Trump has waffled on whether the Israel-Gaza war should end. But speaking to wealthy donors behind closed doors, he said that he supports Israel’s right to continue “its war on terror.”

Former president Donald Trump promised to crush pro-Palestinian protests on college campuses, telling a roomful of donors — a group that he joked included “98 percent of my Jewish friends” — that he would expel student demonstrators from the United States, according to participants in the roundtable event with him in New York.

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    So where are all the “concerned Democrats” that always show up en masse to talk about how horrible Biden’s Gaza policy is?
    Aren’t you guy’s concerned about this policy too? Or is it fine because it’s not Biden’s policy?

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      They just don’t want to vote. They weren’t going to show up anyway. Never forget how lazy Americans are.

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        They want to vote, but only for the perfect, ideal candidate that wants the exact things they do. Since that doesn’t exist, they’ll smugly sit on the sidelines attacking Biden and ignorantly and (hopefully) unintentionally helping Trump win by refusing to vote for the only candidate that can stop him.

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          Well said! MAGA can literally do ANYTHING and it’s cool, including fucking their own voters.

          Democrats must be Jesus fucking Christ on earth or else the whole party is fucked and there’s no point in voting. They trot out bullshit like two bad choices, no point in voting, etc. as their fallback.

          ‘we shouldn’t have to settle!!!’ welcome to reality bud.

          The biggest shock for me is that these morons clearly have big opinions but feel their best move is to silence themselves and not vote, ensuring that the least bad choice is that much more vulnerable to the real bad choice. Undoubtedly a lot of these anti-vote people are russian trolls and the like, voter disenfranchisement is big fuckin business now just like it was in 2016.

          Single issue voters kill us all

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        That’s the thing, Trump has been strategically quiet on the issue. He wants to make sure the spotlight is on Biden, even he is leaning into calling him genocide Joe.

        Trump knows this is a hot button issue, and if he were to speak out more on what his policy would be on it, he would very much unite the left against him. Letting Biden take the heat ensures the left is fractured.

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          Trump has been strategically quiet on the issue

          He’s been very loud, but not nearly as loud as the articles about his time in the SDNY courtroom over hooker hush money payments.

          The issue is that he’s not President while Biden is. So hypothesizing what a future President Trump might do in the event Biden’s approval rating sinks any lower becomes a more compelling Conservative Democrat talking point than what Biden is currently doing to cost him all that support.

          Letting Biden take the heat ensures the left is fractured.

          The left isn’t fractured on this issue. That’s the root of Biden’s problem. From the midwestern business-friendly liberals to the college Maoists, there’s a uniform horror and disgust towards our Middle East foreign policy. The only split is whether you’re willing to give Biden yet one more pass on our latest imperial atrocity or whether you’ve finally reached your limit.

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            The only split is whether you’re willing to give Biden yet one more pass on our latest imperial atrocity or whether you’ve finally reached your limit.

            when you boil everything down to black and white, the nuance is gone along with any wisdom you started out with. Shame that’s all you got, can’t even hold an intelligent discussion without you leaping for the hyperbole.

            For instance, what country is doing more than the US to bring aid to Gaza?

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              Every single one that currently supports the UNRWA, countries that have criticized Israel and stopped diplomacy with them or cut off trade, South Africa launched the ICC case against them, ones that have tried to vote for sanctions against them in the UN or have supported a Palestinian state. So ya, tons of countries that aren’t the US.

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                Meanwhile the US is the only reason Gaza is getting any real aid at this point given all the other bullshit by both Hamas and the Zionist trash.

                But go ahead and look at the things you like and pretend everything else isn’t happening

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              when you boil everything down to black and white

              That is the nature of voting. You can either cast a ballot for a guy or not. There is no in-between state.

              what country is doing more than the US to bring aid to Gaza?

              UNRWA was the primary supplier of aid into Gaza until Israel kicked them out. Then the World Central Kitchen was a primary supplier of food aid, until Israel bombed it. Aid was coming in from Palestinians in Jordan and Egypt, until Israel sealed off the borders at gunpoint.

              Meanwhile, the US has been sending Israel more weapons used in these terrorist acts.

              Might as well credit Germany with feeding and housing Polish Jews in 1942.

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                No it is not the nature of voting, it is not a binary thing at all. Again all you do is remove all nuance which destroys the discussion

                You’re also proving my point, Israeli Zionists fucked aid and the US is the ONLY ONES doing ANYTHING to ensure aid gets there at our own cost. Meanwhile Egypt and neighboring countries simply put up barbed wire and close crossings.

                ALL those aids you listed you admit are no longer happening, only the US is now making it happen, but that’s not convenient to your position is it?

                Are you SERIOUSLY comparing the US to Nazi goddamn Germany right now? You are beyond a discussion based on reality. Won’t waste anymore time on you. Shame.

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                  Israeli Zionists fucked aid and the US is the ONLY ONES doing ANYTHING

                  US is running cover for the Israeli Zionists, preventing UN-based aid from reaching Gaza, and doing clumsy ineffectual political stunts to disguise their complicity.

                  ALL those aids you listed you admit are no longer happening

                  Because the US is sending weapons into Israel to bomb aid agencies.

                  Are you SERIOUSLY comparing the US to Nazi

                  Wouldn’t even be the first time. From our re-installation of fascists in Japan and Germany during the post-war period to our Jakarta Method in Indonesia to the Contra terrorists we armed in El Salvador and Guatamala, this isn’t even our first full-throated fascist rodeo.

                  American fascism runs deep, and we’ve had a hard on for butchering every brown person we can get in our sites since at least 9/11.

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      They’re sick of hearing and talking about Trump, so they don’t want to talk about this stuff. They would rather film themselves crying about gEnOcIdE jOe on tiktok to make them feel better about themselves.

      Single issue voters hurt everyone.