The comments have (no pun intended) gone off the rails. Locking.
What? This doesn’t show how the democrats failed to do anything about Roe
You’re absolutely right, if only the Democrats had slipped one of the members of SCOTUS an extra 20$.
The first thing I’ll do as President is sign the Freedom of Choice Act https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BdrOrwmk78Y
Im pro choice https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nmzdkAbu8dY
Not my highest priority https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RxiDZejZFjg
parody… No https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1z4uhxpOnN0
Obama had a filibuster proof senate for three weeks, he could have given you a proper health care WITH a public option, but he did a giveaway to big pharma instead. Also could have done Roe at that time…
Obama had a filibuster proof senate for three weeks
Tell me you don’t understand Congress without telling me you don’t understand Congress.
Three weeks is fucking nothing, especially for a contentious issue.
Three weeks is a long time if you are prepared.
Not in national legislature in this country. Honest question - have you checked out the process for passing bills in Congress? Not being a smart-ass or anything. It’s fucking byzantine and reliant on everyone in a slim majority (or slim supermajority, depending on what you’re trying to do) 100% playing ball. Sometimes it’s also reliant on the opposition playing ball. It’s insane. It’s dysfunctional in the extreme. And during Obama’s term, that dysfunction became worse than ever - either (depending on who you ask) because it had been steadily getting worse since the 90s, or because Obama was Black and the GOP took that opportunity to pander to their most racist supporters by being mindlessly obstructionist (or some mixture of both).
I blame the blue dog Democrats who neutralized that majority, not Obama.
US politics is just professional wrestling, the sooner you understand that, the better. Usually the GOP are the bad guys, but this time it was the blue dog democrats… Whatever it takes to keep the class helping policy from being passed. R’s don’t want class helping policy passed and D’s don’t want class helping policy passed. D’s pretend they want it, though.
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Let? You realize that Trump got to pick three SCOTUS justices because of McConnell’s fuckery, right?
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No, no, you see, the fact that Obama didn’t coup the government and take up power as a dictator is PROOF that liberals are actually ANTI-democracy and hate minorities. He Is Very Smart.
They’re just fascists who think being painted red makes them anti-fascist.
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I’m sure you’ll be loudly crowing about “AT LEAST I DIDN’T VOTE FOR GENOCIDE JOE!” as wheelbarrows of bodies are carted out from the showers.
Hell, maybe you’ll even be a good capo for them, since you adore fascism so much.
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Your threats are getting increasingly overt as your mask slips off, fascist
I thought this was the stupidest thing I was going to read all day:
Every two years, for decades, you people drag this canard out. And yet, we just keep getting more fascist.
Then I read this comment:
So if Democrats are just going to let the Republicans have the supreme court, then women’s Rights should be on both tracks.
Please enlighten us as to how “Democrats let Republicans have the supreme court”. I cannot wait to hear what sort of delightful non sequitur nonsense you dream up.
Because it is so easy to change the justices in the supreme court.
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Do you understand how they could change it? Like what their options are and the implications of it?
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“Just DO it! See? The fact that Dems HAVEN’T is PROOF that they DON’T CARE”
Like, someone wants to say that Dems are a bunch of milquetoast moderates who aren’t playing hardball against fascists they SHOULD be playing hardball against? They aren’t fucking wrong.
But the idea that the two are equivalent or just as bad as each other is either insanity or regurgitation of fascist propaganda.
We should not be satisfied with Dems. That’s not the same as ‘let the Republicans win’.
(all in agreement with you, mind, I understood your sarcasm)
I feel like Dems are “centrists”™ but yeah. I take the “ignorant and privileged centrists” over the “actively hateful fascists”
Comments like this make me realize how shitty the education system in America is. Go take an online civics course or read book, just do something to educate yourself about how laws are passed at the federal level.
And what’s worse is they’ll probably not fix the issue as it is an excellent rallying call.
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Just because you’d pull one of those levers if it comes down to it doesn’t mean you shouldn’t do what you can to avert things before it comes to that.
I mean, if you’ve got a plan, I’m all for it. Absolutely, keep protesting against the genocide, boycotting Israeli goods, doing whatever you can. If you’ve got plans for a mass revolution taking to the streets, by all means.
But, if it comes down to it, election day comes and the current state of affairs is ongoing, you have to know which lever to pull, vile as it is. The greater evil helps no one.
It should show the rest of the flags above a few meters later on the top track.
You’re so close to being cool sometimes
I think DB0 is cool, they just have some bad takes springing from cynicism.
And fuck, getting up in the morning, I can hardly blame them some days.
But we have to do what little we can, as individuals in a world of billions, to oppose what we can, how we can.
I see you post a lot and I think db0 is definitely cooler
oppose what we can, how we can
We gotta go so far past picking between these two garbage choices
We gotta go so far past picking between these two garbage choices
In the long-term, yes.
In the short-term, unless you’ve got an army with massive popular support for a government overthrow hidden in your garage, this is where we’re at.
I’ll take it!
Yeah and both sides need the USA flag as well.
Exactly right.
TBF, the Democrat trolley will run over all those people only slightly less than the Republican one.
Holy fucking shit… We’ve looped back around with the trolley problem memes to end up back at the actual trolley problem.
The entire reason the trolley problem is a “problem” is because it’s not necessarily morally correct to insert yourself into a problem in order to save people, if by doing so you also condemn someone. It’s debated that it’s better to let an unfortunate scenario in which multiple people die play out - allowing yourself to stay out of the picture and not be responsible - than to take action to minimize the damage, and by doing so become part of the picture and partly responsible for the damage that does occur.
It’s supposed to be a difficult situation, even if taking action saves lives, because by taking action you are specifically partially responsible as an acting member in the scenario. There are a lot of people who believe that it’s better to stay out of it and leave yourself morally untouched for having never taken part in it than to take action, even if the action would save lives. And there are a lot of people who believe that it’s better to take action if you can, especially if it saves lives, even if your actions still condemn people to death.
The whole point is that it’s NOT a scenario with a correct answer. The best answer is the one that lets you sleep at night. Yes, I’ll be voting democrat, but I certainly don’t blame those who believe dirtying your hands by voting for a genocide supporter is an unacceptable act.
It’s debated that it’s better to let an unfortunate scenario in which multiple people die play out - allowing yourself to stay out of the picture and not be responsible - than to take action to minimize the damage, and by doing so become part of the picture and partly responsible for the damage that does occur.
“It’s debated”, yes. Most things are debated. Looking at the trolley problem, I don’t really have any respect for anyone who thinks that a strict deontological interpretation is worth murdering four extra people.
Inaction isn’t innocence, it’s a choice like any other.
Congratulations, you solved the trolley problem. I’ll let all of the philosophers of the world know so you can collect your prize… Inaction isn’t innocence, but the “right” answer isn’t innocence, either. Don’t take solace in the fact that you minimized the damage by condemning a bunch of people you don’t know to death by the very person you supported; this election will be my greatest regret in life for not doing something more to force out a 3rd option, as it should be for all of us.
Congratulations, you solved the trolley problem. I’ll let all of the philosophers of the world know so you can collect your prize
Thanks. I didn’t realizing having strong moral convictions was so rare!
Oh it’s not, it’s just rare for someone to have them while actually understanding morality.
This is why I never got the trolley problem. It seems so obvious that you’re making a choice either way, and less deaths is better.
Was this made to appeal to the people who are anti-genocide?
If so, it’s a massive fail - you are basically admitting that Palestinian genocide is acceptable as long as you remain safe.
And, of course… we already know that. We know what liberals are really all about.
“More genocide is good, actually!” is about the take I expected from you.
“More genocide is good, actually!”
If you stopped gaslighting people you might actually get more people to vote Biden with you come November… but not insulting the audience’s intelligence is a bridge too far for liberalism, I guess.
“Gaslighting is when you point out consequences of actions, and the more consequences you point out, the more gaslighting it is.”
10/10, no notes.
Liberal, I’m trying to help you.
If you want people to participate in this rigged game, you have to give them a better reason than merely horsetrading one repression for another.
Perhaps you haven’t realized the implications of the collapse of the Zionist propaganda machine, so I’ll spell it out for you - liberalism and any credibility it has contrived over the decades is done. Shot. Holed below the waterline. And that includes it’s pseudo-democratic pretensions.
Come November, your “lesser evilism” schtick will probably hit rock-bottom - it’s an inevitablility no matter how long you stonewall. Forewarned is forearmed, right?
Liberal, I’m trying to help you.
lmao
Fine. Enjoy rock-bottom.
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I’m perfectly happy to say I think the people endorsing and committing genocide should be subject to the same violence they inflict on others.
I’m glad you think minorities in America are endorsing and committing genocide, down to every man, woman, and child, and support their genocide in turn. Very noble of you!
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The fascists aren’t going to care about your silly little word games when they drag you away you know.
I know the fascists don’t care about words. That’s why you’re so loose with them.
“Never believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.”
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How does it feel know that I’m not going to vote for Biden, Trump is going to win, you’re going to get what you deserve, and there’s nothing you can do about it?
It feels like I’ve just heard a fascist outline their plan. Which, I mean, I just have.
Are you going to be quoting Satre when they send you to the camps?
I didn’t realize you were an anti-intellectual too! Though, since you’re a fascist, I suppose I should have expected as much.
Nobody claimed it was alright, unfortunately the lesser of two evils also includes genocide
Maybe if we can get a better voting system we can finally vote for the people we actually want
Maybe if we can get a better voting system we can finally vote for the people we actually want
And what if you can’t? Would you still pretend that it’s possible to vote fascism away?
Arguing against voting for Biden is a pro-genocide strategy because it increases the probability of more genocide. If your goal is to reduce or eliminate genocide as much as possible, and you are eligible to vote in a swing state during the 2024 US election, voting for Biden should be a part of your overall strategy. Nothing we can do can reasonably be expected to eliminate the possibility genocide. All that matters is what we do, the expected outcome of our actions, and the actual results. If your advocated action has no effect on your stated preferred world state or goal, you’re an idiot or a liar.
Arguing against voting for Biden is a pro-genocide strategy because it increases the probability of more genocide.
Participating in US formal politics in any way whatsoever increases the probability of genocide - it always has, because there has never been a point in US history when it wasn’t genocidal.
Your paltry attempt at minimizing this funadamental genocidal tendency is exactly that - paltry.
Do you have anything else to offer?
Participating in US formal politics in any way whatsoever increases the probability of genocide
Can you explain, do you think not participating is going to help?
Also don’t forget the supreme court. 2 of the conservatives justices are getting old and couldnpossibly retire during a trump term to assure a partisan republican court for several decades.
Good thing the children in cages, barbed wires and general killing of immingrants in the Mexico border isn’t happening anymore now that Biden is president!
Tell me which political party implemented this?
And which political party made it incredibly difficult to dismantle in the House/Senate?
Knocking it out of the park with these memes lately PugJesus!
Let’s see the “both sides are the same”/“vote third party” crowd scamper out into the light to get shut the fuck down yet again.
Thanks, but I’m a shameless meme thief. I’m just a meme vector!
The messaging is what’s important, so keep on vectoring!
Too bad my country is fast pacing towards a ccp like govt. Modi hai to munkin hai.
These stupid jokes about centrists really show how fucked up the USA is. Both parties are the same: shit. One is less shit than the other (democrats, to be clear), but they are both still shit. There’s a guy running literally called “Literally Anybody Else”.
Have you considered that your central position doesnt actually do shit besides bitch and moan?
Again with the stupid response. Just because you grew up in a country divided political system doesn’t mean that everybody has to be divided and tribal. Learn to think for yourself, instead of just mindlessly parroting the opinions of youtubers and redditors who just exited a cave, unable to distinguish between anything more than light and dark.
“ug ug, yuuutoober say this bad!” then start a fight with another cave-educate individual “nug nug, no mai oootuber sey this gud!”.
Learn to count past 2.
If these are our options, tear up the fucking track.
Ok, let us know when you start.
Oh you want us to do it while you sit at home and we get shot? Typical.
I’m a union and community organizer. I’m already working on this shit. Let me know when you want to come and help.
If you have a viable way of doing so before the election, by all means, share your idea.
Otherwise, pull the lever and return to planning track disposal after election day.
Good illustration!
