• garretble@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    Wasn’t there a post just yesterday about a study saying people are more apprehensive of their neighbors when their neighbors have this type of gun?

    Yeah, this is why.

    And yeah yeah yeah, any random crazy person could have any random gun. But when you see your neighbor loading up with these guns you kinda know they are extra crazy.

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    Yet another responsible gun owner acting completely rationally. Good thing you can just go out and buy a gun and just have to wait 3 days to get it without any sort of checks and balances other than a simple background check.

  • Flying Squid@lemmy.world
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    The young female was still in the vehicle when she saw her father run up to the driver with an AR-15 in hand and force him to the ground, according to an arrest report.

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      When you have a gun, especially a “manly” gun like an AR-15, you start having intrusive thoughts and desire to use it.

      Same with police. If you dress up for war and talk up an us/them mentality eventually it boils over to what we have today. Many cops (not all) are just playing dress-up so they can play war.

      • Rob T Firefly@lemmy.world
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        I’ve [fired a gun] a lot in movies, but there are too many guns in the real world. I know people with guns, and they always say the same thing. “If somebody breaks into my house, I have to be able to defend myself.” But what they’re really saying is, “I hope somebody breaks into my house so I can use this thing.” It’s so wrong.

        Christopher Walken

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          Christopher Walken always has been one of the good guys.

          “I suppose I think of the man I’m playing as bisexual, and I suppose that’s how I think of myself too. I’d hate to think that I was harnessed to heterosexuality. I mean, my life is heterosexual, but I like to think that my head is bisexual, and I think it’s a good idea for everybody to start getting used to that notion, because that way one becomes aware of a lot more things.”

          that was 1973 - it doesn’t get more progressive than that for that time.

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        Wow I didn’t consider this at all. When I consider my own gun ownership and acquiring a pistol or rifle, I’ve literally never thought, “but what if I start itching to use it.” I’m more concerned with “where the fuck would I keep this away from little hands, with ammo locked somewhere else, in a practical way to go grab it all and assemble between hearing an intruder and interfacing with them… okay, this is dumb. I’m not getting guns”

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          When policing started including less-than-lethal alternatives for eliminating/subduing a threat, cops stopped killing as many people.

          When all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail. And while you may not operate that way, gen pop does, even trained “professionals”

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          This is why you wouldn’t do what this guy did.

          Kyle Rittenhouse is a perfect example of what I’m talking about. He took his AR-15 and drove half an hour to “protect businesses” that he had no stake in. He armed himself and then deliberately embroiled himself in a tense, riotous situation. While he might not have done anything technically illegal, he was clearly spoiling for an opportunity to brandish and use that weapon.

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          Sadly, that modicum of thought you put into it, is 10000 times more thought than most “responsible gun owners” actually muster

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      It’s the escalation of fear in the US. We’re force fed fear by the news, media, and Hollywood. Everything is tension and violence.

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        Long way of saying “We need guns because we’re the biggest bunch of fucking cowards on the planet”

        😂

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        Because everything is through an app now. God forbid you call a cab or the restaurant directly to order your food?

        I get pizza every other week from my local pizza joint. Delivery driver is always the same and I know a shit app like Uber eats isn’t taking a cut for jack shit.

        The problem is we want more for less. People need to understand for the things they want they have to pay more and we aren’t there yet. People don’t give a shit. They want cheap and disposable.

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          God forbid you call a cab or the restaurant directly to order your food?

          Most restaurants do not deliver and I think its honestly ridiculous to call a cab to go to and back to a restaurant when delivery services exist. If you happen to live in one of the rare places that have good public transit that’s a great option though.

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        Think about how you transform behind the wheel. This morning, at the buzzer for school dropoff. Three of us at stop sign fighting to go through first to grab street parking… all end up parking together bc we’re in the same community at the same school… the woman who angrily gestured at me for doing nothing wrong… Same friend who’s kid I carpooled in the morning last week. She probably had no idea it was me. And I don’t feel any differently about her bc I get it.

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      I wish this were true in practice.

      I have been dealing with a crazy ex-friend who as it turns out is a felon who was already dinged for gun possession from a previous felony and now that I have new evidence of it happening again the police do not care at all, even though he harasses me constantly from different phone numbers every day.

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    Presumably she’s old enough to have a phone and order an Uber. I’m guessing the the father’s taking the phone away (nothing she did).

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    Hollonbeck admitted to his actions and said he was “afraid for his daughter’s safety and didn’t know who she was with or that she had left without permission,” according to the report.

    And yet again this shows that people cannot use guns responsibly, guns must be prohibited. The US could be such a nice place…

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      Hollonbeck admitted to his actions and said he was "afraid for his daughter’s safety

      The kidnappers are dropping our own children off at our on front door?

      Cocks gun

      Not today.

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      The US could be such a nice place…

      Not really. You’d still have way too many stupid and hateful people.

      They’d just be slightly less dangerous stupid and hateful people.

      (And yes, I do mean slightly, but am not going to go more into details of the other methodology with much higher body counts that the hatred of small minded folks have taken over the years.)

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        And yes, I do mean slightly, but am not going to go more into details of the other methodology with much higher body counts that the hatred of small minded folks have taken over the years

        Apologist bullshit. There is no reality where this man threatens an Uber driver with a truck bomb. Even when talking about domestic terrorism, bombs are far more effort with far more risk, which is why they’re not already used.

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        Not really. You’d still have way too many stupid and hateful people.

        I’d gladly take an unarmed stupid, hateful people over this

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        They’d just be slightly less dangerous stupid and hateful people.

        Which is the point?

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          Stupid and hateful people just not having guns does not “a nice place” make.

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            An asshole will always be an asshole but an asshole without an AR-15 is less dangerous to everyone else. I stand by what I said.

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        I dunno, I reckon they’d be a lot quieter if there’s an actual danger of physical harm to themselves.

        Guns make people too eager to do crazy shit. You’re not going to try to force somebody out of their car with a flick-knife.

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          You’re not going to try to force somebody out of their car with a flick-knife

          In countries that don’t just give guns to anyone who can write their name, carjacking is functionally unheard of. It’s just not a crime that happens. If the criminal doesn’t have a gun, you can just drive away.

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    I guarantee you the ar-15 owner is a Fox News watcher. It would explain his paranoia and fear of strangers.

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    Hollonbeck admitted to his actions and said he was “afraid for his daughter’s safety and didn’t know who she was with or that she had left without permission,” according to the report.

    Oh, well if he didn’t know then it’s perfectly understandable to point a gun at an underpaid taxi driver.

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      I thought pointing guns at people who you thought wanted to sleep with your daughter was something out of bad jokes and old movies. Apparently not.

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        I had a old Co worker who told this story… When he was a teenager/early 20s he had several guns and was a member of the gun range. One day he went shooting and came home. Like a good gun owner started cleaning his guns when there was a knock on the door.

        He held the shot gun he was holding over his should, several more from pistols to rifles on the table and answered the door.

        Unknown to him his younger sister had a first date that night, and he was here to pick her up. Needless to say she was home before curfew and was a complete gentleman to her.

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      This is why it’s so important to have AR’s at arms reach, who knows how this situation could have ended up had he not been armed.

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    Are these people living in real dangerous areas or are they just convinced any unexpected car entering their driveway is out to murder them?

    Second similar article in a short period, the other was a pizza delivery that went to the wrong address and got shot at.

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      I guarantee that these people have never lived in the ghetto. People who pull guns on the regular have more morals and honor than these wannabe cowboys.

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        in the trenches rn. everyone around me has it but you’d never see one walking outside unless like, someone rolls by with one already out ykwis

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          I’ve had a gun pulled on me a couple times but I’ve always been able to level with the guy. The ghetto has a certain code of ethics. Folks who show respect don’t get shot.

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      Reading between the lines here, it sounds like what happened is the daughter left the house without permission and that pissed off daddy. So he decided to wait by the door with his gun until she came home and then shove a gun into the face of whatever guy dropped her off. I guess he forgot Uber exists. He probably thought a friend or boyfriend was fropping her off.

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      They THINK they live in a dangerous place. What they don’t understand is it’s technically true. They are the danger to the neighborhood.

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        Most liberals and progressives I know own AR-15’s because so many conservatives own them, only it’s the conservatives planning on rounding up everyone that doesn’t look and think like them to be executed.

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      they fantasize about shooting an invader so much that the first person they see becomes an opportunity. people have shot family members who come home in an unexpected manner or at an unexpected time. they own guns with the hope that one day they can kill someone and feel like Eastwood or whatever.

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        Hey I mean if you invested in a gun instead of supplying the needs of your family you’d also be looking for an opportunity to blast the damn thing