I distrust doctors, but mostly because at least 70% of them are just prescription ChatGPT’s
So I’m assuming you go to Bing for medical advice?
Epic
This is horrific but being discussed in such a light manner.
Okay, not entirely educated on female menstruation person here.
Does the period cycle change or is it consistent over time? Like is it about tracking a woman’s pattern and if there’s a change… that’s the flag?
To add what prune said, it can be some what inconsistent. Women aren’t robots.
Thaiks for adding that. I was aware of those cases (also: the pill can make you stop having periods at all), hence why I wrote “suggested”.
However, law enforcement can’t be trusted to give you the benefit of the doubt. Especially, if it’s illegal and persecution is especially politically motivated.
Surely, surely law enforcement can’t investigate you for missing a period?
It’s not uncommon to choose to skip periods to keep iron levels up, et cetera.
In the states where an abortion is illegal with jail time as a repercussuon?
I’d never want to risk it.
yup.
I can only imagine what someone like my ex would have to worry about in those places. The idea that something- for her- is totally normal would see her facing charges for things that never happened anyhow. It’s patent stupidity.
This kid is smart, and whoever coached her… good job.
It’s about the cycle stopping and then sarting again, suggesting that the person was pregnant until she wasn’t again.
Exactly, and it’s not just about abortion. Well it is, but abortion isn’t the only cause. Miscarriages are common, and unfortunately these days miscarriages of fetuses and of justice go hand in hand.
Upvoted for semantics
Thank you, I’m proud of my turn of phrase and disappointed and enraged at my country
Here in Los Angeles there’s been extra visitors from other states. Probably the y just want to go surfing, or visit Disneyland, I’m sure that’s it.
Bald eagle freedom screech intensifies.
Fun fact: the famous bald eagle freedom screech as we know it from the movies is not from an eagle, it’s the scream of a red-tailed hawk.
These days it’s actually the screech of the yellow bellied, tail tucked misogynist.
In reality eagles just sound like large seagulls.
Quite disappointing actually.
Seagull… E-gull…
Hmmm…
I was meaning the sound the birds make 😅
They actually sound like deranged seagulls. I think that sound is probably more on the nose for what is going on in the US.
Use AI to identify republicans based on their data, institute shadow bans and silent monetary fines wherever they go outside of their fascist states, and use the fines to finance reproductive health options for the women in their states. Watch the depends diapers fly.
Its funny, because you basically described the Silicon Valley plan to do fascism in San Fransisco
The idea of the Network State is one in which The Grays - a cabal of tech industry insiders - wage war against The Blues - California liberal democrats - by freezing them out of domestic infrastructure.
The macro task is to take back the city. The micro task, or the meso-task, is to take back individual streets and buildings and clearly mark them as under Gray control … For example, if you had Gray owners of every single building in San Francisco or even every single building on a block, you could set it up such that the Gray login will get you into the building. I mean, this already kind of happens. You have to swipe your key card to come in because the streets are so dangerous. Like near Twitter HQ, for example, that you’d like or run inside and you swipe your key card and you go up the elevator or whatever. Sometimes I’ve seen people do that. So that’s already something that exists but the difference is you’d network it between buildings. And you have something of a Gray tribe membership gets you into the buildings, gets you into certain floors. That is already legal and already practical, under current law. Okay, so that’s good, where you have a foothold of private property. And you have a group membership of Gray tribe membership and private property. You also issue T-shirts, and T-shirts are, let’s say, the similar Gray color and it’s just got different logos and patches on it.
Take total control of your neighborhood. Push out all Blues. Tell them they’re as unwelcome as … just as Blues ethnically cleanse me out of San Francisco, push out all blues. And then you’ll easily win.
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Reds should be welcomed there and people should wear their tribal colors. No Blues should be welcomed there. And in addition to celebrating celebrating Gray and celebrating Red, you should have movies shown about Blue abuses. For example, there’s this guy who’s addicted to drugs, who was addicted to drugs he posts on Twitter about how the Blue government helped him get addicted to drugs. You should have an interview with him. There should be lots of stories about what Blues are doing that is bad.
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Elon, in sort of classic Gray fashion … captures Twitter and then, at one stroke, wipes out millions of Blues’ status by wiping out the Blue Checks and, another stroke, you know, where it does cause some damage, renames Twitter as X, showing that he has true control, and it’s his vehicle, and that the old regime isn’t going to be restored.
Push out all the blues, reds should be welcomed. Gray sounds very enlightened centrist.
Biggest freedom of opinion supporter on Lemmy
🤷🏻♀️ If your opinion is that I should be forced to medically support a nonsentient bundle of cells against my will and most likely at the expense of my physical and mental health, you don’t really deserve freedom of opinion ngl
Maybe that makes me a “wrong think must be punished” authoritarian but honestly idc, let’s outlaw being a shit human
but honestly idc, let’s outlaw being a shit human
We can start by punishing those who want to murder their own unborn children because they want to be as horny as rabbits without accountability
Eat shit and die 💜
If your opinion of pregnancy is that it is a rightful punishment for humans doing sex you should never be allowed within a mile of a child, let alone to be a parent of one.
Children are not a consequence. Sex is not a sin. Purity culture is a blight upon the land that inevitably leads to forced child marriages and child beauty pageants.
You’re probably one of those monsters who thinks that all the violence Sex Workers face is fair game because “dAe SeX bAd‽”
Like we get it bro, you think the female orgasm is made up.
Pregnancy is not a punishment. It’s the consequence. Same as how blowing up is the consequence to lighting up a fag when hooked up to an oxygen tank
Comparing children to firey explosive death is not the compelling argument for your moral worth that you think it is.
So children should be ripped apart with a vacuum cleaner?
Oh, your opinion is even more shit than I initially thought. You can fuck right off.
The opinion that women do not have authority over their own bodies should not be supported. Fascism is not freedom.
I agree! Women also shouldn’t have authority over other people’s bodies!
If you think an unresponsive cluster of cells is a “body” then I’ll await you turning yourself in at the hague for crimes against humanity if you’ve ever jizzed even once in your life for the millions of people you have killed in cold blood.
“Women should be stockaded as brood mares” is not an opinion it is a fascist maxim that civilized society would rightly deem worthy of an involuntary psych hold.
Use a condom bloody hell
Not 100% effective even when used properly and the correct size is used.
N’or is any BC method short of inserting a valve in every man’s testicles that are only opened to allow sperm to happen when they earn their reproducing privileges by showing sufficient “not a blithering moron”-ness
Then why goto the doctor for a checkup?
It’s like trying to buy alcohol from a legal market - the seller will absolutely rat you out to the cops to protect themselves and their business. Same thing, you can’t trust them if you’re potentially breaking the law. Sadly, this is going on for women simply being suspected of getting pregnant so the government can keep tabs on them. It’s gross
This is likely in the context of abortion bans in some US states. Presumably they still trust the doctor to do a regular checkup for everything else.
And, the doctor may not have a choice. Even if they’re asking for purely medical-history reasons, they may have to put the information into a system (according to their employer or insurance company or for their own records), and that system may be subject to information gathering from hostile parties.
She’s not wrong, a doctor doesn’t need specifics for a checkup.
That entirely depends on where you are going, what insurance networks they deal with, and what the appointment was scheduled for.
Going in for a sinus infection, yeah that’s probably not going to be necessary. Going in for a women’s wellness check up? They are probably going to have to input something depending on the forms the institution uses for electronic medical records.
Certain insurances will utilize specific metrics to determine reimbursement. If you don’t document certain information they may use it as an excuse not to reimburse the provider.
In some anti-abortion states, the information in question can potentially be used as evidence in a murder trial for having sought an abortion. A prosecutor can potentially use the timing of that previous period to suggest fetal age at the time of a future abortion may be greater than the law allows.
Doctors don’t need that information. Insurance companies surely don’t need that information.
You’ll have to start buying tampons in bulk, lest retail starts telling on you
In some anti-abortion states, the information in question can potentially be used as evidence in a murder trial for having sought an abortion.
Yes, I understand that. I practice pediatric medicine in the most conservative state in the nation.
Doctors don’t need that information.
Again, this is circumstantial. Menstruation cycles are still very important to certain types of medical care. It is unsafe to suggest that no doctor can be trusted with this type of information.
Most of the reasons why physicians ask these questions is purely out of concern for your health and for liability purposes. Certain medications can be dangerous to prescribe to a person who is unknowingly pregnant.
Insurance companies surely don’t need that information.
I wasn’t validating the insurance companies reasoning, just informing why physicians and other medical providers may ask these questions.
Doctor patient confidentiality is not absolute, and even if it were, the associated records are not. They are subject to subpoena in certain circumstances.
It is unsafe to suggest that no doctor can be trusted with this type of information.
It is unsafe to suggest that they can. Safety isn’t on the menu here. You can only get it with a referendum. Or a guillotine.
It is unsafe to suggest that they can. Safety isn’t on the menu here. You can only get it with a referendum. Or a guillotine.
You are misconstruing health and legal safety. There is already an alarming lack of women’s reproductive care, and America already has the highest maternal mortality rate of any wealthy nation.
Your suggestion that you should fear talking about a provider out of concern for the slim possibility that you will be prosecuted for having an abortion is outright dangerous.
How many people have been jailed so far for this information? Now weigh that against the amount of just black women who die every year for lack of prenatal care. What you are spreading is not only dangerous, but reeks of privilege.
There is already an alarming lack of women’s reproductive care,
How’s the health care in prison?
Your suggestion that you should fear talking about a provider out of concern for the slim possibility that you will be prosecuted for having an abortion is outright dangerous.
Indeed, it is. As is your suggestion that the possibility of prosecution is “slim”. We have highly motivated people seriously promoting pregnancy registries. They believe such registries are necessary to prevent murder.
Now weigh that against the amount of just black women who die every year for lack of prenatal care. What you are spreading is not only dangerous, but reeks of privilege.
You’re hand waving away even the possibility of civil or criminal penalties for seeking healthcare, and I’m the one who sounds privileged?
Yeah, women should just avoid doctors and routine checkups altogether/S
Every time I’ve gone to the doctor in the US since several years before I actually had my first period (I was a late bloomer), I’ve been asked about the date of my last period. Since I moved to Germany (a country with a longer life expectancy than the US), I’ve only been asked if I could be pregnant before X-rays and prescriptions or when it’s been relevant to my visit (abdominal cramps, unexplained vomiting, etc.). I understand if you didn’t realize that it’s asked for absolutely everything or if you thought it was actually necessary, but it’s both constant and unnecessary.
Yeah it’s like asking about your last bowel movement. Potentially important to your health, but probably not pertinent
What’s the context for this? Did a doctor rat someone out or something?
Don’t American doctors have to report pregnancies now that abortion is illegal?
Not in every state, just majority Republican like Texas, but there are people pushing for it federally.
Some doctors have provided sensitive information to authorities, and also there are politicians pushing for legislation that would make protected medical info accessible to LEO and other such parties.
Yuck.
Strong agree
Off the top of my head, I remember an article from Reddit on privacy a bit ago where a nurse told authorities that a lady didn’t want a pregnancy.
Reminder to use Drip to track menstruation as every other comparable app I have found features telemetry and shouldn’t be trusted.
Could have come up with a better name. This one is almost horror like.
I’m so glad I’m old and dried up.
Hey it’s the sovcit whisperer!
Haha hello. I do exist all over Lemmy.
I’m going to guess this person lives in one of those shithole theocracies.
Yeah, the post said it right at the end. America.
This explains why people say healthcare in US is terrible
It’s a reason, not the reason
I heard even citizens have to pay for it even when you break bone.
Yup. And if you get sick. And if you need emergency treatment.
If you can’t pay then they’ll “stabilize” you and kick you out.
Having broken bone IS needing emergency treatment.
Oh you clearly didn’t grow up on the wrong side of America. We first ask, but how broken is it really?
Enough to be seen on x-ray.
Sorry, what x-ray? Oh, that’ll be $200 please. The USA is dystopia
It’s an emergency, but is it a 3 months worth of rent emergency.
“New joint I guess”
Calling it healthcare is starting to seem like more and more of a stretch every day
Following the naming conventions of 1984.
not just good, but double plus good.
Hah!
No it doesn’t. This is a problem with our laws, and it’s not true across the us, only in some of the less intelligent of our states.
The reason people think our health care sucks is because it’s for profit which inevitably leads to crappy/no care for the poor. And for that reason it does suck.
But of course, mindless bashing on the US? Upvotes, no matter how little it makes sense.
The reason people think our health care sucks is because it’s for profit which inevitably leads to crappy/no care for the poor. And for that reason it does suck.
When people compare healthcare between countries, people compare healthcare by those countries. Not by corporations in those countries. This is why I say my shithole has worst dental care on the planet. And have bad avaliability, brcause regions are still part of country. Although the worst is better than none, I guess. Terrible both by European standards and by standards of 20 years ago. Again, USSA managed to be even worse than this.
It’s secondary to point that one states problems be applied to the whole country, although thats probably closer to using the worst of any country in the EU to paint the whole EU.
The point is that this is relatively new, and this is not why people generally think the health care is bad in the us. We actually have great healthcare if you have money. not so much if you don’t. This is the general reason why us healthcare is looked down upon.
It’s secondary to point that one states problems be applied to the whole country, although thats probably closer to using the worst of any country in the EU to paint the whole EU.
Even then EU healthcare probably better than of my country.
not so much if you don’t.
When people compare healthcare between countries, people compare healthcare by those countries. Not by corporations in those countries.
Really. If you have money, there is no difference between countries.
What’s The meme here?
Red states are obsessed with knowing who is potentially pregnant and increasingly making legislation to punish people who appear pregnant and suddenly aren’t (ie, no periods, then abortion, then having a period). Some of that includes reporting that information, apps for tracking have already been caught sharing that info.
I can read.
You did not answer the question.
What’s the meme here?
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Memes are a form of cultural expression, spread from one person to another. This post is a meme. It’s not humorous but it is a meme
No, memes follow or aim to create a template / macro. This is just a snapshot of a Twitter post.
Meme - In popular language, a meme may refer to an Internet meme, typically an image, that is remixed, copied, and circulated in a shared cultural experience online.
This post is a meme. It is an image that is circulated in a shared cultural experience (this post and it’s many reposts)
Maybe - but “memes” like this don’t have the remix portion. It doesn’t even really have the copy portion, because this is more like a repost - the OP didn’t copy this tweet to make a similar but different point, they’re just sharing a tweet on this Lemmy community. So by this definition, it’s not really a meme.
If this were a meme, I’d be able to take it, change some key words while maintaining the general cadence, and a similar outcome with an alternate context. You can’t really do that with this screenshot of a tweet.
The image isn’t the meme here. What is memetic is the idea of withholding previously innocuous-seeming information from healthcare professionals in the interest of self-preservation.
And if you ask what’s memetic about that, I will in turn ask you what coordinated and intentional effort exists to push this concept of information withholding for safety onto American women? And when you then come back after having not found any coordinated and intentional effort, I will simply ask you then how you think this idea has spread to the point of being so easily recognizable and identifiable? Memetic discourse.
Nope! A meme is an idea that passes from person to person and evolves as it does. Image macros are simply one form of meme.
The image in the OP, nor the text within it, will be passed from person to person nor will it become the basis for parody. There has to be some criteria for a meme community to follow and any original piece of text will qualify unless there’s some amount of circulation associated with it. Otherwise what separates this community from lemmy.world/c/politics ?
Here ya go: https://imgflip.com/i/8qbioo
You say that with such certainty. Can you prognosticate about other things or just the future of memes?
It already has been passed from person to person. We wouldn’t be talking about it if it hadn’t.
You are describing image macros, which are only one single type of meme, not the only thing that can be memetic. Even philosophical concepts can be spread memetically.
I’m sorry, you simply have a misconception about what the definition of a meme is.
Congrats, you’ve become the meme here
At least now there is one. Happy to help.
Missed opportunity to use the “Look at me, I’m the meme now” meme as your response to becoming the meme.
Either you die a memer or live long enough to become the meme.
I would classify this as a combo INFOSEC and “OK boomer” meme, ie, “Lol, you trust _____ with that info? OK boomer”
15 years or so ago I would’ve classified it as a conspiracy nutjob meme, but that’s the state of politics.
Thanks
abortion ban
Didnt you know? Screenshots of text are they new memes
Mods should remove posts which don’t stay on topic
Good one. As far as I can tell there are no moderators.
They should, but this is a political topic meme.
But it’s not
Yes it is.
Fuck, not being able to trust your doctor because some bootlicker in a suit has passed (or is trying to) a law defining your body’s natural processes as a potential murder case?
Fuck these fascist Republican scumbags.
If these fuckers get their way, I will, at some point, start seeing murder cases where the perpetrator is a woman and default to thinking it’s bullshit because of this.
Yup, and once they fully ban abortion, birth control is next, followed by taking away womens right to choose if they have kids or not. Meaning all girls will have a set amount of time to have their required number of children, following their first period.
What do you think happens with universal systems?
Any doctor office I walk into, gets my entire history based on my PHIN… which is required for me to provide in order to get service.
whoosh
My country has free healthcare. Doctors do not get any info unless you give them, because you keep the files.
I tell every doctor “a few weeks ago” and then when they suggest a date I say yes. So every doctor has a different day lol. Hopefully that doesn’t come back to bite me
I hope you don’t live in an abortion ban state, because that very well could come back to bite you
I do, so we will see what happens
I’m sure my governor would love to see me in jail anyway
That makes me soooo fucking angry
I thought you meant:
Doctor: “when was your last period?”
Me: “a few weeks ago.”
Doctor: “date?”
Me: yes
Doctor: great I’ll pick you up at 8
breeding intensifies
Kinda funny how breeding fetishes kinda became more popular around the same time the right to abortion date flared up again after Dobbs
Hmm…you are definitely hanging around a different corner of the internet then I am.
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Your grandmother from Long Island highly approves!
Hey if you’re on hormonal birth control I think you can just tell them you use the method that gets rid of periods (not taking the placebo week and just continuing with the hormone pills, this is safe if you also just don’t want to have periods link)
I have an iud and besides a short time after having one removed to get pregnant with my daughter haven’t had my period in uh, 9 years? I just tell them I don’t have a period and haven’t in years and they accept that readily
If you live in a deep red state even that info will be used against you. The GOP wants to make women brood sows and any type of birth control is considered murder/going against God’s plan.
Oh I get it, it’s in response to pregnancy tracking bills in the making. I just thought she was anti-medicine in general, at first.
I’m sure you get it, but this is kinda for whoever is out of the loop on this.
Yeah, right now the meta for pro-choice women is to delete and remove all period tracking apps under the assumption the apps will snitch directly to the government on you, so that, say, Texas lawmakers will know if your period is overdue, and thus you are expected to be possibly pregnant. Then, if that data leads them to certain conclusions, they assume an abortion has happened, and they want that fully criminalized.
It is not unlikely to expect an incarceration in order to “protect the life of the baby”, even if you have made no move toward abortion, but once the tracker app and its data tell the patriarchy that you might be pregnant, all bets are off.
Even worse is that sometimes a woman’s period is just irregular, or even disappears for a time, especially if she’s on some serious athletics and a tight diet, so there’s a lot of room for false positive “pregnant” results with possible felony charges on the line, over the fucking tracker app on your phone.
The same situation drives the daughter’s actions, doctors will often snitch, and the problem of anti-choice doctors getting you incarcerated because they think you might be pregnant is well known.
Basically this information is now expected to be used to monitor for pregnancy, possibly by law enforcement directly, and it becomes very compromising, especially for a teen girl who already lacks the rights she needs to take herself away from unwanted situations and states. She also likely wants to normalize this behavior for herself, so that others wanting to hide pregnancy do not set off “red flags” when they try to maintain privacy.
Wow. America’s a scary place.
It is if you view it through this fucked up lens, sure.
The scare tactic “Fox News” approach alive and well here, I see.
I just mean compared to the country I live in.
I’m so glad I got sterilized once the RvW info got leaked. I wish I could thank whomever leaked it. In my eyes, they’re a hero.
I am Canadian and offered on my Facebook page to mail abortion pills to Americans, got IMMEDIATELY banned for 30 days, and was interviewed by Vice about that. Facebook is complicit.
I’m not one to defend Facebook, the execs can burn in hell for all I care, but they do have to comply with the laws of countries or else face being sued by some litigious Americans.
Let me ask you this. Are you still on Facebook?
Me myself was not happy with the influx of misinformation on there 10 years ago and I’ve not used the site since, or Instagram or WhatsApp.
Full disclosure: we use ReactJS at work.
Yes because I have a lot of friends from a previous social media platform and that’s the only way we can stay connected.
Hey, each to their own, but I’m prepared to make sacrifices for the things I believe.
I don’t shop on Amazon, and some things I just can’t find elsewhere so I just don’t buy them.
As mentioned I don’t use WhatsApp so I miss out on group chats as my friends won’t use signal.
The list is quite long at this point.
I just find it odd that you’ll call out Facebook for being complicit but do nothing about it.
I really appreciate your dedication but most of us are just trying to get by. I mean the fact that we’re engaging with you on this platform instead of others is worth something.
Personally I am old enough that I have never had social media. ICQ then AIM were the way people connected when I was young. Many of the people my age have Facebook accounts, but it’s not like they’re on there obsessing daily.
My wife deleted her Facebook a couple years ago and I was so proud of her.
Please be careful. Your heart is in the right place but if you keep cutting people out over a shitty choice of platform you might end up out of friends.
Thank you for your kind words, and I didn’t mean to come across as combative or anything, I was just voicing my thoughts.
As for losing friends, if my friends don’t believe in the same things as me then I really should find friends I have more in common with.
Full disclosure I’ve done some fucked up things in my life and my way of making amends is speaking of for the people less fortunate than I am and taking a stand for the things I believe, whether it makes a difference or not.
If I had a better way to universally keep in touch I would.
