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I miss windows 7
THIS.
IS.
SPARTA!
What could go wrong? /s
NOPE!
You cannot pay me to use Windows 11.
Wish I had a choice, at work. Technically I can run Linux or MacOS, but I’d need to run a Windows VM for a few things anyway.
How does this work with local laws regarding 2 party recording? If you’re on a video call and this records the other party without their permission, that is AFAIU illegal in many states in the US. I’m sure in parts of Europe as well.
on your PC
*on Microsofts PC.
Our PC
In light of the recent forays by AI projects/products into the reason of coding assistants, from copilot to Devin, this reads to me as a sign that they’ve finally accepted that you can’t make an ai assistant that provides actual value from an LLM purely trained on text.
This is Microsoft copying Google’s captcha homework. We trained their OCR for gBooks, we trained their image recognition on traffic lights and buses and so signs.
Now we get to train their ai assistant on how to click around a windows OS.
I have to believe at this point that a serious generation gap exists if there is an audience for this sort of constant monitoring. Because that’s what it is.
Where it goes and whether Microsoft can be trusted are of course very valid concerns, but Jesus tap-dancing Christ, this is surveillance before the data go anywhere. Add that to your AI assistant that works best with the camera on, et voila!
No doubt Google is going to say “hold my beer,” and there’s no pure Linux offramp on the overwhelming majority of Android hardware, so even if you’ve told Microsoft to fuck off …
I would say the vast majority of people (across all generations) either don’t know, or don’t really understand how extensive it (the monitoring) is and what the consequences of that are.
Just look at the number of normies who use Apple, Samsung, or vanilla Pixels as their daily driver. Unless you have a degoogled Android, all the major flagship devices are essentially surveillance and advertising powerhouses. People have embraced the willful ignorance part of this bargain. They think they need whatever proprietary garbage is offered by Apple, to the point that even their own privacy is too ethereal a concept to regret mortgaging it away in the tradeoff.
I’ll legitimately be moving to Linux today. This just broke the camel’s back for me.
Awesome! There are so many good communities on Lemmy for Linux noobs and enthusiasts! Be patient, and take snapshots!
One of us.
@Onii-Chan @UngodlyAudrey I suggest starting with Mint Linux and see how it goes. Or Kubuntu.
If you are new to Linux I would recommend buying a second drive or dual-booting for a bit just to ease into it. It has helped me persist with the transition because I always have the option of booting into Windows for a few hours if there’s something that I’m just too tired/frustrated to deal with at that given moment. Over time I’ve found myself booting into Windows less and less, to the extent that I’ll be able to drop it completely later this year without the big learning curve/wave of troubleshooting that I encountered the first time I tried to switch cold turkey.
I can second this! For me it meant that I could finish my game of modded fallout new vegas, and connect to my work’s microsoft vpn nonsense (IT support didn’t fancy trying it on Mint but that’s another story!)
I now have a personal OS that I like, and a windows partition for those few things that I can’t be bothered to troubleshoot.
So far the list is just those things and the Unity Engine as Visual Studio debugs better than code in my experience. :)
Having the option to flick back is great :) In the XP days, I loved the WUBI(?) tool that let you install ubuntu dual boot as an exe, but I think that’s not a thing these days., :)
Currently playing fallout New Vegas modded on Linux! Of course if you already did it, remodding and transferring the saves would be frustrating, but it is actually pretty simple once you learn how to use Steam Tinker Launch.
Oh fantastic! :) Thank you, next playthrough I will get things going on Linux in that case, as that’s new to me! :) Like a fool I tried nexus mods vortex in Wine initially because I didn’t know better!
@Ilandar this is a good solution . Another would be to just not jump ship head first, but rather replace everything wth FOSS alternatives instead if they’re not available on Linux (e.g.: replace MS Office with LibreOffice, Photoshop with GIMP or something else, etc.) and use them for a while. Most of the programs should also be available for Windows, and if not you could also use WSL to run them.
Once you get used to these programs, the actual Linux transition should be easier.
Yes, that’s a great strategy and one I began before even transitioning across. I guess the only reason I didn’t initially mention it is because I’ve found many Windows users immediately switch off the moment you tell them they might need to consider non-proprietary apps and services. There are a lot of really solid and reliable workarounds these days that mean you can keep some of that Windows workflow if you really want to, so I feel like maybe it’s best to just let them try the operating system first and see how much they can get away with.
As others said, trial and error, and patience. My two cents, as a Windows convert who likes to game, I did PopOS. If you have an nvidia card they have a version with the drivers baked in. Steam was relatively easy, there were only a few things I had to go to the terminal for. Now it’s my daily driver and I actually just uninstalled Windows a few months ago.
I suggest EndavourOS, fedora kde spin or Nobara
Congrats, I’d recommend Linux mint. Feel free to DM me/reply to this comment if you have any questions
Your comment inspired me and I just finished moving over. So thx.
I open windows and it starts recording: opens Plex, plays Mash for 13 hours straight, PC closed down.
Well, so, you use password generator, the password screenshot is saved.
This makes most password generators useless because they show the password for user feedback. You can turn this MS AI off, but I will have no idea if there was a bug.
That closing quote is ominous:
“Recall is currently in preview status,” Microsoft says on its website. “During this phase, we will collect customer feedback, develop more controls for enterprise customers to manage and govern Recall data, and improve the overall experience for users.”
I read “so, yeah, we built in all the telemetry connections we swear we’ll never use … just for testing, ya know?”
more controls for enterprise customers to manage and govern Recall data
ahh ok so this is employee monitoring software
Probably more what MangoKangoroo and B0rax talked about, that enterprises can opt out of this telemetry, due to compliance or Intellectual Property protection.
So only the commoners get mandatory full-scale surveillance, Ehm I mean “ai enhancement”
I’m curious whether the increasingly invasive telemetry of modern Windows will have legal implications surrounding patient privacy here in the US. I work IT in the healthcare field, and one of our key missions is HIPAA compliance. What, then, will be the impact if Microsoft starts storing more and more in-depth data offsite? Will keyboard entries into our EHR be tracked and stored in Microsoft’s servers? Will we subsequently be held liable if a breach at Microsoft causes this information to leak, or if Microsoft just straight-up starts selling it to advertisers? Windows is our one-and-only option for endpoint devices, so it’s not like we can just switch.
I genuinely don’t have the answers to these questions right now, but it may start to become a serious conversation for our department in the future if things continue at the trajectory they’re going at. Or, maybe I’m just old and paranoid and everything will be okie dokie.
Like most of Microsoft’s more odious features, this one can be turned off through GPO/Intune policy across an organization. As such, the liability will mostly fall on the organization to make sure it’s off. The privacy and security impacts will be felt by individuals and small businesses.
They claim that the data is only stored locally, so far. We’ll see, I guess.
Sadly a lot of the privacy switches are exclusive to enterprise and education users, but our endpoints are running Pro (we have our previous supervisor to thank for that). I guess I’ll hope this is one of the ones we can just toggle off without any fuss.
I guess it will be like it was before, that there is a different version of windows for these use cases. Like Windows LTSC.
A lawsuit waiting to happen… someone needs to class action MS for systemic breaches of privacy. Think of all the critical infrastructure, government, medical, policing, etc. systems processing sensitive, private, and in some cases classified, information.
I mean, no thanks.
But they did this already, right? Their “Timeline” feature in Windows 10 recorded a log of your activities to display it in your Win+Tab menu screen. I switched it off immediately, but the point is this is a new approach to an old feature they have done in the past.
Everybody must have turned it off, though, because it hadn’t been present in Win 11 until now. It’s still a dumb idea.
This is great, I can show all my 4k porn collection to my managers doing Teams screen sharing!
I read this as “40k porn” and was like…wtf mate.
That’s a wtf for you? You must be new to the internet then
Amateurs
Warhammer 40k Porn?
I wonder if the dudes in those giant armor suits with tank-sized guns are compensating for something… 🤔
You can do that anyway 👍
