systems, and communication systems. Extensive bioweapons research labs, if they wanted to go that route (although realistically they would be better utilized to research bio defenses). And more money than the adversary. They also have a population that on the whole seem to be more on board with the politicians then not (relatively speaking).
I’m sure if there was a war, the French would go on strike about it, but they always do that.
All the United States brings to the table is just more people and more stuff. I’m not saying that wouldn’t be useful to have access to it, but losing it wouldn’t be as devastating as some Americans seem to think.
He’s not winning on 1 front, now he wants to add another?
That’s a BS headline made to scare people. The article boils down to “Russia theoretically has the capabilities to attack, but don’t because they know the West will be angry”.
