Just wondering what a rough split is of people using either Usenet, torrents, or both?
I’ve only just discovered Usenet and while it is paid, it is very cheap and much more convenient than torrents.
Using torrents as well with the *arr suite set up for my various Linux ISOs.
I started using Usenet about a year ago and much prefer it. Once you have you it set up it’s very straight forward to use, and means you don’t have to worry about maintaining your ratio, or making sure your vpn doesn’t drop out, or piratebay going down etc etc
20% torrent and 80% stremio with real debrid.
Stremio and RD is just so easy. Torrent for anything I really want to keep forever in very high quality.
Always went for the free option
Usenet can be as free as torrents though
Could you explain futhrer? I though that usenet was behind a paywall
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I think usenet users are a vocal minority.
It used to be the opposite. But the normies showed up and the fight club rules are out the window.
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100% Usenet here. Maybe I am basic, but it has everything I want and grabbing stuff is very easy.
Once in a great while I cannot find something and then I ask a friend to check his private trackers.
YMMV
I was an avid Usenet user, until torrents were invented.
I’ve never needed to go back.I used to when usenet was free from every single ISP, there was an active community behind every single alt.binaries.* group, and it wasn’t “subscribe to this usenet provider that gives you 5 years of posts from every group and you download things by this oversimplified NZB crap” instead of relying on and engaging with the community to post new and interesting things all the time.
I’m mostly downloading fairly recently released stuff, so there’s no shortage of torrents on public trackers.
I also don’t want any payment details associated with anything not explicitly legal, so that’d be a further deterrent from Usenet. Sure, I could use crypto, but even that links me to a wallet that might someday be traced back to me, so I’ll pass.
Wait, you have to pay for using Usenet?
Well since someone has to host the data, someone needs to pay for it :P
It’s funny you put it that way, because torrents are based fundamentally on the idea of freely hosting the data so nobody has to pay to access it.
Torrents are based on the idea that everyone using them pays for it with their bandwidth and hardware cost. Except for those leechers who don’t share.
I’m paying more for my seedbox than for my usenet subscription. If I used my own hardware I’d pay with stress on my hardware, e.g. the disks aging and failing earlier because of seeding. The power consumption is also not negligeble, altough the server is also used for other purposes.
With private trackers this idea of an equal exchange is more obvious because of ratio requirements.
You pay for traffic. There are some free versions out there, but they limit you to 10-25 GB or something. Might be an option for the 1% you can’t find on public trackers.
I have wondered this as well. Seems like it is pretty linked.
Tbf, Usenet and indexers are strictly speaking, legal.
Right, but whatever I’m doing on there really isn’t.
As a matter of fact my current jurisdiction doesn’t even pursue copyright infringements, but I still don’t want to be linked to anything commonly seen as shady.
Fair enough, I was under the impression that if you are using SSL, all an ISP or VPN provider could see is that you are connected to whichever backbone provider you were connected to. I.e. The content of what you are downloading is encrypted.
You could be downloading stuff that is not illegal, and I don’t think that is necessarily knowable by anyone except yourself.
I may be way off here, I’m not an IT person, but that was my understanding of SSL.
I’d say as a general rule any encryption can be cracked, but usually it is not worth the time and effort to do so.
This is incorrect. What you’d are doing while purely downloading is legal.
Bit torrent exposes you to liability not because you are downloading but because you’re sharing which courts have decided is distributing/performing, no matter how small the block you upload.
This is not an issue with Usenet.
I have no idea what to do or how to even get started with Usenet, so I just use a VPN and torrent as needed.
I am also in that basket. To me Usenet seems like another, older protocol that achieves practically the same thing. If someone is more knowledgeble, feel free to correct me or explain further.
Both. I tend to let the -arr apps decide.
Usenet here. 4 paid indexers and the Usenet sub. Still cost less in a year than cable or streaming services cost in a month. Get everything I want and look for easily.
I pay for one Usenet provider/indexer. I also still use tons of torrent sources.
90% of the time, stuff that I’m monitoring gets downloaded via Usenet for currently airing or rather new shows.
50% of the time when actively looking for stuff from the past 5-10 years I use Usenet, the other half is torrents
90% of stuff older than that, I only find torrents
100% of non-English stiff I get from torrents (I’m subscribed to an English Usenet indexer though, so that tracks).
In short: Why not use both?
Do things on usenet get purged? Would you expect the stuff showing up today to still be accessible in 5-7 years?
Yes, they do!! With torrents, it just takes a single seeder to keep the torrent alive, but Usenet isn’t peer to peer - you’re downloading stuff from a centralized server(s), and they simply cannot keep everything alive forever.
IMO it’s fine though. Usenet provides you with very timely access to all the “newest” stuff, in excellent, very consistent quality.
And for older stuff, there’s torrents.
Even without seeders, you can sometimes be lucky and resurrect old torrents that have been kept in cache by providers such as real debrid
Usenet provides you with very timely access to all the “newest” stuff, in excellent, very consistent quality.
So do some encoders and web-rippers.
And usually Usenet does lend quite a bit of releases you usually see on private indexers or some publics.
I tried it but TBH went back to torrents. I found it to be very fiddly to get working, every single component seems to want you to pay for it (and not wanting to pay for and keep track of half a dozen streaming things is one of the main draws for piracy for me anyway) and overall it just didn’t seem worth it to find the ~1% of things I can’t find on torrents (and I didn’t even find all of them on Usenet either.)
Other people’s mileage may vary of course, but I didn’t really think it was worth it.
Soulseek, anyone? I only ever do books and music, and Soulseek has everything I need
