It helps to establish a routine for going to bed. For example, set a nightly reminder on your phone 15-30 minutes before bedtime that it’s time to wind things down. Don’t have anything caffeinated after 5 pm or so.
Step 1, wake up at 6. Step 2, go to bed at 10. Step 3, repeat.
Have you tried going to sleep at 10 and waking up at 6? It sounds obvious, but you’d be amazed at how many people never do the obvious thing. Like forgetting to plug in a computer and wondering why it doesn’t come on when the power button is pressed.
Yes. Spent a month in a ward with a fixed regiment. Never got used to it, and my sleep cycles were all over the place. By the end of the month I was starving because I was missing so many meals, and it was overall torturous.
If you have the means, you might want to consider seeing a sleep specialist and having a sleep study done.
There’s a lot of things that can cause irregular sleep cycles like that and a sleep specialist can see what your brain is doing while you’re asleep. That helps you and your doctor figure out a treatment plan depending on what they see on the results.
I checked and it seems like in my area they only do checks that I already know the results of. Stuff like SpO2 analysis, or checks for snoring and sleep paralysis, which I don’t have any problems with. I figured that I’m just drifting towards sleeping at somewhere around 6AM with the morning sunrise, and in the last years it was consistent across different time zones. I’m usually completely fine and working around this, and my workplaces thankfully had been quite loyal to me being consistently late as long as I got the job done, for which I always stayed last. It’s just the stuff that is built for morning people that throws me off hard, like appointments at 9AM that I can only realistically meet by staying awake even later.
Oh man that sounds rough. Sorry the specialists in your aren’t equipped to check your REM cycles and things of that nature.
It sounds like a frustrating situation to live with and I’m not sure I have any advice other than ask your doctor about shift work disorder.
What you’re experiencing sounds very similar to what happens to people who work 3rd shift for a long time and can’t get their sleep schedule back on a day time=awake schedule.
Sleep issues are incredibly complex however and its something a doctor who has your medical history can better address, but having some terminology to describe your symptoms can help them help you. I hope you find a solution soon
Marry a teacher.
It sounds fake, but it might genuinely be your genes. Scientifically the natural tendency to sleep at specific time is called your chronotype and it’s semi-genetic (it also changes with age and possibly few other factors). Not only that, it also affects your alertness: morning people usually have the highest alertness just after waking up and it gradually declines throughout the day, while evening people usually wake up with very low mental functions, but then their alertness slowly rises and hits its’ peak around 5-6PM.
So if you ever wondered how it’s possible that you always wake up feeling like shit, while others talk about how they’re so full of energy in the morning. That’s how. They’re literally built different.
Could you point me in the direction of some source/further reading? I would love to have something substantive to share next time I get shamed for my lifelong struggle to become a morning person.
I wonder if it’s only the jeans, or if environmental factors also play a significant role and how big that role is relative to the role of genetics.
Requires rote repetition
It’s a suppository.
The key is to master dissociation.
I showed my wife and she immediately told me 10 is late and 6 is sleeping in!! She’s built different.
Just grow older. At 45 you’ll start turning into one automatically
I am in my 60s now. I figure this will start to kick in any day now.
How to become a morning person according to this thread:
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Stop using drugs.
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Use drugs to go to sleep.
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Go to bed at 10.
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Go to bed at 10 and fail to fall asleep.
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Just wake up at 6.
Eh, everyone’s a little different, and for some it may well be impossible.
Real answer is conditioning, with most of the suggestions being means to get that rolling. The unwritten part is while you’re conditioning youself, you’re probably gonna be miserable for a while, unless you’re one of us folks with a genetic legacy of farmers and soldiers.
I’ve tried all of those suggestions, they worked but also didn’t. Now my sleep schedule is so borked.
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it requires doing it over and over again and accepting that it’s gonna make you feel kinda shitty. I’m at my best by 11am. When I used to work overnight til 5am, 11am was when I woke up. When I worked bars 5-close, 11am. Now that I work a 9-5, I’m physically there at 9, but I’m useless til 11am. When I fall asleep has changed as my schedule did, for each of those schedules I was in bed at 6am, 4am and midnight respectively. But when the machinery came online has never changed: 11am.
I had an evening job from 2014 to 2016, so my lunch would be at about 22:00, and I still get hungry around that time as if my body’s expecting a meal.
How it works for me:
Go to bed at 10PM.
Fail to fall asleep until 1AM.
Wake up at 4AM because now I have to.This is the correct answer.
Historical I have always had trouble getting to sleep, and since becoming a parent I experience waves of easy and difficult nights. This has been the case for four years now. For a while here I was falling asleep in minutes every night and things were pretty good. But the past few weeks have been awful. I’ll go to bed at 9:30 feeling ready to die, but most nights the last time I remember seeing on my clock was ~2am, and I’m getting up at either 4 or 6 for work.
I don’t know what to do, but I’m still ready to die.
Adjust the times at which you eat, and make sure those times are consistent. Sleeping habits will follow way more easily if you adjust eating times along with them.
I just use an NFC tag.
Now I can’t turn off my alarm unless I get up, leave my bedroom, and go to my living room to scan the NFC tag on my wall.
