• helpImTrappedOnline@lemmy.world
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      27 days ago

      “What ever you do, do not breath in the concrete dust. We also packaged it in a flimsy paper bag allowing all the dust spill out and enter the air.”

      On one hand I get why they do it, you need a lot of bags for larger jobs and trying to put those in plastic containers is extremely wasteful and costly, but they could at least double ply the bags or something.

      • Death_Equity@lemmy.world
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        26 days ago

        Concrete bags are usually two ply, but they are pretty thin. Most of the dust gets shot out the corner when you move them around, especially the ones with the tear-out corner for pouring. They do sell concrete in plastic bags though, great for wet weather but they can get kind of slick. For the bigger jobs you get a mixer truck delivery.

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    27 days ago

    The grain is harvested, milled, etc., ultimately processed into flour and bagged.

    Warehoused, shipped, warehoused, shipped, stored, shelved…then sold to you.

    Cue people here telling you it’s not supposed to be in a bag bc “it must know it’s in your house now…”

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      27 days ago

      Usually once it’s bagged, its put on a pallet and shrinkwrapped, effectively sealing it. You absolutely should be using an airtight container once you purchase it.

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      27 days ago

      Ok let me just quickly transfer these 10 kg of 4 different types of flour I bought into a bunch of containers

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        27 days ago

        I just buy 50 lbs of all-purpose flour, throw it in a big, wheeled food-safe container marketed for dog food, and use it for nearly everything that calls for flour. I’ve never had a problem with my breads or cakes while using all-purpose flour. I still need gluten-free flour and some specialty stuff like corn flour and almond flour for some recipes, but those come in nice, resealable bags.

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        26 days ago

        I mean, yah. If you’re going to be baking enough to merit 10kg of multiple flours, you absolutely want them in separate containers. Even if you only have the AP, bread, and cake flour trio that covers most baking needs, you’ll want them stored in airtight containers.

        It ain’t even that hard or slow; my crippled ass with arthritis can do it fine. Well, it hurts, but I don’t lose enough flour to matter.

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          26 days ago

          American naming conventions confuse me. We just call the flour by what it’s made of: wheat, rye, spelt and their grade of refinement.

          Bread flour? You can make bread out of so many different types of flour.

          • TheTetrapod@lemmy.world
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            26 days ago

            They have different protein content. Your country almost certainly has an equivalent system, perhaps with more descriptive names.

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              26 days ago

              Yep. We have a type number, that describes how many mg of ash are left behind after burning 100g of said flour.

              Since starch burns away cleanly, the amount of ash shows how much of the rest of the grain is still in the flour (the rind or the germinating part).

              So it would be “wheat flour type 450” which is more refined than “wheat flour type 1050”. More refined means it rises better. But there’s lots of healthy and tasty stuff in the rind, so if it’s not a sponge cake I’m making, I try to incorporate higher types.

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        26 days ago

        Good idea. Not sure what you need 4 new types of flour at a time but good idea nonetheless

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    27 days ago

    It is adequate.
    It performs it’s function.

    No need for extreme consumerism & garbage production.

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        26 days ago

        There might be a desire from those that were looking for the top response to let it ride for visibility. I wish most things were as practically packaged as flour.

        Edit: Can we do coffee next? I drink a lot of the stuff, and unless I roast my own, there is absolutely no environmentally friendly option. I tried roasting my own. I set off the smoke detector, upset the dogs, and made my house smell bad.

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          26 days ago

          Most of the local roasters I go to sell coffee in recyclable paper bags that are technically resealable using the little bendy tie thingy. I end up just dumping it into an airtight glass jar once I open it up though.

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            26 days ago

            Mine are always using plastic. I guess because they can seal it better? I feel like if I’m buying it directly to have it fresh this really doesn’t do shit, so I would be very cool with paper bags too.

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          26 days ago

          Do you consider carbon neutral/negative(or at least as close as possible) to be environmentally friendly? What about sustainable agricultural practices?

          If yes, I bought some coffee from Tiny Footprint coffee, which claims to be carbon negative, allegedly gets coffee from smaller local growers (you can pick the growing conditions you like, so like I got a bunch from women-owned farms), and they are actively trying to restore the areas where they source coffee. Also it’s packed in wax coated paper, and I believe you can buy bulk if you like.

          It’s not cheap, and the roasts tend lighter than you’d expect (so imo a medium brews like a light), but it’s really good coffee.

          And yeah, I live kinda close to a coffee roaster and it doesn’t smell great at all. If you have a garage, a cheap used oven set up out there might do the trick.

          • thesystemisdown@lemmy.world
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            26 days ago

            Sweet, thanks!

            Yes, I seek out the most ethical option with whatever I consume. Being fair to people and kind to the environment should always come before convenience and profit. Especially for anything considered a luxury like coffee or chocolate. It would be nice if it was just on the shelf at the store since I’m already there, but it usually doesn’t work that way.

      • TheTetrapod@lemmy.world
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        26 days ago

        I think it’s because a lot of people’s (myself included) knee-jerk reaction is “yeah, those bags do suck”, then they look at the comments and either realize the tide is against them or end up agreeing with the points in the comments upon reflection.

      • atomicorange@lemmy.world
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        26 days ago

        Downvoting isn’t for disagreement. If you think the conversation is valuable you can upvote for visibility while disagreeing in a comment. This is important subject matter that needs to be hashed out!

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      27 days ago

      It’s biodegradable, renewable, and only needs to get from the manufacturer to your cabinet, where it can be replaced with heartier permanent storage.

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        27 days ago

        And it also needs to leave everything inside my backpack coated in a thin layer of flour.

        What I don’t get is why they put it in a single two-layer paper bag instead of two single-layer paper bags, which would clearly be more effective.

      • nilloc@discuss.tchncs.de
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        Same for sugar, it’s really annoying that so many things have switched to plastic. Gram crackers, Ritz and Saltines all used to be in waxed paper when I was a kid and were fine.

        Now they switch to plastic, but make sure it’s tinted to mimic the old paper versions.

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        26 days ago

        Real environmentalists just pack the flour into their jeans pockets to avoid unnecessary paper waste

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    26 days ago

    Don’t eat the white poison. It’s made from the ice wall that contains the oceans of the flat earth. Sometimes even from chemtrails!

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    27 days ago

    Not sure I want to go back to wooden barrels holding 196lbs of flour.

    Cloth sacks are cool too, but packaging cost is a real concern with bulky staples.

    Just get a plastic bin.

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      27 days ago

      Important distinction: Get a bin for your house - no sane educated person wants flour to be sold in disposable plastic bins.

      (I’m sure you agree, but it bares mentioning in case there are ever any business folk reading this.)