I can hear that picture
I hang out with many queer and poly people that this didn’t even seem unusual. Sometimes I forget how basic and unexamined most people’s relationships are.
Kind of a missed opportunity to examine other relationship models, but can’t have everything.
I liked it. I think its sweet. They can still be besties (best friends) because they realize they aren’t compatible romantically. I think its a sweet comic ❤️
People are getting way too weird about this post. Sure, the decision seems kinda flippant but sometimes that’s how life is. It’s also a short comic. I kinda relate as a gay man because when I got married to the love of my life, I felt like it was a permanent decision and I stressed out about it big time. When I talked to my then boyfriend about it, he seemed so unworried about it and made me realize that if we needed to get divorced, it wasn’t the end of the world. We respect each other enough to be able to communicate our needs and work things out. People in the comments here making out like divorce is inherently tragic and should be avoided at all costs. The connection that you have with and individual that you love transcends that.
Alright… So lesbian relationship. One of them decides they’re not a woman anymore. They both decide to devorce…
Maybe I’m missing something, but is there supposed to be a joke somewhere in here?
Their mutual regard for one another transcends what they want from the relationship, which contrasts humourously with hetero norms of trying to change one other to get what you want
Ok, but… That’s not something that’s funny.
It would work in a greater narrative, perhaps, where we as readers know the characters. Not this one off thing.
Not every joke is gonna be for you, don’t worry about it
Being selfish is hetero normative? I’m probably being defensive but this feels like a weird statement to make.
It’s societally normative, as is heterosexuality. Correlative, not causative.
I’m here as a het to tell you that the gays do laugh at us, and it’s fine
So stereotyping is suddenly okay if the gays are the ones doing it?
If your jokes made around stereotypes in queer communities are offending people the jokes are probably just veiled insults. You can do things, you just need to be at least a little versed in the community and understand how to make respectful jokes instead of demeaning ones.
Or some queer people are too sensitive. Some people live to get offended, they choose to get offended about damn near everything everyone says.
Yeah it’s weird how people holding bigoted views are also often easily offended. People are people ig…
Please understand the difference between punch-down and punch-up comedy on your own time.
As long as they stereotyping gayness and they are gay it kinda seems ok. Laughing about your self is okay i think
The humor for me is that you kind of expect something like this to end in bitter tears and a sad goodbye, but they’re both actually totally fine with a divorce and even hype each other up for new relationships.
A lot of trans discovery/coming out stories don’t end very happily, so it’s nice to see one that does.
Also, it’s a comic strip, which does not necessarily mean there is a joke.
Brenda Starr and Mark Trail were goddamn laugh riots.
This isn’t the “jokes” community, it’s the “comic strips” community
I feel like the fourth panel is what throws me off and left me scratching my head. Based on the previous one I’d imagine both of them to hype each other up, not just the man saying his former wife is single.
(from the link)
I thought the comic was wholesome.
But they’re claiming that if they stop being funny, they’ll die. Was this supposed to be funny?
Artists are funny like that
They’re not a man, man.
IMO: Driver - former gay/female feels Identity is more “boy” now so gender and sexualities don’t line up (straight/male with gay/female).
Gay female partner is now free to pursue children with another gay/female and former partner announces that.
Please pardon my wording, I’m trying but I’m not confident in my wording.
The comic makes sense to me if the driver is not identifying as a trans man while the passenger is a lesbian. It doesn’t make sense to me if they’re nonbinary or any other form of gender queer. I say this as someone whose spouse has come out of nonbinary and have friends whose spouses have come out as nonbinary. It doesn’t feel “divorce worthy” to me. To be honest, I don’t view your partner coming out as trans as being “divorce worthy” but I would at least understand an amicable split. It feels enbyphobic to split because they’re nonbinary.That’s why I interpret it at the driver being a man, because the comic makes more sense that way to me and it feels, to me, maybe a little bigoted otherwise. But I say that with a grain of salt because I’m not sure if the comic is meant to be like a joke or a story or even biographical of the author’s own life. Not sure if that makes sense lol.The comic is biographical of the author’s life. Also the extra panel clearly addresses everything.
I read the extra and don’t get it but it’s probably not intended for me. I’m happy people are happy.
It says the driver is open to dating all genders. So only the wife doesn’t lineup here.
Reverse U-Haul uno card.
Forgive my ignorance, but what exactly is a boy side of the spectrum? I’m not familiar with the phrase.
It means they are transgender and possibly non-binary and identify as more masculine than feminine. So they are closer to “guy” than “girl” (but might identify as neither).
🤣🤣🤣
This would have been easier to follow if they kept the same outfits throughout the comic.
It took me a second to work out who was who in the last panel.
There’s a weird feel from this comic for me. I’m glad that these two people could have an amicable divorce. I think the thing that feels off is how casual the decision feels in the comic. I suspect this might be why some people are having a negative reaction as well.
Even if you think marriage isn’t forever, it’s still a promise to love and care about someone, to cherish them and share your life with them. I think if you’ve been in a marriage and seen your loved one through hard times together, this comic just feels capricious. A discussion about ending such an important component of your life happening in the span of two panels in a car ride just feels abrupt and unserious.
I imagine in real life the conversation was more serious and the impact of changing you relationship from one of romantic love to friendship weighed on both parties more than the comic has space to show.
If you’ve loved and supported your spouse through difficult and unexpected change or been the recipient of that love and support, this comic can feel dismissive. If you’ve gone through the heartache of losing your special person, even if they are still a part of your life, the celebratory tone sounds wrong.
I am happy that they can separate and still care about each other, but I also understand why people feel like something is wrong about the comic.
Sometimes big life decisions come easy. Sometimes small life decisions come hard (no double entendre intended). As long as they’re both on the same page when it comes to commitment, hopefully the concerns you mentioned don’t apply to them and we can feel happy about it as a third-party spectator.
I liked that about the comic.
Our society has adopted this expectation that once a relationship has turned into love, it must remain that, and if its not eternal soul mates in total devotion, it’s not true love. You’re not allowed to dial it down, take a break from it or return to being friends, or it’s a “failed” relationship.
The message of the comic subverts this, showing that without such baggage, you could just change the relationship to something else and still be happy.
Instead, we assume from the beginning that the relationship is forever, throw our households together, and when the point would be right to return to normal friendship, we force ourselves to stick close until we can’t stand each other anymore.
The comic isn’t talking about love, it’s talking about marriage.
I’ll preface this with the fact that I’m a straight male atheist, and I’m married. My wife and I have had rough patches, as every relationship does, but I made a commitment to her. I swore an oath that I would support her through whatever happens in this life. I didn’t swear this to God or anybody but her and myself.
I’m a very principled person, one of those principles is that if you say you’re going to do something, you should try your level best to do it until it becomes clear it’s not possible. I don’t make promises I don’t expect to keep.
The thing that strikes me as off about this comic is the fact that they are married. If they’d just been partners, then that’s one thing, there’s less commitment there. But marriage is a commitment to a person. It’s not a promise to having sex or feeling romantic every single day, but just a promise that you’ll be there with them during the good times and the bad times. That you’ll support them in what they want to do. There’s no need for these people to divorce if one of their sexualities is changing, because marriage isn’t about the sex.
If my wife told me out of the blue that she thought she was interested in women, or might be trans, I would never offer divorce first. We’d have a conversation about what that means for our romantic relationship, but I still respect and care for her as a person, and would feel like I’m failing as a husband if I wanted to cut and run during a hard transition like that. I made a commitment to her, and if that’s what she wants to do, then I’ll ride it out and make sure she has as many resources as she can for a major change like that, and I know she’ll do the same thing for me. Hard times and changes don’t mean the end of a marriage, it means it’s time to buckle down, come together with your partner, and come up with a plan on how to face it together.
I also respect that nuance like that is impossible to fit into a single page comic like this, and there does seem to be that message of supporting your partner in their decisions. I just have issue with the flippant call for divorce. Relationships and people do change, and it’s good to talk about that and acknowledge that that we should support people when they change, but divorcing them is not supporting them. The comic would have been just as good if they left out the panel about divorce and just went to “my wife is single” because an open marriage is still a valid marriage, it just means you’re not devoting your genitals to one person.
I agree with you that our society puts a lot of importance on love, maybe too much. I’ll always love my wife, eventually. Believe me, marriage is hard, you’re not gonna feel the warm fuzzies every day, or maybe even every week, but the point is that you try. I promised myself to her because I love her. But my takeaway is that I loved her so much for years, that I promised I would always be there for her even if we’re both sick, or I’m mad at her for something, or if she’s changing as a person, and she promised the same thing. That commitment is more important than the love, because love is temperamental. You marry someone because you love them so much, you promise to be there even when you may not be feeling that love.
I’m a gay guy and I was in a relationship with someone for 10 years who came out as transgender and it ended our romantic/sexual relationship, though we’re still best friends and still live together even. If you haven’t experienced it I don’t really think you can understand how it feels to have a relationship end in this way - not because you stopped loving eachother or because you argued or anything like that, but just because someone’s gender identity or sexuality changed.
It’s sad, yes, but it’s also kind of happy, because you want your partner to self-actualise and become the person they truly want to be.
I’m assuming this scenario happened to someone in the real world, and I don’t think you should be telling them that they’re basically wrong for feeling this way about it.
whomesome comic
Lemmy: where’s the joke tho?Very nice though, amicable breakups/divorces are good.
really shit
They start discussing how to split their assets and suddenly it becomes less peaceful
That’s amazing someone did that, and now we know they were all worthless anyway so it was even more ridiculous.
My brain hurts
Tossing relationships like this away is a sign of narcissism. It’s fine to move on but it’s definitely maladapted to be giddy about it.
Amicable divorces are narcissistic?
I see you didn’t read my post.
I literally did. I don’t see why you’d believe people have to mournful about an amicable divorce or why that would be narcissistic otherwise.
They said “tossing away relationships like this is narcissistic” not “amicable divorce is bad”.
But the way this relationship is ending is amicable divorce lol.
The way this relationship is ending is throwing away a relationship. The divorce method is irrellevant.
The author specifically stated they’re still close friends. So they’re still in a relationship. Again, how is this narcissistic?
I’m still confused here, what’s the difference?
The difference is having a relationship with the strength of a wet noodle and celebrating it.
Why should you have to be miserable about it? They still have a relationship, it’s just no longer a romantic one.
You don’t have to be miserable, but the misery from leaving someone you love, even if it’s 1000% mutual and friendly is not really a choice, but a natural and healthy emotional reaction.
Sure, but it’s not the only valid response. It’s perfectly natural to be upset when a relationship falls apart, but it’s just as natural to mutually decide things aren’t working out and move on without grief or regret.
“Several months ago” … Not exactly suggesting it would happen over night. Recognizing a schism and supporting eachother through the changes in life is preferable to doing so depressed and hatefully, no?
