So many ‘both sides are the same’ memes by Blue MAGA trying to voter shame like they do ever election year. We don’t live in a democracy, we haven’t in awhile. Another example of the plutocracy surfaced today…
So many ‘both sides are the same’ memes by Blue MAGA trying to voter shame like they do ever election year. We don’t live in a democracy, we haven’t in awhile. Another example of the plutocracy surfaced today…
Biden enabling genocide and wanting to add 100,000 cops is not a good look.
And? The other side is literally trying to overthrow our government.
That’s like saying a skinned knee and a compound fracture are the same because they both have blood.
No, don’t you understand‽ Everything and everyone is either good or bad. If two things are bad, then they’re EXACTLY THE SAME
Your government isn’t worth much. Especially with even more Cops.
And you think a fascist theocracy is a better alternative?
No. When has voting ever stopped fascists?
I have noticed a lot of lemmy.ml accounts absolutely love autocratic regimes regardless of what high or low level of economic socialism is involved in them, so I think maybe yes you broke the code.
Why they think that, I for real have not the slightest idea. There’s definitely a very particular type of thinking there that honestly is just baffling to me.
I’m aneanarchirt. Try again.
I have noticed that a lot of slrpnk accounts take a somewhat simplistic view of US politics – they seem like they want to be left alone to do their thing, which is 100% to the good, but then they don’t seem to want to engage with any sort of politics that might enable them to continue to be left alone to do their thing.
Like yes I’m very happy that you want to organize in your community and do good things, it sounds probably better and more healthy than me posting on Lemmy about establishment politics. But the police state or the global war aren’t going to go away if you just pretend they don’t exist or don’t engage with them. Not electing Trump is absolutely critical to you being able to continue to exist in the US and advocate for the type of more-systemic change that it sounds like you’re in favor of.
(Of course slrpnk is a lot less homogeneous than lemmy.ml so that may or may not apply to any given user; it’s just sort of my reaction to the general vibe of “I like grassroots and non-electoral organizing for real change” coupled with “it’s of no concern to me if Trump gets elected.” And I do think they’re on the balance way more sensible than the lemmy.ml hivemind, FWIW.)
Sounds better? 🙂
And trump wanting Israel to nuke Gaza is?
If you don’t think things would be infinitely worse under trump then under Biden your not paying enough attention. One side sucks but at least allows progress. The other side is actively trying to tear the whole system apart. Both sides are NOT the same.
Yeah both sides aren’t the same, the Democrats are actually way better at doing border concentration camps, funding Israels genocidal campaign, ending pandemic relief, and deploying riot cops on protesters!
When team blue does it their devotees are totally on board with all of these things.
Anyways if things were under Trump they would be infinitely worse. Source? Trust me bro
If you want some entertainment check out this person’s profile. I thought these were some pretty bad takes, and then I found the other thread where he’s angry that it’s Biden’s fault that Covid still exists.
I get that you’re blue maga, but the worms can’t have totally emptied your brain out if you’re still typing. My pronouns are right there.
Oh, shit – my bad; fixed.
Thanks.
To your post I absolutely do blame Biden for covid being around: he was the one who ended all the pandemic protections because he wanted to return to normal because it was politically expediant- even if it was the wrong public health choice.
He ended all the payouts which were started under trump because they were “overheating” the economy.
Like Trump sucks but at least he can be bullied into stuff like the covid unemployment payouts.
If there’s one thing that’s definitely associated in my mind with Trump, it’s “can be bullied into a sensible Covid policy.” Who can forget the way everyone was able to keep him on an even keel during Covid, and how all Trump’s openness to sensible policy went out the window and people started dying, when Biden came along.
At least the blue magas were pretending to care then, before it was time to declare “back to normal” so that they can reduce the social security liability more by getting people killed needlessly.
I recently read something by a Palestinian, commenting on how so many people are advocating not voting for Biden because of what’s happening in palestine. They said that y’all need to stop using dead Palestinians as a justification for your political stance. They talked about how they were horrified that someone would do something that’s objectively worse for their families on the pretense of doing something because they were suffering.
But hey, maybe they’re lying. Fuck, for all you know I made the entire thing up. But the fact remains that there’s a large contingent of interactions that involve one side ostensibly advocating for a group of people without that group’s input and doing so in a way that’s likely to lead to more suffering.
Some people accuse me of not caring about Palestinians. Maybe that’s true; maybe the reason I argue in favor of voting for Biden is pure self-interest, but it doesn’t matter. Why I argue doesn’t matter because this tactic, voting for Biden, is good not just for me but everyone who isn’t a fascist, including the Palestinians that so many people here claim to care about.
Can you link me to that thing if you still have it? I am interested to see it
https://lemm.ee/comment/11961730
Thank you! I posted it to bestof.
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That’s not the same as what you were saying before, and a pretty drastic moving of the goalposts in a way that’s a total non sequitur, if you’re trying to say Trump is NOT a drastic and catastrophic step in the wrong direction. But other people have already pointed that out.
I wanted to focus on the 100,000 cops a little bit, because I don’t think we’ve touched on that issue before. It will surprise no one that you’re picking out one individual element (maybe borne out of compromise, or maybe from very real conservative parts of Biden’s thinking, of a piece with e.g. his support for Israel), and then pretending that that’s the whole thing.
Here’s the ACLU’s statement about Biden’s crime plan. Honestly, I’ll just let it speak for itself:
Focusing in on the second approach, they say:
… and so on. That’s basically the gist.
I also never knew this before yesterday, but that’s actually grossly misleading as far as the impacts of Biden’s 1994 crime bill. He’s definitely on the pro-police side, but saying as the ACLU does that:
The Biden crime bill from 1994 came at the end of the crisis of mass incarceration, a couple years before previously skyrocketing incarceration rates leveled off. Here’s a pretty comprehensive overview – which includes some pointed and new-to-me criticism of other instances of bad crime legislation Biden was involved in back in the 80s and 90s – which makes a pretty strong case that Biden’s crime bill had nothing to do with the general semi-police-state that steadily took hold in the US during the years from 1980 to 2000. They show, for example, this graph:
… which doesn’t exactly make it look like 1994 created our current crisis of mass incarceration.
This is the most Blue MAGA response you’ve given so far Mozz. This is next level Biden support.
What alternative did you have in mind?