So close
There’s a lot of misunderstanding in this thread about how captchas work.
What modern captchas examine isn’t actually your ability to solve the puzzle… It’s how you solve it. Things like mouse movements and how you type are big factors. So a bot would process for a moment, and then basically copy and paste in the answer, whereas as a human is going to type at a normal pace, often with pauses as they double check the details. Same goes for the click the tiles challenges. A bot will work through systematically, a human will bounce around, and their timings will be very different.
Captchas have largely been solvable by machines at a rate higher than humans for a long, long time.
It is very easy to train a model to behave like humans do by simply having a sample of human inputs.
Here is an article from august 2023 covering how much better machines are than humans at accomplishing captchas of many flavors. Sauce
Yeah captchas are done. Soon they will be easier to figure out for AI than for humans.
This is why Sam Altman is doing his worldcoin thingy with the iris scanners. His idea: One iris (well, two…) is one real human. I’m sure this will be abused though and I absolutely vehemently don’t trust him with my biometrics so no way I will join that.
I think what we should do is just get used to the fact that the internet now consists of humans and AIs. Learn to take things with a grain of salt.
I’d honestly rather pay microtransactions for various websites than use biometrics ever.
I certainly don’t wanna get Demolition Man’d
Techno core!
This is why a lot of sites have moved to something more complex than text, like the weird “rotate this to match” stuff that LinkedIn uses.
It got it wrong. That’s a lowercase “p.”
pretty sure it’s actually “p” not “P”
most of those aren’t case sensitive anyway
They’re not!?
Yeah I often got tripped up when there are caps but the input should forced to all lower but isn’t. (This was a longstanding bug in reCapcha)
Ps: I’m totally not an AI or anything. Definitely a real person
Based on the serif of the font I’d go with P as the ao says
based off the font i’d say “p”; but also mainly because the tail goes below the bottom of the other letters even after accounting for the distortion
I wonder how that works on a Japanese captcha. I know people have had issues shortly after moving but not knowing the language at all yet trying to set some things up.
With my troubles even with English ones they’d better just give me a knife.
We are happy to provide your knife, but first please prove that you are human by completing the incantation as written…
I seem to recall OpenAI saying they guarded against captcha solving…
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Case doesn’t matter
You mean to tell me I’ve been painstakingly pressing the shift key during captcha tests for YEARS and it doesn’t actually matter?
Listen to the audio, it never specifies case.
I ALWAYS do the audio captcha. Fuck image clicking.
Ironically Lemmy captcha does
Wow, good catch!
*good captcha
so close…
Usually, it doesn’t.
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Depends on the case.
There may be some exceptions, but not usually.
Not most of the time anyway, I’ve seen a captcha from time to time that was case sensitive, but they’re uncommon for sure
It used to be that they paired a known word with an unknown word, and if you got the known word right you would pass no matter what you wrote for the unknown one.
I remember reading that somewhere (probably 4chan) figured out a somewhat high accuracy way to tell which was the control and which was the variable, and started spam solving them by correctly doing the assumed control but putting the same thing (knowing 4chan, probably a slur) for the assumed variable until the system got enough confirmation to move the word to the control rotation and started accepting the word for that. Can’t remember where so it may be unconfirmed
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Sometimes it does. It just depends on the programming.
Unix gang
Dead internet shall become undead.
“Actually there is a distinct difference between an android and a robot.”
Yup, Data did an “um, ackshully…”
Obviously not. He won a legal case for emancipation.
Good thing the Federation stuck to that!
Some disabled people have trouble with captchas, so these days you can download an extension where a robot solves the captcha for you.
I have trouble with the selecting the squares on the grid, for images that say select only crosswalks, bikes, etc. I hate that captcha. Is there a decent extension for firefox?
Buster can do reCAPTCHA: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/buster-captcha-solver/
There’s a program called Xevil that can solve even HCaptcha reliably, and it can solve these first gen captions by the thousands per second. It’s been solving Google’s v3 recaptchas for a long time already too.
People who write automation tools (unfortunately, usually seo spammers and web scrapers) have been using these apps for a long time.
Captchas haven’t been effective at protecting important websites for years, they just keep the script kiddies away who can’t afford the tools.
Captchas haven’t been effective at protecting important websites for years, they just keep the script kiddies away who can’t afford the tools.
To be fair, keeping the script kiddies away has some good value. Whether that value outweighs all the wasted time and impact to sight/hearing impaired people is another discussion.
Decades not just years
Captchas are used by google as weapon now, if you dare to use a VPN and adblocker.
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Lots of websites force capchas when on a VPN they don’t even have to be provided by Google. Rarbg for example forced a terrible captcha which I usually solved by using OCR with the OCR tool in powertoys. They letters were barely edited or fucked up at all.
Google now keeps you often in endless loop until you disable your VPN. This was never this bad.
It’s extremely bad if you come from a country like mine, Iran, where we have to use VPNs religiously in order to circumvent censorship and it has become painful to Google anything especially when you’re not logged into your Google account.
Ah alright. I never use Google search.
They appear to have degrees of blacklist. Usually when this happens if I get a new ip it resolved the issue.
Note that VPN users share IPs with other users and many of the people using the same IP may very well actually be doing malicious things. Not everyone uses VPNs for just “privacy”.
If you use the audio captcha it’s done it just one go. That’s been my experience at least after having been stuck in one too many endless loops with pictures.
Yeah I’ve completely switched to audio.
I just switched to duckduckgo, that seems to have fixed it
Computers have long since been able to defeat such captchas.
it’s the recaptchas that they should have trouble with. since it’s not just about finding the right picture, it’s also about the time between clicks, the way the mouse moves, etc.
reCaptcha never works for me. Probably something with thirdpartyisolation.enabled. Can’t snoop all the history and stuff.
They probably have some kind of randomizer for that nowadays.
It’s pretty simple to make. I built one for my last job to make it look like I was working.
but us humans aren’t truly random, we probably behave in similar ways to each other, but also have individual ‘fingerprints’. like the time it takes between keystrokes, or the length of time we spend holding the button on the mouse down while clicking. we could probably come up with a way of identifying someone based only on that kind of data. what was i talking about?
Not without enough context to know what time of day, if the person is ill, or a ton of other things that would make someone respond differently at different points in time.
The anti bot stuff is going to be looking for too much consistency, which is hard look for on its own before trying to look for some kind of ‘fingerprint’
Yeah, and a couple of people I know who were consistently reported to be robots because they’ve been shown captcha too much and as a result solved it too well. Which in turn led to more captcha and improved solving speed. Well, you see the problem, I guess
