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    So, next time someone starts with bOtH sIdEs or says the dems don’t do anything: They are talking out of their ass.

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      The dems are much better at rolling out the republican agenda tbh, it just takes a splash of blue paint and their diehards will go along with full on border walls, immigrant concentration camps, unlimited support for Israel, riot cops beating down protestors.

      Biden even “ended covid” and did what Trump recommended - just stop testing!

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        Biden handling of COVID and the acceptance of it is wild. He just swept COVID under the rug, cut monitoring and said it was over when it’s not over at all. It was a shitty move and Dems ate it for lunch when they not months before and been wild with anger over Trump’s handling of COVID which wasn’t good but better than Bidens.

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    1980 Biden: Kill their women and children if you have to.

    2024 Biden: Vote for me or else they’ll kill more children than I allowed them to.

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    I’ve never seen anyone say both sides are the same but lots of people say neither side is acceptable.

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      I’ve run across the latter too.

      They’re the ones you can’t get to admit they’re getting one of these whether they like it or not and try to convince others the worse of the two is more desirable for some fucking reason.

      But they’re “leftists” lol.

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        I’ve never seen anyone who thinks neither candidate is acceptable try to argue for one over the other.

        I know personally plenty of people who advocate sitting this one out and some like myself who say we ought to vote third party (psl in my case) though.

        I’m really surprised the dyed in the wool true believer dems aren’t pushing for ol genocide Joe to step down at the convention.

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          like myself who say we ought to vote third party

          You’re exactly who I’m talking about then.

          You’re getting one of the two in the picture (Dem or Rep nominee). You can help mitigate damage or not. /shrug.

          I’ll just go ahead and post my next reply now to save us both some time:

          “My vote doesn’t matter because I’m in a $color state” said millions of people.

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            So what’s your red line? If genocide isn’t enough to get you to turn your back on the democrats at the very least unless they drop Biden from the ticket, how far is too far? How bad can it get before you decide it’s more important to support a third party you actually believe in?

            Mine wasn’t even the genocide.

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              I’m not sure what about the logic of “we’re getting one of these two” isn’t getting through.

              1. One of these two are going to be elected
              2. One is clearly better than the other
              3. Voting for the better of the two has a chance to mitigate damage and has already proven to be a better choice once before

              As soon as #2 stops being true I’ll have to reevaluate.

              I will celebrate #1 being false if I ever live to see first past the post die in this country but I’m not holding my breath.

              I get over what I wish would happen and deal with facts.

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                Okay, but like I asked, when do you turn your back on that and work toward something else? When do you say to yourself “it doesn’t matter which of these two are better by whatever metric, I won’t stand by and assent to either of them”?

                Surely some action by the Biden administration is far enough beyond the pale to make you look for a different option, right?

                Even if you took a purely utilitarian approach, at some point both major parties are so far beyond what you consider acceptable that the effect of a third party vote cast with full knowledge that party won’t win is of greater utility than some poison compromise.

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                  Surely some action by the Biden administration is far enough beyond the pale to make you look for a different option, right?

                  What other option?

                  This bullshit is exactly what I was talking about. “C’mon, let’s vote third party. I know we can’t win, but morals.”

                  And elect Trump? Fuck no.

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                  Surely some action by the Biden administration is far enough beyond the pale to make you look for a different option, right?

                  many liberals do not have a cutoff point here. if Democrats were having people executed in the streets, they would argue that more people would be executed in the streets under Republicans, so leftists who don’t vote Democrat are morally bankrupt and effectively on the side of the Republicans.

                  oh, wait, that’s literally their argument for this election, it’s just that said streets and people happen to not be the good ol’ US of A.

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    infrastructure bill is just climate change acceleration. More roads, more SUV’s.

    This meme’s missing the genocide arming, strike busting, and affordable EV banning

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          About 54 percent ($643 billion) of the law’s $1.2 trillion total goes toward surface transportation, into a massive five-year authorization (through 2026) of federal transportation law that’s nearly twice the size of the FAST Act that it replaces. The rest goes toward other non-surface transportation infrastructure needs. Two-thirds ($432 billion) of that $643 billion is flowing to conventional highway programs. And when compared to the previous five-year law, the new infrastructure bill increases highway program funding by 90 percent, transit funding by 79 percent, and rail infrastructure funding by 750 percent.

          As i read it, that says 2/3 of 54% is surface transportation, including rail and bridges etc. so roughly $425B out of 1.2T. So, not mostly highways.

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            A plurality for highways. By a large margin the largest recipient of funds from the bill.

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              plurality /ploo͝-răl′ĭ-tē/

              noun

              1. The state or fact of being plural.
              2. A large number or amount; a multitude.

              Had to look it up. So you agree you were mistaken that it was “mostly” or all related to fossil-fuel vehicle infrastructure? Or at least it’s not mostly highways then?

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                Plurality also means receiving the most out of all recipients but without receiving a majority. Like our elections.

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          There was some stuff for rehabilitating our rail corridors. Not enough, of course, but it was there.

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            oh sure there’s things in it that could be considered beneficial to the climate. all vastly outweighed by the climate damage of the hundreds of billions going to highways.

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              It’s the infrastructure bill, not the climate change bill. Which, btw, Biden passed the largest climate change bill in world history but you just keep trying to convince people that Biden bad.

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                It is a climate change bill, its accelerating climate change.

                Dont worry i know about that other bill too, the one that opened up millions of acres of new oil drilling

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      Also, their much touted climate change bill is almost entirely just handing out money to wealthy for profit companies (including fucking oil and gas companies for carbon capture programs that probably won’t work) and hoping they do good things with it, instead of just prohibiting them from doing bad things like we should be doing

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      I would say arming Israel is now squarely on Congress.

      In this case Joe Biden did not want to restart shipments but was forced by a Congressional resolution.

      Here is a Reuters article covering the resolution, here is the house press release, here is the Congressional voting record.

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        Biden used emergency powers to bypass congress on shipping missiles to Israel before. This resolution is in range of veto, also holy shit what a title.

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          He used his powers to bypass the Congressional approval process and then has since been against shipping weapons most likely because of the blowback.

          While he could veto this resolution given the overwhelming support by Congress it would only cause a short term delay.

          Congress at that level of approval has the right to override a presidential veto and given that it was done with the express purpose of spiting the president’s orders I don’t think it would do much good.

          I will never understand why people are so keen on laying this entirely at the presidency.

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            While he could veto this resolution given the overwhelming support by Congress it would only cause a short term delay.

            So why not do that then? Why not veto it and show he doesn’t want more weapons sent to Israel? If you’re so afraid of the inevitable “people will just vote for it anyways,” why not just roll over and let Trump have his second term?

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            I will never understand why people are so keen on laying this entirely at the presidency.

            Because how else will they get their long-awaited second Trump presidency, if not by playing Bothsides™ games with Biden?

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              Scary how right this seems with every passing day, I don’t like to be reductionist but most people here can’t be reasoned with

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                Most people on here can be reasoned with. But once you start learning usernames, you notice who the loud ones are.

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              You’ve inhaled your own facts too frequently if you think everyone critical of Biden and the democrats want a Trump presidency.

              It’s Biden’s to lose and he keeps making choices to ensure it happens. Stop expecting blind support because only Trump gets it.

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                You’ve inhaled your own facts too frequently if you think everyone critical of Biden and the democrats want a Trump presidency.

                Okay, what about everyone here saying that voting for Biden is literally genocide and that they could never do it and anyone who does is a murderer?

                Do they want a Trump presidency, or do they have a super secret plan up their sleeve we normies are too indoctrinated to see?

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    But have you considered [issue that Trump will be infinitely worse on but somehow Biden is still Just As Bad™]?

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    I resent this notion: when the tax evaders pumped money into trump with the humble request of practically no longer paying taxes, Trump was there for them in an instant. When the arms industry was about to ask for an even more ludicrous cut of the national budget, he diverted even more their way before they could even finish the sentence. When the companies cutting up the carcass of the environment for money at the cost of a livable planet asked for the removal of any sort of environmental protection laws, Trump was there for them. When the monopolist student loan providers, private hospital operators, or private prison complex slavers were asking for unfettered access to all their victims’ money, Trump gave them the go in a heartbeat, so I will not stand for anyone saying that Trump doesn’t care about Americans. They just have to be the couple super-rich lobbies bribing him and his cronies.

    Otherwise, tough luck.

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    • affordable for senior citizens and Medicare patients (medicare is for people 65 and up)

    • Marijuana reclassified from Schedule 1 to Schedule 3

    • Something that needed to be done, but it’s still falls short. We have miles of lead pipe that’s going unaddressed and population centers with contaminated drinking water.

    These are half-measures, tinkering at the edges of problems.

    The insulin is especially glaring. They had the will to pass a bill and chose to ignore most of the population. I’m not saying that it’s not a net positive… buuuut, it’s a pretty damn small positive. Compared to the harm insulin prices cause every day? It’s, like, an exponential difference in scope.

    For marijuana, they have the presidency. They could higher staff and dedicate a workforce exclusively to generating the paperwork needed to pardon marijuana convictions. I’m not certain, but I think the executive can also just… decide not to prosecute in the first place. They reclassified it for the sake of a headline that sounds nice, not because they’re serious about this.

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      He could have descheduled it entirely with the exact same process that rescheduled it, but Biden still wants it to be illegal federally because it’s a great tool for cops, border guards, human resource departments and other shitheads to fuck with people they don’t like and preserving that kind of crap is a through line for Biden’s whole career back to the 70s

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    I like how they threw in the marajuna thing as some kind of economic help since there really isn’t anything more to brag about.

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    Fucking pro democrat propaganda is rampant lately. Anyone who dares to criticize the hillary clinton party is immediately a fascist. Your two party system is broken and this election is only a symptom.

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      Your two party system is broken

      We know this, but that doesn’t prevent voting blue from being the best route to changing it

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        Voting blue is the best route to maintain it. It’s likely it would get worse under Trump, sure, but the Democrats have no material interests in going against their donors.

        Outside pressure gets change.

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        How many times they had the presidency and the congress and haven’t changed shit? They don’t want to improve your politics because they ate all rich fucks who got rich off of your hard work.

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          How many times they had the presidency and the congress and haven’t changed shit?

          In the past two decades? Maybe 4 years total, less than that. And Congress was on a razor edge margin last time.

          The first time was under Obama and we got the ACA, which forced health insurance to cover cancer patients (who were kicked off in the middle of treatment before).

          The second time was just recently where we got all the Biden Administration accomplishments listed in this chat. Infrastructure. IRS funding for wealthy tax cheats. Cheaper prescription drugs. Weed. The list goes on.

          What’s that? You weren’t genuinely asking? You actually don’t know or care about any of this? Ok cool…

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      I wish. There is no reason a country’s leadership should be exciting or dramatic. Get on with doing your job

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    Only idiots are saying both sides are the same, but the only way to make Biden look good is to compare him to Trump. Such a low bar.

    Lowering insulin prices is great, but its just another bandaid on the gaping, infected would that is the US healthcare system. What happened to the public option that candidate Biden talked about so much?

    Lowering cannabis to schedule 3 is a step in the right direction, now we can have legitimate legal studies on the drug. But this doesn’t have to go in baby steps, he could have just descheduled it. We will still be arresting and prosecuting and jailing, ruining lives and wasting loads of taxpayer dollars.

    The infrastructure bill is just clearing the maintenance backlog, we still have no real plans for high speed rail. Our infrastructure is 10-15 years behind China and falling further behind.

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      but the only way to make Biden look good is to compare him to Trump

      In a recent survey of 154 historical scholars measuring presidential ranking through the accomplishments of all 45 presidents, Biden ranked 14th, while Trump ranked dead last.

      Its easy to say Trump makes another presidential option look good, because that’s absolutely true. But it’s a little dishonest to say that Biden’s not a decent president with a list of accomplishments that stand independent of Trump.

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        decent president

        Personally, I believe Biden forfeited any claims to decency when he went on national television and lied to the American people about seeing pictures of 40 beheaded babies. This gruesome story, proved false by any serious accounting of Oct. 7th, was told to justify the ongoing genocide in Gaza.

        But I guess I’m just an idealist.

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            Using Trump as an excuse for deplorable behavior is not a good look. We need to do better than a race to the bottom.

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              I like the royal “we” like as a collective we all are capable of doing better. Look around. We are fighting just so we don’t get an actual fascist.

              As long as half the nation wants someone like Trump, we have to do what it takes to make sure that doesn’t happen, because if it does we may not be able to pick someone better next time.

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      We do have plans for highspeed rail, we’re building it in California, Navada, Florida, and the north east corridor right now, with plans to extend the network and add new lines.

      Biden has also been funding renewable energy, and fighting inflation, forgiving student debt, and providing funding for first time home buyers.

      We absolutely still need a public option for healthcare, and to decriminalize cannabis, but I don’t think you’re giving him enough credit. Biden has done more to help unions than Clinton or Obama. He’s been getting a lot done with a divided congress.

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        In 2008, both China and the US announced competing high speed rail initiatives.

        According to wikipedia, China now has 43,000 km of high speed rail. The US has 80 km of high speed rail.

        Yes Cali has plans for high speed rail, its pretty much the same plan from 2008.

        And going down your list- renewable energy, fighting inflation, student debt forgiveness, homebuyer assistance - all of these are tepid, surface level initiatives that do not solve the underlying problems. So you’re right, I dont give Biden much credit.

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          In 2008

          Check calendar

          As it turns out, as the date changes the world changes as well. Sometimes you can’t have it all, sometimes plans have to change.

          Sorry you don’t like the progress we have made 👉👈

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            I’m not asking for “it all”, I don’t expect it to be perfect. I’m just pointing out the glaring contrast- China successfully built high speed rail, and the US has failed (so far)

            I dont like the progress we have made because I believe in the promise of America. America can do so much better. We should be building rail just as fast as China, but instead we are building at 1% of their pace and people like you call it “progress”.

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              I agree with everything you said here except America having promise. America doesn’t have promise, it’s been holding the world back for a long time now, and bullying all the other nations. It would be best for it to crash and burn like all the other nations it made crash and burn.

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                  I think the fact I am English has as much bearing on this opinion as being left-adjacent. My country helped form the United States, and many of us (not just leftists) are disturbed at what has happened since we were kicked out. I mean it’s a common stereotype here that Americans are dumb, fat, and racist.

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                  Can you actually say I am wrong? America is known for modeling in foreign affairs, sponsoring coups and starting civil wars, and just straight up invading places. You’re even worse than China, and China has a bad track record.

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          Man, the self-righteous delusion going on in this place.

          Libs are SOOO desperate to believe something other than reality (not you, your haters).

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      Lowering insulin prices is great, but its just another bandaid on the gaping, infected would that is the US healthcare system.

      We have completely lost to Big Business at this point. No leader is willing to attack them and make meaningful legislation to rein them in because (stupidly) wealth growth revolves around financial markets and not actual production of goods. If you mess with the stock market you ruin everything from retirements to people’s employment. So government’s hands are tied and all they can do is treat the symptoms instead of the disease.

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      And it was Sanders who actually got the Insulin reduction through, Biden just kind of accepted it as a win once it became inevitable.

      People’s memory is so freaking short.

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        That’s how all of this works. Trump would have refused to sign it had it been brought to his desk. The president at best can block bills or try to set an agenda as party leader. Everything else relies on the house and Senate. Which we should remember they gave Sanders more power and important committee placement just for this reason.

        I voted for Sanders in the primary twice. I would have loved to see him as president. However I think he’s been more productive as a Democrat senator than he realistically would have been able to as president.

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          The more primary votes for Sanders and for progressive candidates, the more likely are their ideas to make it onto the party platform, and the more likely they are to be appointed to positions of influence. It’s not all or nothing, but many bits and pieces where it all counts

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          Well we will never know because the DNC decided they get to pick the candidate not the people

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            If you have proof of that you should come forward with it. All of those pissy whining and moaning people who’ve been making these claims all these years well thank you.

            I voted for Sanders twice in the primary. But even I’m not delusional enough to still be making these claims this far on. As much as I hate to say it Clinton and Biden did both win the Democratic primaries. Neither one of them were my first pics. But they won fair and square no matter what you are trying to will to come in to being.

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              You voted for Sanders twice and didn’t follow any of the legal proceedings or statements actually on record from the DNC? I don’t know what kind of slack jawed political corespondent you think you are but obviously you’re misinformed. The very fact you’re disingenuous and negatively insulting with your reply says it all. They won the Democratic primaries, sure. Fair and square? No fucking way.

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                I did. I simply don’t have to lie and misrepresent things like accelerationist Marxist leninists do 🙂

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                  lol you’re like the perfect Lemmy parody at this point. Even got some name calling in because I have an account on .ml? You’re a child.

                  For anyone else, lets go to the DNC’s responses when questioned on whether their elections are fair and balanced

                  we could have voluntarily decided that, Look, we’re gonna go into back rooms like they used to and smoke cigars and pick the candidate that way. That’s not the way it was done. But they could have. And that would have also been their right… - DNC attorney Bruce Spiva. DNC lawyers have argued and continue to argue that the Democratic Party doesn’t owe anyone a fair process. It has every right to disregard its own rules or interpret its rules how it wants because it is a private organization

                  Bruce Spiva, representing the DNC, made the argument that would eventually carry the day: … as he explained how the DNC worked, Spiva made a hypothetical argument that the party wasn’t really bound by the votes cast in primaries or caucuses. “The party has the freedom of association to decide how it’s gonna select its representatives to the convention and to the state party,” said Spiva. “Even to define what constitutes evenhandedness and impartiality really would already drag the court well into a political question and a question of how the party runs its own affairs. The party could have favored a candidate. I’ll put it that way.”

                  source, source

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      Progress makes us realize how far behind we still are. But we still need to make progress, we can’t just do nothing and pretend it’s fine.

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      What happened to the public option that candidate Biden talked about so much?

      Pray tell, how would Biden get that passed with the current political setting?

      Biden is a president, not a king, he can’t just deschedule marijuana unilaterally without causing problems, he needs Congress to help. Look at your answer to my first question to see how that gets done. Some info: https://www.hrw.org/news/2023/04/20/over-80-groups-urge-biden-administration-end-federal-prohibition-marijuana-and

      Our infrastructure is 10-15 years behind China and falling further behind.

      Again, look at your answer to my first question.

      It feels like you want Biden to fix everything, while completely unaware of how our government works. Which brings us to why people compare Trump to Biden, because people will have to vote for one or the other in the election. Is you want better and more extensive changes, vote for the Democrats that can only take baby steps at the moment. When they get more control on Congress, they can make bigger steps.

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        When Biden was elected, Dems controlled both houses of congress. What stopped him from pushing his public option plan then?

        What is stopping him from pushing to deschedule cannabis completely? Even if congress gets in his way, people would give him massive credit for actually trying.

        You say we need to elect more Democrats to make bigger steps, but we did that in 2008 and 2020 and still we get baby steps. Why?

        If the president is so powerless, then why are people worried about project 2025 and “dictator on day 1” Trump? Surely they must be confused, because the adults in the room like you know that the president is actually unable to pass meaningful legislation.

        Please educate me since I’m completely unaware how our government works.

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          If the president is so powerless, then why are people worried about project 2025 and “dictator on day 1” Trump? Surely they must be confused, because the adults in the room like you know that the president is actually unable to pass meaningful legislation.

          If Biden gave the order to eliminate his political opponents, nothing would happen because the amount of Biden fanatics is pretty low. Trump has enough fanatics in his ranks (which include a lot of military/police) that they would just do it, legality be damned. And with the current supreme court legality is a fluid concept in favor of republicans, and they know it.

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          If the president is so powerless, then why are people worried about project 2025 and “dictator on day 1” Trump? Surely they must be confused, because the adults in the room like you know that the president is actually unable to pass meaningful legislation.

          I can never tell when someone is arguing in bad faith or legitimately saying something off-their-rocker.

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          When Biden was elected, Dems controlled both houses of congress. What stopped him from pushing his public option plan then?

          This is completely false. They had control of the House, and a tie breaker for the Senate. But that didn’t matter much because they need 60 senators to pass legislation without Republicans impeding.

          What is stopping him from pushing to deschedule cannabis completely? Even if congress gets in his way, people would give him massive credit for actually trying.

          It would be the judiciary that gets in the way as well as Republicans. You’d have people saying Biden is an idiot and only doing this to make it seem he’s trying while not actually accomplishing anything. He’s making meaningful progress now. Congress is who can actually fix our marijuana laws in a federal sense.

          You say we need to elect more Democrats to make bigger steps, but we did that in 2008 and 2020 and still we get baby steps. Why?

          Your premise is wrong again. If you have few Democrats in control you get baby steps. If centrist and progressives had the house, and 60 senators and the executive branch, larger steps would be taken. That’s not happened in about 24 years or longer. Republicans have had that more times so you can see the progress they’ve made at bettering out country these last 24 years.

          If the president is so powerless, then why are people worried about project 2025 and “dictator on day 1” Trump? Surely they must be confused, because the adults in the room like you know that the president is actually unable to pass meaningful legislation.

          For the same reason it’s easier and faster to shoot someone in the face than it is to arrest them, put them on trial and imprison them, Trump isn’t going about playing by the rules, and he has many Republicans supporting him. If Biden breaks rules, both Republicans and Democrats would step in to fix that.in addition, Trump doesn’t care about what will last, short terms goals are fine with him. Biden wants legislation that will get passed and not struck down by a conservative court.

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            This is completely false. They had control of the House, and a tie breaker for the Senate. But that didn’t matter much because they need 60 senators to pass legislation without Republicans impeding.

            They could have changed the senate rules to do away with the filibuster forever with the simple majority they possessed. They chose not to.

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          Dems controlled both houses of congress. What stopped him from pushing his public option plan then?

          Manchin and Sinema, mainly, but also the 60-vote filibuster threshold. Forgot already?

          then why are people worried about project 2025 and “dictator on day 1” Trump?

          Because reasonable people don’t want the president to attempt authoritarian rule in order to progress his agenda. The fact that it is possible to do that is a big fucking issue and yet here we are, watching it happen with Trump. That doesn’t mean Biden should do it. It should not [and cannot be allowed to] happen at all.

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      They feed you table scraps and y’all loose your damn minds. How about forcing a seat at the table instead

      Just the perpetually cucked liberals who live in an NPR fever dream. Its at least better than reddit in this regard where its all libs engaged in an MC Escher circle jerk with Rachel Maddow at the center.

      We at least have some commenters in touch with reality here.

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        Don’t hate on NPR they’re better than most news in the US. But like all news sources you do need to actually think, not just accept it.

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          NPR is a liberal rag, not worth wrapping fish in.

          They started 2016 so deep in the can for Hillary it was sick to watch.

          Their bias is so insipid because its presented so innocuousnessly. Its the beating heart of American Corporatism.

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          NPR is straight Zionist liberal propaganda nothing more. They lied about the death of Aaron Bushnell and his motivation.

          The Genocide in Gaza has unmasked all these brainwashing trash outlets.

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        Just the perpetually cucked liberals who live in an NPR fever dream.

        Fucking lmao.

        It’s horrifying how the rhetoric of MAGA and some self-proclaimed leftists is almost identical at this point. If I hear someone talk about the CUCKS in the DEMOCRAP UNIPARTY being unwilling to stand up against the ZIONIST LIBERAL ELITE PEDOPHILES of the DEEP STATE who direct policy against the REAL will of the people, it’s a 50-50 whether they’re open fascists or fascists pretending to be red.

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            Mans out here screaming like Bill Clinton wasn’t on that Epstein list.

            Tankie shit.

            The level of incoherence astounds me. Crying about the Clintons like some right-winger desperate for them to be relevant as a boogieman again. But then again, you think that murdering civilians is what a targeted military operation should look like, so I guess I shouldn’t be surprised.

            Loving the “No u” use of tankie, btw, great demonstration of how the far-right attempts to co-opt terms to water down their meanings.

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      How about forcing a seat at the table instead

      Yeah, why aren’t you doing that? I mean, if electoral politics are so unacceptable to you, surely you should be up in arms?

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    A table full of money would be things like “government-provided healthcare” and “drugs legalized”, not “one specific healthcare need made affordable” and “one of the most mild illegal drugs made slightly less illegal”.