Not sure if this is the right community, but I didn’t see a general one. What search engine do you use? Besides Google increasingly spying on its users, the quality of its search results seems to have gotten significantly worse over the last decade. What search engine(s) do you use?

  • leanleft@lemmy.ml
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    Not perfect:
    But here are some ideas.

    • reddit (tor)
    • wikipedia (tor)
    • certain niche direct sources (tor)

    More ideal ideas:

    • certain specific private source (maybe tor). Not reliable but high quality.
    • large collection of raw links ( requires labor, skill. And yields imperfect results )
    • searx ( mainly to share with friends and as a fallback. it is a pretty great premade metasearch engine when selfhosted)
    • ready-to-go foss searchengine implementations. (Limited in scope, requires decent amount of “labor” and time. Requires setup phase and light maintaining. Extremely high quality results. Optionally invest money in various ways to supercharge. Perhaps recruit collaborators)

    other stuff:

    • creating private collections and bookmarks
    • not using internet or using rarely or using in cautious way. Or not using www.
    • focusing on distracting self with hands-on projects.

    What am i actually using at this point? (Nothing is set up currently!).

    • Sometimes i use tor 70% of the time. Sometimes i use tor 30% of the time.
    • very frequently non www .
    • duckduckgo when needed. [Often] without visiting the links
    • niche sources (2, …)
    • reddit

    *this isnt perfect! but i think overall i think i dont spend much time traveling to websites for info.

    Historically:

    • searx
    • searchengine
    • dabble in scaling.

    Future:

    • selfhost
    • scaling
    • further isolation
    • IRL
    • other stuff. such as creating new solutions.

    There is certainly room for immediate improvement here.
    Im just lazy.

    I dont need the internet as much as the internet needs me.

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    Let me know if you find one that uses AI to find groupings of my search terms in its catalogues instead of using AI to reduce my search to the nearest common searches made by others, over some arbitrary popularity threshold.

    Theoretical search: “slip banana peel 1980s comedy movie”
    Expected results in 2010: Pages about people slipping on banana peels, mostly in comedy movies, mostly from the 80s.
    Expected results in 2024: More than I ever wanted to know about buying bananas online, the health impacts of eating too many or not enough bananas, and whatever “celebrities” have recently said something about them. Nothing about movies from the 80s.

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      Per Brave:

      slip banana peel 1980s comedy movie

      The classic comedy gag of slipping on a banana peel has been a staple in entertainment for decades. In the 1980s, this gag was featured in several comedy movies. One notable example is the 1983 film “Trading Places” starring Eddie Murphy and Dan Aykroyd. In the movie, a character played by Jamie Lee Curtis slips on a banana peel, leading to a series of comedic events.

      Another example is the 1985 film “The Sure Thing” starring John Cusack and Daphne Zuniga. In this movie, a character played by John Cusack slips on a banana peel while trying to impress a girl, leading to a series of awkward and humorous moments.

      The banana peel gag has also been featured in several other 1980s comedy movies, including “The Blues Brothers” (1980) and “Caddyshack” (1980). These films showcase the enduring popularity of this comedic trope and its ability to bring laughter and entertainment to audiences.

      AI-generated answer. Please verify critical facts. Learn more

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      slip banana peel 1980s comedy movie

      DDG results weren’t too bad, although repetitious and focused on the history of the gag, and not particular examples.

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      2 months ago

      The first result on Kagi search is this list which shows the movie years in parentheses so you can easily skip through just the ones from the 1980s. The other search results are more about the gag itself - first use of it by Charlie Chaplin, etc.

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      Kagi:

      Quick Answer

      Based on the available information, the “slipping on a banana peel” gag has been a staple of comedy films since the early 20th century. The first known appearance of this gag on the big screen was in the Charlie Chaplin movie “By the Sea”, where Chaplin’s character “The Tramp” tosses a banana peel on the ground and then slips on it later. [1][2]

      The banana peel gag was soon adopted by other silent film stars like Buster Keaton, who featured it in his 1928 film “The Cameraman”. [3] The gag continued to be used in comedy films throughout the 20th century, including in the 1926 Harold Lloyd film “For Heaven’s Sake”. [4]

      However, the available information does not mention any specific 1980s comedy movies that featured the banana peel gag. The gag seems to have been more prevalent in the silent film era and earlier decades of the 20th century. [1][5]

      1. The Origin of the “Slipping on a Banana Peel” Comedy Gag
      2. Chaplin and the first banana peel slip in film history - YouTube
      3. Buster Keaton slips on a banana peel in The Cameraman (1928)
      4. Slipping on a banana peel - 3 versions of the classic joke - YouTube
      5. How Did Slipping on a Banana Peel Become a Comedy
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      I just started using this and am still in the trial period but I will definitely be paying for it when my 100 free searches are gone. So many top results are exactly what I’m looking for. I can’t believe my expectations have been conditioned to the point where this surprises me…

      • heschlie@lemmy.schlunker.com
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        Yea it hasn’t disappointed me so far, I’m also still in the trial, been waiting for a search that turns crap results on G and DDG to try and put it through the paces. Though compared to G it is nice not having half the results be sponsored.

    • beefbot@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      I’ve heard enough bad things about it to stay well away. Which is too bad bc it’s quite good atm! I just expect it to hoover up my data & get enshittified sooner than later & the CEO is Musk-level BSer 🤷‍♂️👍

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            Oh really? I never felt like that was convincing in any way especially since lot of the stuff in that blog is just uninformed (for example you don’t have to pay taxes in many jurisdictions until you hit a certain threshold)

            I’m not gonna try to convince you to use Kagi, but I just don’t feel like that blog is full of good reasons not to.

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              1 month ago

              Correct, it was that blog And “Slimy_4og” you sound like one of the many disinformation AI bots farting around now

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                  Well, it’s plausible you’ve ingested enough influence from enough propaganda sources that you yourself believe what they’ve told you, & you parrot it back out, which sorta makes you, in the limited context of one comment, functionally indistinguishable from a propaganda worker, who probably has been replaced by an AI bot bc those can do more of that work.

                  So ya can’t really blame me for the shorthand of just referring to you as one, yknow?

  • magic_lobster_party@kbin.run
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    Google. I usually find what I want with it, although it has gotten worse over time.

    I tried DDG a few years ago and only found it worse. Like, there was a clear performance impact with me using DDG vs me using Google.

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      Same. Once every few months I give DDG another try for a week or two, but between their strictly inferior and more spam riddled results and the absolutely grotesquely bad Apple Maps they integrate, it’s back to Google pretty quickly.

      It’s like that study found out: Yeah, Google results have objectively gotten worse. But so have Bing’s and by extension DDG’s, and more so than Google’s.

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        absolutely grotesquely bad Apple Maps they integrate

        You can use !maps query to workaround that. I typically end up using DDG as a frontend to other sites through its bangs syntax.

        E.g.

        !maps x location to y location

        But yeah, if normal DDG results don’t work for you it’s probably not a huge gain.

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    I feel like I see this question come up now and then across the communities I’m in, and there’s always a debate over search engines lol. Anyway, to answer the question, I use Kagi for its custom rankings (and, more recently, Wolfram|Alpha integration, which I’ve found more useful than I expected it to be).

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      I used to have to put !g (redirect to Google) on like half my searches to get the results I wanted. These days, I actually generally prefer DDG’s results over Google’s.

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        2 months ago

        Same, especially on image searches… but Google’s quality has plummeted to a point Bing is better… how the mighty has fallen.

    • InFerNo@lemmy.ml
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      I use DDG too. When I redirect to google using !g it’s usually out of desperation and it gives me the same bad results in a slightly different order.

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    I use Ecosia, it plants trees with the profits from its ad revenue! Results are sourced from Bing and Google.

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    I run my own searxng instance. It’s amazing.

    I also spun up my own yacy instance. It was pretty terrible. It could be good, but you would need a pretty beefy machine with a lot of storage and a lot of time for it to index for it to be anything approaching good.

    • Miaou@jlai.lu
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      Somehow I’ve never heard of searxng before. Would you say it’s better than DDG? Are the memory requirements not too high?

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        Searxng is a search engine aggregator. It sends your search out to all the engines and aggregates the results. No ads, no bullshit, endlessly customizable.

        You can use one of the public instances. You don’t have to run your own.

        https://searx.space/

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        Mama, look at me. I’m talking to a .com-owner!!

        You are awesome for providing an alternative. Would you mind letting me know what’s the average monthly cost running your infrastructure and if you are paying it as individuals ?