• SuddenDownpour@sh.itjust.works
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    25 days ago

    The growth of the far right isn’t that terrible on a vacuum, since it’s just a small growth anyway. The real bad news is this:

    https://www.euronews.com/my-europe/2024/05/14/possible-to-cooperate-with-some-far-right-personalities-says-charles-michel

    This is, traditional conservative parties starting to talk about cooperation with the far right, rather than with centrists. If you thought far right euroskeptics were cringe, just you wait to see the far right that wants to remodel the EU to their taste - and are capable of passing reforms.

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    24 days ago

    Young voters did this, ironically enough, according to BBC World News. Young people struggling to get jobs after graduation think that right wing parties will fix that.

    So as older generations are trying not to hand-off a burning planet to the young, the young are signing up for a burning planet under some delusion that right wingers will get them jobs. Schools have apparently failed to teach kids that the jobs they get under conservative governance are shit jobs – lousy pay and lousy benefits.

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      24 days ago

      The Nazi Party’s popularity increased in the early 1930s partly because of its pledge to do what no other political party had been able to accomplish: pull Germany out of the Great Depression and put Germans back to work.

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      Most likely because they’re at the bottom of the list and the seat color follows the same order

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          Derp… maybe I should have taken another look at the picture before commenting. I think my brain just picked out yellow near the top of the list and yellow a few colors from the left and went “sure that’s the same order”

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      25 days ago

      What unsettles me that the EPP plus everything right of it have a majority. The right have a majority in the parliament, and the EPP’s centrism is the only think saving us from it.

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      25 days ago

      And those are just the party coalitions, where the different national parties that are sent from all 27 countries form groups based on common agendas

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      While I am all for laughing at the 'Muricans for making themselves out to be the prime democratic nation on the planet while having the choice between a conservative and an ultra-conservative party only, this time, we cannot indulge in this kind of thing to feel superior. We need to make sure we actually stay superior now, which… isn’t a given anymore.

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      25 days ago

      As a latent American, apparently, I also struggle to make sense of it (I’m planning to research those parties, but haven’t gotten to it yet)

      Also, naming of parties seems often misleading, maybe even on purpose

      Could you recommend some resources I can use for a crash course on who’s who in EP, or maybe someone can summarise the projected results and what are the expected problems?

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        Traditionally, the EU has been governed by an informal coalition of the two largest groups/parties, centre-right EPP and centre-left S&D, both being pro-EU. After the last election where they underperformed, they were joined by the third largest group, centrist, pro-EU Renew.

        This election, pro-EU groups collectively have lost a lot of seats while right-wing EU-sceptic groups gained seats. The most radical of these groups, ID, made the biggest gains. This will make coalition building and therefore governing way more complicated.

        European parties are alliances of national parties from various member states. Those representatives elected to the European Parliament for the national parties form so called groups. Typically, these groups correspond to the European parties. Usually, it makes more sense to talk about the groups rather than the parties.

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        These political groups are formed by members elected by national voters. A group can be formed as long as they have at least 25 members from at least one quarter of EU countries. They’re pretty much analogous to a party, they work in broadly the same way. In the Image above they’re broadly organised from Left to Right politically:

        The LEFT group is, well, pretty left. They include Communists and Socialists, and in their own way can be a bit eurosceptic, although they typically want to reform or replace the EU rather than just disbanding it.

        The GREENS are also pretty left, with a focus on Climate, Animal Rights, Income Equality, Feminism, that sort of thing. They are generally pro-Europe.

        The S&D group are center left. Members tend to be from say, the Labour party of various countries. They want things like fairer employment and more regulated market. They were the largest party in the EU until 1999, now the second largest.

        RENEW are Center, pretty Liberal (in the Phil Ochs sense). They’re pro-business and want a strong economy, but they at least talk up things like civil rights and social welfare (I don’t know enough about them to judge how well they do in practise). They’re very pro-EU, and have billed themselves as ‘the Pro-European political group’.

        The EPP are center-right, pretty conservative. Lots of ‘Christian Democratic’ representation. Neoliberal, want more defence spending, pro-Europe, pro-Ukraine. They say they’re focused on the climate, but the Greens say that that’s a lie. They’ve been the biggest group since 1999.

        The ECR calls itself center-right (but is really a bit right-er), and ‘soft-eurosceptic’. This Eurosceptism is their main thing: They support the idea of the EU, so they say, but they want to prevent it from going ‘too far’, with too much oversight, integration, and immigration. Some members are your standard conservative types, some are far-right.

        The ID group is far-right. They don’t like the EU, and are opposed to it interfering with the ‘sovereignity’ of States. Anti-immigration, anti-‘islamisation’, pro-nationalism.

        Nonaligned (technically ‘non-inscrits’) are just that - they haven’t joined with any of the above blocs.

        These projected results broadly show increased support for the right over the left, but more sharply show gains for the Eurosceptic ID and Non-Inscrits (who often are Eurosceptic, but not always and I don’t actually know the individual cases here) at the expense of the pro-EU Greens and Renew. So it doesn’t look great for fans of the European Left.

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          Thanks, it looks like the right are really on the rise as of lately, I heard about this happening in the Netherlands, in Spain, now the EP :(

          Also, I hope we’re not going to see another Brexit(s), especially considering how the UK citizens seem now to think it was a mistake

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            25 days ago

            Portugal is also sending for the first time our dear fascists to the europe. It’s all imploding in our lifetimes.

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    25 days ago

    And now the right will go and ignore the migration issue (as solving it will cost them votes) and go ahead and make other shit right wing policy.

    Farmers that do not grow crops for direct human consumption should not get subsidies.

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        Oh they absolutely could and would but they know “solving” it would expose them for the fascists they are (case in point there have been several “isolated cases” of AfD politicians behind closed doors literally demanding migrants be shot at the borders)

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    25 days ago

    I’m an American, can somebody explain what this means? It looks less dysfunctional, but I’m guessing it’s just differently dysfunctional.

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      It’s far from perfect, but the European parliament is vastly more functional than the American Congress, just based on the amount of legislation that is crafted, compromised on, and passed. These laws, which have to be adopted by all the countries in the EU, are the most prosocial and environmental in the world.

      With these elections increasing the size of conservative coalitions, there will be more of a push against things like green regulations, immigration quotas, and support for Ukraine.

      More conservatives are being elected because right-wing nationalist/populist parties across Europe are fanning the flames of anti-immigrant hate, the burden of inflation, and EU regulations that might squeeze the ability of farmers (or other laborers) to make a profit, in order to sell their Make (insert country name here) Great Again rhetoric and whatever religious/corporate/fascist power dynamics that rhetoric conceals.

    • SuddenDownpour@sh.itjust.works
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      The 8 groups of colors you see on the graph are actually dozens and dozens of parties who group themselves into more compact coalitions depending on their broad ideology. This is actually no issue to get shit done and pass plenty of legislation.

      What we actually don’t like is that the far right groups (Conservatives and Reformists, and Identity and Democracy, and a third secret option) are growing even a little bit more, which increases the possibility of them actually passing the laws they want.

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    I don’t know about EU politics but how are conservatives reformists? (I should mention that I am honestly asking)

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      Comedic answer: In the same way, “Republicans” are standing for “State’s Rights” instead of the rights of the Federal Republic: By name only. Real answer: It’s all around the idea that to keep the EU “in check” and nation states sovereign (which is their main deal, aside from ‘controlled immigration’ as they call their specific flavor of Xenophobia), the EU needs to be reformed into a more powerless organization basically.

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    Can we take a moment to consider that everything is the fault of the Italians. The Italians, and only the Italians:

    Why the hell are your polling stations open until 23:00? Who the hell votes at that time? Is it one of those “not cappuccino after 11 – no voting before dusk” kind of superstitions? You’re the reason we don’t have proper projections yet!

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      Considering the next elections one should form a national party to expand pause times to multiple hours as well, so that we can bear 35 degree celcius in april 2029.

      Either spains siesta approach or adapting italias layed-back attitude both sounds promising!!

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        Then vote after your morning espresso!

        Or like me: Go to vote whenever, visit the Italian ice cream parlour on the way back.

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        I was just in Rome, and when I started getting hungry there was still an hour left until most restaurants even opened (19:30). Pure insanity to my Scandinavian habits.

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          24 days ago

          I was in Stockholm and I felt horribly when I started feeling hungry and I noticed restaurants were already closing 😂

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        We’re already done counting. They’re actively not updating the results because the Italians can’t be bothered to vote during daytime. On a Sunday.

        EDIT: State results are in. Well, almost completely.

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    We’re speedrunning the collapse of civilization. And people are only getting dumber. Don’t worry, it’s all gonna be over soon.