Is the thinking behind this comment that Trump being worse excuses Biden of his failures? He is losing young people by funding a genocide. Not all people are pragmatic, unfortunately.
So either we complain about people not being pragmatic and voting for someone they have a legitimate issue with, OOOORRRR we could be mad at the president of the United States breaking the law and alienating would be voters by giving weapons to a state that has been committing war crimes for over 7 months.
Of course we can do both but let’s not pretend the major problem is “voters with morals” rather than “president aiding a genocide”
Yes, they are pretending Trump will be better for Palestine.
And all of them will go quiet when Trump enables total annihilation of the Palestinian people. Maybe some of them will find a way to blame Biden, but I think the majority of accounts will be abandoned the day after the election.
If you honestly think saying “Biden is not good on Palestine” is saying “Trump is better than Biden on Palestine” I think you have a way bigger problem than the outcome of the election
If you feel that a comment said to somebody else doesn’t apply to you, it probably wasn’t directed at you.
That being said, the people who are poisoning the well against Biden, the ones who have made Palestine the only issue affecting this election, the ones screaming “genocide Joe,” their actions are going to lead to more dead Palestinians than anything Biden has done.
My comment, then someone says “are we pretending trump will be better?” In response, then this person says “yes.” If they’re not talking to me and are just talking generally about other people that do this in reply to my comment, pretty weird, but my point still stands.
their actions are going to lead to more dead Palestinians than anything Biden has done.
If the choice you get to make is 30,000 dead civilians or a person who outright said Israel needs to “finish the job,” and you are campaigning against the lesser amount of deaths, you bear moral responsibility when total annihilation happens.
And they are the ones you think will bear the responsibility if Trump wins and makes it worse? Not trump. Not Biden for not listening to his voters OR HIS CONSCIENCE. Not Netanyahu and co using the bombs. The people saying “stop doing that.” Jesus fucking christ
You guys are the ones who made this election solely about Palestine, rightly or wrongly (I personally think probably rightly) and now we have to vote on that.
Do we limit the amount of deaths and use diplomacy to save lives, or do we choose the person Netanyahu wants, the one who seeks to help him complete his goals of eradication.
All people who are helping to ensure Trump wins over Biden is helping kill Palestinian children.
I’m sorry, but the world has given us nothing but bad choices and we have to choose the least bad option. Failure to do so is moral cowardice.
Are we all pretending Trump would somehow be better for the situation overseas?
Can you show me where I did that? You can even look through my comment history if you like. Didn’t happen here. Never happened anywhere.
But hey let’s just not vote for democracy and hope it all just works itself out.
Hey let’s just give weapons to someone we know is going to use it to commit war crimes in violation of our own laws and basic morals and hope the election just kind of works itself out.
I agree democracy is important to protect and Biden needs to win in order to do that. That’s exactly the issue…
…You know, if you’re solely thinking about American politics and not whether or not it’s bad to destroy every single hospital in a region and slowly starve children to death.
Goddamn, your arguments sound like a naive little child who is upset they can’t have it all. Welcome to the real world bud.
Biden’s US has done the most for providing aid in Gaza by FAR, they just finished a new pier purely for a safer and more consistent vector for delivering said aid to Gazan people who desperately need it.
Aid deliveries began arriving at a U.S.-built pier on Friday as Israel comes under growing global pressure to allow more supplies into the besieged coastal enclave. The U.N. agreed to assist in coordinating aid distribution from the floating pier, but has remained adamant that deliveries by land are the best way to combat the crisis.
The U.N. said that 10 truckloads of food aid - transported from the pier site by U.N. contractors - were received on Friday at a World Food Programme warehouse in Deir El Balah in Gaza.
But on Saturday, only five truckloads made it to the warehouse after 11 others were cleaned out by Palestinians during the journey through an area that a U.N. official said has been hard to access with humanitarian aid.
“They’ve not seen trucks for a while,” a U.N. official, speaking on condition of anonymity, told Reuters. “They just basically mounted on the trucks and helped themselves to some of the food parcels.”
The U.N. did not receive any aid from the pier on Sunday or Monday. “We need to make sure that the necessary security and logistical arrangements are in place before we proceed,” said the U.N. official.
Aid offloaded at the pier comes via a maritime corridor from Cyprus, where it is first inspected by Israel. The pier operation is estimated to cost $320 million and involve 1,000 U.S. service members.
U.S. officials have said the pier would initially handle 90 trucks a day, but that number could go to 150 trucks. The U.N. has said at least 500 trucks a day are needed to enter Gaza.
What is Biden supposed to do here?
The U.N. agreed to assist in coordinating aid distribution from the floating pier, but has remained adamant that deliveries by land are the best way to combat the crisis.
By land, from the other side, we have israeli zionist bastards blocking aid into Gaza:
Right-wing Israeli protesters blocked trucks carrying food supplies that were headed into Gaza on Monday in the latest disruption to humanitarian relief for the war-torn Palestinian territory. The trucks were attacked by an Israel group called “Tsav 9” at the Tarqumiya checkpoint, a border crossing from the Israeli-occupied West Bank into Israel, west of the city of Hebron.
“Most of them were settlers. They also live there, they are settlers in the settlements in the area,” she said. “The common theme among all of them is that they are from the right wing Zionist groups. The religious nationalist stream, as we call it.”
Goddamn, your arguments sound like a naive little child who is upset they can’t have it all. Welcome to the real world bud.
Because I think the US president shouldn’t be aiding a genocide? I didn’t realise this was such a big ask. Upset that I can’t “have it all” as if this is me wanting to not have to pay taxes or something.
Biden’s US has done the most for providing aid in Gaza by FAR
I agree he’s helped with aid. Also helped create the need for the aid though so it undermines it somewhat.
What is Biden supposed to do here?
Followed by
By land, from the other side, we have israeli zionist bastards blocking aid into Gaza
How about: “Israel, open the fucking crossings, remove the protesters and stop arbitrarily delaying aid into Gaza otherwise there will be no more arms and we will delay aid to you until the problem is fixed.”
“We will stop providing cover for you at the UN if you don’t fix this problem immediately.”
Many similar things. He has leverage he is not using over the people who are primarily responsible for this issue.
I don’t expect Biden to do it all but he’s been trying to convince them to not be monsters for 7 months now and it isn’t going so well. He needs to step it up.
Is the thinking behind this comment that Trump being worse excuses Biden of his failures? He is losing young people by funding a genocide. Not all people are pragmatic, unfortunately.
So either we complain about people not being pragmatic and voting for someone they have a legitimate issue with, OOOORRRR we could be mad at the president of the United States breaking the law and alienating would be voters by giving weapons to a state that has been committing war crimes for over 7 months.
Of course we can do both but let’s not pretend the major problem is “voters with morals” rather than “president aiding a genocide”
It’s pretty fucking basic.
Are we all pretending Trump would somehow be better for the situation overseas?
But hey let’s just not vote for democracy and hope it all just works itself out.
Yes, they are pretending Trump will be better for Palestine.
And all of them will go quiet when Trump enables total annihilation of the Palestinian people. Maybe some of them will find a way to blame Biden, but I think the majority of accounts will be abandoned the day after the election.
If you honestly think saying “Biden is not good on Palestine” is saying “Trump is better than Biden on Palestine” I think you have a way bigger problem than the outcome of the election
If you feel that a comment said to somebody else doesn’t apply to you, it probably wasn’t directed at you.
That being said, the people who are poisoning the well against Biden, the ones who have made Palestine the only issue affecting this election, the ones screaming “genocide Joe,” their actions are going to lead to more dead Palestinians than anything Biden has done.
My comment, then someone says “are we pretending trump will be better?” In response, then this person says “yes.” If they’re not talking to me and are just talking generally about other people that do this in reply to my comment, pretty weird, but my point still stands.
Uh huh. Who has been arming Israel again?
If the choice you get to make is 30,000 dead civilians or a person who outright said Israel needs to “finish the job,” and you are campaigning against the lesser amount of deaths, you bear moral responsibility when total annihilation happens.
So Biden sends the bombs.
These people say “Stop sending bombs”
And they are the ones you think will bear the responsibility if Trump wins and makes it worse? Not trump. Not Biden for not listening to his voters OR HIS CONSCIENCE. Not Netanyahu and co using the bombs. The people saying “stop doing that.” Jesus fucking christ
You guys are the ones who made this election solely about Palestine, rightly or wrongly (I personally think probably rightly) and now we have to vote on that.
Do we limit the amount of deaths and use diplomacy to save lives, or do we choose the person Netanyahu wants, the one who seeks to help him complete his goals of eradication.
All people who are helping to ensure Trump wins over Biden is helping kill Palestinian children.
I’m sorry, but the world has given us nothing but bad choices and we have to choose the least bad option. Failure to do so is moral cowardice.
Can you show me where I did that? You can even look through my comment history if you like. Didn’t happen here. Never happened anywhere.
Hey let’s just give weapons to someone we know is going to use it to commit war crimes in violation of our own laws and basic morals and hope the election just kind of works itself out.
I agree democracy is important to protect and Biden needs to win in order to do that. That’s exactly the issue…
…You know, if you’re solely thinking about American politics and not whether or not it’s bad to destroy every single hospital in a region and slowly starve children to death.
Goddamn, your arguments sound like a naive little child who is upset they can’t have it all. Welcome to the real world bud.
Biden’s US has done the most for providing aid in Gaza by FAR, they just finished a new pier purely for a safer and more consistent vector for delivering said aid to Gazan people who desperately need it.
but things are not that simple…
https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/no-us-pier-aid-un-gaza-two-days-after-truck-incident-2024-05-20/
What is Biden supposed to do here?
By land, from the other side, we have israeli zionist bastards blocking aid into Gaza:
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/israel-gaza-aid-west-bank-settlers-united-nations/
Because I think the US president shouldn’t be aiding a genocide? I didn’t realise this was such a big ask. Upset that I can’t “have it all” as if this is me wanting to not have to pay taxes or something.
I agree he’s helped with aid. Also helped create the need for the aid though so it undermines it somewhat.
Followed by
How about: “Israel, open the fucking crossings, remove the protesters and stop arbitrarily delaying aid into Gaza otherwise there will be no more arms and we will delay aid to you until the problem is fixed.”
“We will stop providing cover for you at the UN if you don’t fix this problem immediately.”
Many similar things. He has leverage he is not using over the people who are primarily responsible for this issue.
I don’t expect Biden to do it all but he’s been trying to convince them to not be monsters for 7 months now and it isn’t going so well. He needs to step it up.