For those unfamiliar, GrapheneOS is a privacy and security enhanced custom ROM endorsed by Snowden. Despite these big names, plenty of people give it backlash

Even @TheAnonymouseJoker@lemmy.ml gives it backlash despite being a moderator of Lemmy’s biggest privacy community. A quote here: “grapheneOS trolls are downvoting every single post and comment of mine, and committing vote manipulation on Lemmy. They are using 5-6 accounts.” That was in response to downvotes on a comment posted in the c/WorldNews community, which is entirely unrelated to technology.

One of the reasons is that GrapheneOS can only be installed on Google Pixels due to security compatibility, which makes complete sense considering Android should be most compatible with Google’s own devices. GrapheneOS even lists the exact reasons they chose Pixels, and encourage people to step up and manufacture a different supported device.

One year ago, Louis Rossmann posted this video outlining his reasons for deleting GrapheneOS. Mainly, he had multiple bad experiences with Daniel Micay (the founder and main developer of GrapheneOS) which put his distrust in the GrapheneOS project. Since then, he has stepped down and will no longer be actively contributing to the project.

So, I am here to learn why exactly people still do not like GrapheneOS.

  • Hugh_Jeggs@lemm.ee
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    2 months ago

    You know how if you open any comment thread about Windows and 50% of the comments are smug, self-congratulary wanks saying “Just use Linux”?

    Yeah mate, I’ve actually got a job, I don’t have time to Google how to get my graphics card to work every fuckin day, but I do have the brains to bypass everything shitty about Windows.

    Open any thread about Android OS and replace the word “Linux” with “Graphene”

    It’s not the OS people hate, it’s the users who can’t accept that both these OSs are only suitable for about 5% of the population

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      2 months ago

      There are stable distros that just work™. In the end, you need a certain amount of knowledge for both Windows and Linux, and even then, I can recognise that Linux isn’t universally suitable at the moment. I can easily do everything I need for work on it, but I’m a software dev. Friends who are artists can’t, sice the tools they need just don’t exist on Linux, and are difficult to get to run in tools like Wine.

      The stability argument is a bit of a low hanging fruit though, especially if you simultaneously point at working around Windows issues, which most of the population probably doesn’t want to learn doing either.

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        2 months ago

        just work™

        [Citation needed], let’s be honest here. There are an infinite amount of use cases causing an infinite amount of problems, far far far more than on Windows, even after all these years

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          2 months ago

          Well, it works for me and the people I have set it up for, which of course isn’t necessarily applicable to other people’s usecases.

          I think I was mainly a bit miffed about your I use Windows because I actually need to get work done line because it felt like the same smug attitude you had been criticising. We all need to recognise that out experiences aren’t universally applicable.

          We do have quite a few Linux evangelists on the platform, but i feel that’s kinda inherent to where lemmy as a platform came from. I think they are a bit silly, but making that a reason to not like a whole OS or ROM seems equally silly.

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            2 months ago

            felt like the same smug attitude you had been criticising

            Show me single thread about Linux where someone says “Just use windows”

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              2 months ago

              The same attitude, not the same words. Both “I use Linux, that makes me better”, and “I use Windows because I actually need to get work done” seem rather smug to me.

              It could of course be “I use Windows for my needs, but recognise that other might be happier with a different experience”, but to me it feels like “I am a serious adult, and they are not.”

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      2 months ago

      It’s not a good analogy. A better analogy might be a community that promotes a Linux distro that runs exclusively on Chromebook and claims that that is the ONLY private and secure way to use a computer.