I recently set up Sonarr and Radarr on my home server and I’m loving it.

However, I don’t get why you would ever use Lidarr. Why would you ever download music using torrents? You can use tools like spotdl and yt-dlp to download songs from YouTube music and Spotify, it’s faster and more reliable; I have had some issues finding torrents of music from less-known artists.

To me it seems like it would be much better to have a tool like Lidarr or have support in Jellyseerr to download music from common streaming services.

What are your views on this?

  • Sabakodgo@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    Game or anime songs are often not available in their full versions on YouTube or Spotify. Also better sound quality.

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      I’ve also had issues with Lidarr not downloading anything - For example, I tried downloading music from the artist NF - which I don’t think is a particularly niche artist - but Lidarr didn’t download anything. What indexers do you use to download music?

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        I think you basically need a private tracker for lidarr. The arr suite is mostly targeted toward collecting media of a particular quality and will sit on its hands if what it finds doesn’t meet that standard

        Music is also not well represented in the public indexers, so it’s not surprising it doesn’t always find what you’re looking for

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        Personally I don’t download music. I rip my CDs but I do know that some streaming services don’t offer as high quality as CDs hence my comment.

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    • quality
    • organization of files
    • proper metadata
    • extras like photos/other images, lyrics, links, etc
    • community (on various torrent sites, mainly)
    • not being reliant on a company and centralized servers
    • someone paid for the album… band made more from that one sale than how many streams of it? Lol 😐
    • commands are crowding my CLI history. Lol

    It depends what it is and maybe I’m not savvy enough but, I find it easier to use bittorrent still.

    Some things are easier to find on YT or X streaming service so, I’d say multiple methods these days are necessarily depending on what one is into.

    To that end, I think we need to just reach out to bands and point them to a primer on uploading their music. Additionally, more people need to go to shows and start creating high quality torrents of smaller, more independant bands. As well as people creating torrents or torrent packs for the stuff that gets ripped from the other sources.

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        I see a lot of news of it “coming soon” and leaks, but not an official release. Do you have more info?

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          I will be surprised if Spotify won’t announce a new more expensive HIFI subscription with their support for lossless audio. Imo this still makes it less interesting than Tidal/Deezer/Qobuz since it’ll still be impossible to permanently download music from Spotify.

          Nonetheless it’s great that Spotify will provide lossless audio for those who want it.

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      Similar here, but I don’t do google and I hate Spotify lawl. I do download for my collection, but I’ve also subscribed to Apple Music because I don’t wanna fuck around with putting music on my phone, I mostly use my phone for podcasts.

      But I just for some headphones that use spatial sound and holy shit is that fantastic. I have like five nice pairs of open-back fancy headphones and now I’m using my probudz all the time because it makes your music sound 4.5D and you can look around if you want and it sounds like you’re at a concert

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        I’m in the market for fancy headphones. What do you recommend? I mostly listen to flac tracks ripped from CDs and also would use headphones for watching movies from Jellyfin. All done at home.

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          HEAVILY recommend Sennheiser HD560s.

          I love my Grados and other Sennheisers and I’ve tried some others that need amps, but I always come back to my 560s. They’re the best price for performance of all I own. If you’re patient, I got mine for 180USD.

          BUDGET? Looove my Grado SR80e. Under a hundred bucks for some REALLY nice sound quality.

          These are all open-back, so you’ll get a really good soundstage but they’re not great for loud environments. But damn do they sound good.

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            Perfect! This is exactly what I was looking for. I’ll pick up a pair of the HD560s when it goes on sale. Thank you so much for the recommendation!

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              Absolutely! I also love my pair of 599, they’re much less expensive retail but I can really feel the difference in the 560s (weirdly named, the 560s are superior). I think I paid 130 for the 599s.

              The 560s have slightly better sound quality but they feel much better to wear for long periods of time. That all said, the sound quality difference is very very small for flacs, so if you find a good deal on 599s and you’re not wearing them for 6-10 hours straight (which I sometimes do) then you can totally save the money.

              Both pairs don’t rest on your ears, and they both have ONE cord going to the left ear. My biggest complaints about my beloved Grados is they DO rest on your ears and they have cords going to both ears, which get all wound up and touch my chin/cheek which my ADHD ass does not appreciate the tactile…ness of.

              As an aside, my partner isn’t an audiophile and I had them listen to my favorite headphone-testing-song (Tipper’s “Cuckoo”) in flac, with my 560s. I started the song and they’re like “I’ve heard this song before” and by the end their eyes were DRIPPING. I never realized sound could be so… extradimensional, and it really hits goodly.

              Quick edit: oh and the Sennheisers have removable cords which can lock in, which is amazing because they come with a shorter cord and a LOOOOOONG cord you can switch out as you like.

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                  If you remember me, please let me know how you like them! And listen to cuckoo.flac and feel the little sizzles that tickle your ears and be like mmmmmm that’s some sizzles

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                It seems there’s a 560 and 560S, and they look very different from each other.

                Just to make sure, are you referring to the 560S, or the 560 in plural?

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    I mostly pirate for others to leech. Always my slsk is getting upwards of 40 users and 30MB/s upload. It is harder and harder to get packs, or music in general from private and not trackers. Redacted does not have everything, I love the idea of big repository of music and share upwards of 50TB on slsk. Lots of Dj’s, new producers and podcast use this stuff :) I pay for youtube premium, but never rip it, I almost always buy music I like trough Bandcamp if it is available.

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    I still burn CDs… my ancient vehicle has a multi-disc changer and doesn’t require my phone to be on, so I like having the best quality I can get before I do the burning.

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      I’ve been looking for one of those!

      Anyway, for $10-20 you can get any ol’ used car stereo from a junk yard that’ll work and have a 3.5mm aux port. You can even find some with USB and grab a dirt cheap 32GB nub/stick from Microcenter or wherever.

      After the initial setup, it’ll be easier and cheaper in the long run than buying CDs. Less wasteful, too. Plus, nobody’s gonna see a CD booklet and think they might be valuable and break into your car. Assuming you keep them in there.

      I’ve even seen USB stick mini booklets if you wanna load a bunch up with FLACs if your car system can tell the difference while cruisin’…

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    I personally don’t see a reason to torrent music when a simple download of a flac or something from yt if I can’t find it anywhere else is usually fine. But I will say I’m more likely to pirate music from large artists/companies because I don’t support large record companies and their shitty practices.

    Similar thing goes for things like Vocaloid, UTAU/OPENUTAU, Synthesizer V, DeepVocal, etcetera, songs because the majority of the time the songs I’m listening to don’t have an official download (or a link to a removed file) or way to get it through supporting the person who made them.

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    Because back when the only way to listen to new music was to buy it, then find out a load of it was absolute tripe, then not be able to take it back.

    So fuck 'em. I download first, then if I like it I buy it. There’s quite a few CDs on my shelf that I first pirated. And no CDs that are full of lame filler shite.

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    but to answer your question, I’ve heard audiophiles complain about the highest possible quality you can get from a YouTube rip. so, I’m assuming that some of the torrents out there are higher quality than what you can get from youtube

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      Pretty much this. I like to DJ, mostly a hobbyist over paying gigs these days, and have plenty of tunes ripped from the tube. Now I have the fun task of trying to replace everything with higher quality versions. Shitty rips are fine enough for a house party on a humble audio system, but proper venues with subs and high fidelity audio setup make it obvious you ripped from YouTube.

      In a perfect world I would love to buy what I use. Problem is I would need an insane budget to grab what I want. I listen to a lot of a music.

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    I never bought CDs to begin with because when I was little my dad pirated music and I followed his way. Then when YouTube was getting popular in the 2000s people uploaded music there and I never saw a reason to buy it.

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    I really don’t. I do have some of my favorites stored on my Plex server, but lately I’ve just been using a cracked version of the YouTube music app that lets you do all of the premium things without premium

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    if you’re an audiophile you can get flacs and stuff (but tbh I’d rather store my music in opus, flac just seems like a waste of space)

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    I’m tired of scrolling through my playlists and seeing “this track is unavailable”.

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    Show me a music store I can purchase music from on my phone through an app, and I’ll do it.