edit: I have changed my title to match the new NYTimes headline. Sorry about the all caps, I guess they are really excited about this lol
Also shoutout to @SayJess@lemmy.blahaj.zone who shared a gift article link in the comments. I hope you don’t mind but I kinda stole it and updated the post
Damn paywall.
uBlock Origin is your friend…
Yes it is, I have it installed. It doesn’t stop the paywall though.
Check your settings. I can read it just fine but simply clicking the link. 🤷🏽♂️
Thank you! And oh man what joy to read!
He is largely expressionless, a glum look on his face, as “guilty” has just been heard 34 times.
Wonder what the sentencing will be. Can we remand to custody until then?
Fraud just has a nicer ring to it imo
Definitely an appeal incoming. No way it gets overturned before the election, right?
No, but if sentenced to prison, will he be imprisoned during the appeal? Or will they let him out on house arrest and allow him to campaign within the state?
Let us be happy for a day.
it definitely could
a new meaning to rule 34
AMA request: The person who will conduct the presentencing interview.
lock him up!
fast jury = guilty. w000t!
Unless youre OJ Simpson
This is only the tip of the iceberg. Trump is a fucking convicted felon and a serial rapist. Fuck him. Now on to sentencing.
There may have been some light treason also
I just about said “as long as there’s no barrotry” but I’m not 100% convinced he hasn’t done that now too…
Just a smidge.
Steady as a rock!
Who among us has never committed a tiny bit of light treason though…
“Real men wear diapers.”
Edit: typo
According to the posts, Trump supporters began to appear at rallies donning diapers and holding signs that said “Real Men Wear Diapers.” Some of them reportedly nicknamed the former president “Diaper Don,” and one woman wore a sweater that said “Diapers Over Dems.”
I’m glad to see the Snopes writers are having fun with it lol
I have a confession… I never said the Pledge of Allegiance. I always just mouthed watermelon and put my left hand over the wrong side… Republicans probably think I’m more treasonous than Trump.
I never did the pledge. In fact, I never bothered to learn it.
I’m a teacher and have to pretend to be a good boy during the daily pledge. I have kept this up since high school: I always pledge allegiance to the United Snakes of America, and.end with reminding myself that there is really only liberty and justice for the rich and famous.
I think it’s my bad memory of Jello Biafra’s remake
Edit: Words are hard.
nataku nox guilty on all count
It’s “Klaatu Verata Nektu”, you fool!
I said your damn words!
The sentence for him will likely be akin to a wrist slap.
I’m not so sure…
I went into this trial knowing that it was the least of Trump’s crimes and thinking that some brainwashed cultist would turn it into a hung jury. I was wrong, and instead we ended up with 34 consecutive guilty verdicts in less than 12 hours.
Now Trump is going to be sentenced by a judge who he has repeatedly called disgraceful and corrupt after weeks of sleep shitting through the trial. He has shown zero remorse and zero respect for the law. So other than the mythology of Teflon Don, why should the judge sentence him with anything less than he deserves?
Could be the initial breach in the dam. If this knocks Cannon off the bench, that classified docs case should be enough to bury him under the prison.
Dammit. My erection was just going down and now you gotta talk dirty like this?
And here I thought impeachment was the initial breach in the dam. All this guy’s political career, people have been assuring me “This is it, he’s toast.”
His cult still held sway during the impeachment, and they’d tied all their hopes to him.
They don’t still hold sway now?
In a sane world, between a boring white guy with mild accusations of not doing enough to stop a war, and a snake oil salesman promising to rip down transgender protections and murder his opponents, there should be absolutely no chance of the latter winning a single state. Half of America is still wrapped up in his damn cult.
He could run from prison, so there’s no deus ex machina here.
When November comes around Americans are either going to be smart enough to reelect Biden or stupid enough to let a convicted felon, serial rapist, election denying, wannabe dictator slob take over the most powerful nation on Earth.
I know what I’m doing. Let’s see if everyone else can pass the basic intelligence test known as “election 2024”.
Take a 5 min peruse of r/republican… I fear for all
How could this knock Cannon off the bench? I haven’t heard anything about that yet but if it’s a realistic possibility that’s a sweet ass cherry on top
So… is there a minimum sentence here? If so, what is it?
Judge set the sentencing hearing for July 11, so it’ll be a bit before we know the final details.
Right, but we should know just based on what laws he was found guilty of violating what the minimum sentences for violating them are (if there are minimums).
Probation/ community service up to 4 years per count
Edit: 4 years of jail, not community service
Good question. All I know is sentencing is set for July 11 at 10 a.m.
IANAL, but If I’m understanding this correctly, because he was found guilty of class E felonies, there is technically a minimum of 1 year in prison, but if the court:
is of the opinion that a sentence of imprisonment is necessary but that it would be unduly harsh to impose an indeterminate or determinate sentence, the court may impose a definite sentence of imprisonment and fix a term of one year or less.
Which seems like an alternative minimum. It seems like there will be additional evaluations as part of sentencing, which may or may not be postponed by appeals. He may get up to 4 years per count (which I’m assuming would be concurrent), maybe 1, maybe less if the court finds that it would be harsh to do so.
Even 1 would do so much to restore my faith in…so much.
But the dude is 10000% getting probation.
The system isn’t quite designed to do what many of us think it should do, but at times, it can get close.
Unfortunately, there’s a good chance you’re right, and this isn’t one of those times.
I hope I’m wrong! I really do.
Guilty on the first count.
Counts 2~10 guilty.
🧹🧹🧹
🤏🖐️👌 I tell ya folks we have the most perfect verdicts!!! Beautiful verdicts! 🖐️👌
Get fucked loser, CONVICTED FELON DONALD J TRUMP!!!
First time in history a candidate running for president can’t legally vote for themselves?
I bet some female ran prior to female suffrage.
kagis
Yeah.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victoria_Woodhull
Victoria Claflin Woodhull (born Victoria California Claflin; September 23, 1838 – June 9, 1927), later Victoria Woodhull Martin, was an American leader of the women’s suffrage movement who ran for president of the United States in the 1872 election. While many historians and authors agree that Woodhull was the first woman to run for the presidency,[2] some disagree with classifying it as a true candidacy because she was younger than the constitutionally mandated age of 35. (Woodhull’s 35th birthday was in September 1873, six months after the March inauguration.)
An activist for women’s rights and labor reforms, Woodhull was also an advocate of “free love”, by which she meant the freedom to marry, divorce and bear children without social restriction or government interference.[3] “They cannot roll back the rising tide of reform,” she often said. “The world moves.”[4]
Woodhull twice went from rags to riches, her first fortune being made on the road as a magnetic healer[5] before she joined the spiritualist movement in the 1870s.[6] Authorship of many of her articles is disputed (many of her speeches on these topics were collaborations between Woodhull, her backers, and her second husband, Colonel James Blood[7]). Together with her sister, Tennessee Claflin, she was the first woman to operate a brokerage firm on Wall Street,[8] making a second, and more reputable fortune.[9] They were among the first women to found a newspaper in the United States, Woodhull & Claflin’s Weekly, which began publication in 1870.[10]
Woodhull was politically active in the early 1870s when she was nominated as the first woman candidate for the United States presidency.[8] Woodhull was the candidate in 1872 from the Equal Rights Party, supporting women’s suffrage and equal rights; her running mate (unbeknownst to him) was abolitionist leader Frederick Douglass. Her campaign inspired at least one other woman – apart from her sister – to run for Congress.[8] A check on her activities occurred when she was arrested on obscenity charges a few days before the election. Her paper had published an account of the alleged adulterous affair between the prominent minister Henry Ward Beecher and Elizabeth Richards Tilton which had rather more detail than was considered proper at the time. However, it all added to the sensational coverage of her candidacy.[11]
Heh, and she was in trouble with the law in the runup to the election like Trump, too.
some female
you mean a woman?
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Sorry but what is “kagis”? I tried looking it up and found nothing.
“Searches using Kagi.” Like “googles” for “searches using Google”.
The search gone is called “Kagi”, so the action of using it was “kagis”
What is this “looking it up” you speak of? We only do googles and kagis and duckduckgos and altavistas
Funny enough, I tried DDG, then Google, then asked MS Copilot and then ChatGPT (both Bing). 😅
I suppose the only questions there are whether or not her state allowed women to vote for president, and whether or not a candidate who cannot legally hold the office counts (since she was under 35). Because it wasn’t just blanket illegal for women to vote prior to the 19th Amendment, it was up to the individual states and like anything up to the individual states it was all over the place depending on which state we’re talking about. For example, New Jersey allowed anyone who had the equivalent of 50 British pounds of wealth to vote regardless of sex (and there are recorded examples of women voting there) - at least until they embraced Jacksonian democracy and removed the wealth requirement and added a sex one. By the time the 19th Amendment passed, women could vote in at least some elections in most states.
I thought of that, but the first state to do so was well after her run.
https://www.history.com/news/the-state-where-women-voted-long-before-the-19th-amendment
When Wyoming sought statehood two decades after its historic vote, the territory’s citizens approved a constitution that maintained the right of women to vote. When Congress threatened to keep Wyoming out of the Union if it didn’t rescind the provision, the territory refused to budge. “We will remain out of the Union one hundred years rather than come in without the women,” the territorial legislature declared in a telegram to congressional leaders. Congress relented, and Wyoming became the first state to grant women the right to vote when it became the country’s 44th state in 1890.
The West continued to be the country’s most progressive region on full women’s suffrage. Colorado approved it in 1893, and Idaho did the same three years later. Congress had disenfranchised women along with outlawing polygamy in Utah in 1887, but women regained the right to vote when the territory became a state in 1896. After 1910, they were joined by Washington, California, Arizona, Kansas, Oregon, Montana, Nevada, Oklahoma, South Dakota and the territory of Alaska. (Even before the passage of the 19th Amendment, Montana elected a woman, Jeannette Rankin, to the U.S. House of Representatives in 1916.) According to the National Constitution Center, by 1919 there were 15 states in which women had full voting rights, and only two of them were east of the Mississippi River. The dozen states that restricted women from casting ballots in any election were primarily in the South and the East.
They passed a constitutional amendment in Florida to let felons vote, a couple years ago. The legislature tried to backpeddle it as much as they could in order to prevent black people from voting, but the main mechanism is forcing the felons to pay a bunch of money, which isn’t a problem for Trump.
Florida also defers to the voting rights in the state where the judgment happened for convictions outside of Florida. And New York lets felons vote. Therefore, Trump can vote in Florida under Florida election law.
There may be a component that felons have to have finished their sentence which could exclude Trump.
As long as he’s not incarcerated he can vote in NY
He’s a Florida resident though.
And Florida defers to the state where the conviction occurred. So Florida says he can vote in Florida if he can vote in NY.
The legislature tried to backpeddle it as much as they could in order to prevent black people from voting, but the main mechanism is forcing the felons to pay a bunch of money, which isn’t a problem for Trump.
To be exact, the “backpedaling” was that if the courts assigned you fines and prison time you had to complete both before you had “completed your sentence” and thus could vote.
I am going to be sad when I wake up.
Why?
