A heartfelt “fuck you” to everyone who told me I was overreacting in July of 2016.
I actually blame myself for all of this, after Barry(who is still pretty problematic) got reelected in 2012 I kinda figured that eventually all the bullshit would work itself out and stopped paying too much attention to politics. Then the history major in me woke up in that July and now realize I must be forever vigilant
In a history perspective, how do we get out of this?
Messaging to help people who will never grasp sarcasm, or two step instructions, stop falling for talking points you disagree with by feeding them talking points you agree with. There aren’t any billionaires paying to make large font easily digested liberal talking points and talking head blather that presents a liberal view, because they disagree, so the counter balance dosen’t exist.
Lose a world war.
Against who, though? Europe isn’t going to fight us. Russia is a joke. If China won that war (far from guaranteed), the world order that settled in wouldn’t be any better.
I’ve gone back and forth on this for a decade in my head, I’m more or less convinced a schism is coming in the form of asymmetrical civil conflict. I pray that it won’t ever come to that because it would be the most deadly conflict in the history of humanity once other powerful countries become involved and it escalates to WW3.
The unfortunate truth one learns when studying history is that no one in a position of has ever learned a positive lesson from our past and take the action to avoid the mistakes the next time around
The schism is already here. Just look at the reaction to the New York fraud trial verdict. The rest of us are in denial, pretending that it won’t escalate from what is just words now, but that’s the way it always starts, no?
Oh I 100% agree that a worldview schism is already present, in many ways we’re already in the prelude. Robert Evans called this period the Crumbles in the original season of It Could Happen Here, which I think is the most reasonable prediction for how things will unfold
Humans don’t learn shit, so we don’t.
With persistence and vigilance.
Vote, rally, riot, and let no nazi go unpunched.
Yeah that would have been a better one.
Remember those first 90 days or so when Republicans were dead convinced that Trump was going to pivot at any moment and start acting more presidential?
Yeah, they gave up on that eventually and moved the goalposts, as usual.
Guys! He’s just acting retarded to appeal to us retards! He’ll be presidential once he’s in the white house!
I don’t think they even realized how idiotic they were being.
I just hate how short lived people’s memory is… After W there shouldn’t have been a Republican president for the next 50 years… Yet people forgot after 8…now it seems even worse because you’ve got morons on here already bOtH sIdInG like the fucking orange traitor never happened.
My face is stuck in a permanent “YOU DENSE MOTHERFUCKER” meme because of these people.
People really enjoy discarding reality to make themselves feel better.
The latest dense motherfucker moment is all people right now who think Trump’s conviction means he will go to prison and they won’t have to worry about voting in November.
I’ve been called a nazi repeatedly for explaining that while the fantasy might make us all feel better, the reality is no judge on EARTH would condemn a geriatric, senile, ex-president to die in prison, to think nothing of the complications of things like Secret Service. “FuCk yOu FaSciSt!” they reply.
A strange day when you get called a fascist for encouraging center and left wing turnout to an election.
The worst part is those SAME people are claiming we are overreacting about the real chance he wins again…
Not me. I was a myopic “you are overreacting” person in 2016. I didn’t like Hillary, but I also didn’t think DT would win, and if he did I didn’t think he would be much worse, just bad in different ways.
I admit that I was shortsighted, uninformed, and completely wrong. On the upside, I pay way more attention than I used to, and I have been disabused of my notion that nothing would ever change (for better or worse) as a result of the pendulum of politics.
Them in 2016: “He’s not LITERALLY a fascist”
Them in 2024: “Okay he’s openly announcing his intent to be a dictator and get rid of the ‘others’ who are ‘poisoning our blood’, but unless it’s from the Bavarian area of Germany, it’s just sparkling authoritarianism. Besides, Biden is just as bad!”
The Bavarian area of Germany?
Hitler was Austrian and at least in Germany people use this saying with Italian Mussolini style fascism
It’s just a skooch of humor, not an academic treatise.
Oh, I see you’re in Germany. Well, that probably didn’t come across the same as it did here. Sorry - carry on.
Bavaria is the Texas of Germany; the only state most foreigners know of.
Maybe a reference to the München putsch?
Most people know the geography of your home like you know the geography of theirs: not really.
I don’t live in a swing state, my hands were tied.
How’d your downballot do?
Rock solid Democrat state here. Had a few nuts in local elections but kept firmly in check.
I don’t live in a swing state, my hands were tied.
Damn election process in USA is kinky.
This memory was made possible by donations from the DNC
But she was right about everything!
The part that really hurts is that it seems like the Democrats are setting themselves up to do it again.
Liberalism, by definition, is a set of values that maintains that all social and political problems can be addressed via existing power structures and systems.
The current democratic party is about as liberal as they come, with many bordering on neo-liberal, which is just a new way to say “old fashioned republican.”
They may look neutered and impotent and terrible at planning, but they’re right where they want to be. They maintain power but can also use the excuse of not being able to get past Republican obstructionism so that’s why they haven’t pushed major political reform.
The system is only broken for those it’s not benefitting directly.
(You don’t have to like them, but you need to vote for them right now because I rather have a grifters in charge than evil grifters who want to bring about the dark-ages all over again.)
I wouldn’t say she was right about anything other than calling trump supporters deplorables
https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/11/02/clinton-brazile-hacks-2016-215774/
She was right he was Putin’s puppet.
She was right he was going to give away tons of tax money to the ultra wealthy
She was right he didn’t know shit about foreign policy
She was right he’s a demented rapist
She was right about so much more than his idiot cult were deplorable.
Was she right to convince trump to run?
Absolutely not, no, but neoliberals tend to blame other people for that and everything else she’s ever done wrong or wrongly neglected to do.
That’s hardly fair. They blame only those to their left.
Not necessarily. Just the other day, I got in an argument with one who solely blamed Wasserman-Schulz (who rightly deserves SOME of the blame) for the DNC screwing over Bernie, even though it was at the behest of the Clinton campaign, which was DE FACTO in charge of the DNC at the time 🤦
But she was right about everything!
Except the bit about assuming she could easily beat trump.
You got the joke!
And voters like you,
Thank you.
Me in 2016: “Weeeeelp I guess we’ll see if these checks and balances work”
Me in 2024: “Somehow I’m still not sure”
Them in 2016: Institutions will save us!
Them in 2021: inchoate screaming
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Imagine getting put into a coma at the end of 2015 and waking up going online. You have to contend with the fact that yes, Trump for president was real, that people voted for him, that he is running for his second term and its an inconsecutive term. And that is all shit related to the elections nothing about 1/6, covid or ukraine.
1/6?
January 6.
Holy shit those pictures just pissed me off again.
Me too. It’s important to remember them though as there is so much propaganda everywhere (“they were just tourists!”). We all saw it happen and it’s not unlikely that they will try this sort of thing again. Stay angry my friend.
Is he finally your president?
A heartfelt “fuck you” to everyone.
i agree with you, but thats quite a petty thing to say.
Stop spreading hate, it helps no one.
I took election day off and went to see Dr. Strange. I had been waiting 33 years for that movie so it is no surprise that it was a disappointment. Then, to see the exit polling was like a stab to the heart. What a crappy day.
whaaa you didnt like dr strange? its one of my favorites of the mcu
“Mister Doctor!!”
“It’s Strange”
yes it is
“Maybe. But who am I to judge?”
Such an underutilized character, shame they killed him off.
Does he say maybe or perhaps? I always forget.
I love the movie and I loved the villain. It really is a shame he was just killed.
When he saw the Ancient One and just screamed “Hypocrite!” with absolute venom, I was hooked.
Agreed. Tilda Swinton killed her role but Madds stole the show. Honestly they had such killer talent amongst all the major roles and it really popped off so well.
I’m not familiar with (I’m guessing) american politics can someone give me a short summary?
Yeah but watching the President have a twitter spat with Kim Jong Un was pretty funny.
He fixed it all when he saluted their soldiers!
I was about 30% convinced that that Twitter feud was going to lead to North Korea firing nukes at the US. Trump just wouldn’t shut his mouth and I was freaking out.
North Korea firing nukes at the US.
Fair, but also North Korea has demonstrated they can’t even reliably hit Japan (or at least they couldn’t at the time) so I don’t think we had much to worry about.
Did they ever try to hit Japan? Wouldn’t that basically be a declaration of war?
Agreed. I didn’t find it funny, I found it terrifying. World leaders behaving like literal children.
Crap. You just made me realize that it is kind of a good thing that Trump refuses to antagonize Putin. If he had that kind of spat with Putin, we might have seen nukes exchanged in some proxy country.
Sorry proxy country. Fuck these “strongmen” dictators, and wannabe dictators.
Trump’s a bitchboy but so is Putler. Nothing would have happened.
