• JimSamtanko@lemm.ee
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    23 days ago

    Since they announced that it will be PC and XBOX only- I stopped giving a shit. I refuse to buy a new hardware that once was accessible without having to.

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      23 days ago

      You’re probably not missing much. Morrowind is the last good Elder Scrolls game they ever made. But that has also been PC/Xbox exclusive since 2002 so may as well write the series off completely.

      • Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        23 days ago

        last good

        Aite I loved Morrowind, it’s one of my top games of all time but both Oblivion and Skrim are stellar. SkrimVR with mods is insanely fantastic.

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          23 days ago

          this bethesda anti circlejerk has gotten way out of hand. i hated starfield too but that doesn’t change how awesome oblivion and skyrim were.

          • Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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            23 days ago

            I fully agree, like what the fuck

            I never played Starfield and Morrowind is so amazing but

            Morrowind will NEVER be better than modded Skyrim, that the fuck, it’s so magical.

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              23 days ago

              Don’t even need to get into ranking them, it’s just completely asinine to say Oblivion and Skyrim are not even good at all. Circlejerk nonsense from someone who probably hasn’t played any of them.

              • Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                23 days ago

                Completely agree. I didn’t want to be hostile like I would be if I was back on Reddit but that’s fucking insane bullshit that’s insanely wrong lawl

                • Rekorse@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                  22 days ago

                  Its almost like treating opinions as facts leads to bullshit replies like this one.

                  The poster has an opinion and explained it well. They actually think Skyrim and Oblivion are bad games, what’s so hard to believe?

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                22 days ago

                I bet I’ve played a lot more of them than you have.

                It took me a while to realize that I wasn’t having fun with Skyrim, and I thought it wasn’t as good as Oblivion. The games weren’t getting any better, just prettier. The writing and worldbuilding was getting objectively worse, too.

                Morrowind is the only one I keep going back to, it’s the only one that has some semblance of soul.

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    23 days ago

    It was 5 years and 8 months between the release of Oblivion and Skyrim. Oblivion was released on March 20, 2006, and Skyrim was released on November 11, 2011.

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      23 days ago

      It’s like people have completely forgotten that fact. That snipped was at the very of a 30 minute Bethesda presentation that had Fallout 76 with its multiplayer being a significant move away from their traditional formula, Elder Scrolls Blades (which is a mobile game nobody remembers) and the reveal of Starfield, a completely new franchise. Of course fans are going to question where is TES 6.

      And a few months later Blizzard showed what happens when you don’t tease Diablo 4 after revealing Diablo immortal.

      • JigglySackles@lemmy.world
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        23 days ago

        I played Blades for a little while until it got too ‘gimme gimme’ about me paying. Then I stopped. Not paying to win.

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    23 days ago

    Didn’t they make an MMO in the mean time? It is like asking when Warcraft 4 is going to be released.

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    23 days ago

    I personally think if something is in pre-production you shouldn’t announce it at all.

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      23 days ago

      They announced it back then because at the time people were afraid they were only going to make Fallout games.

  • AlexWIWA@lemmy.ml
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    23 days ago

    They should just release a new game with the graphical fidelity of Fallout 4, but with better performance and animations. They could probably cut their dev budget in half if they made a game with Skyrim’s scope and FO4’s graphics.

    No one plays Bethesda games for their graphical fidelity so they really need to stop wasting time there.

    • Postmortal_Pop@lemmy.world
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      23 days ago

      Frankly, they could rebuild skyrim with the fallout 4 mechanics for base building, shared item storage for crafting, weapon modding, and for shits and giggles throw in steam centurions being unobtainable dwemer power armor frames.

      Fuck, sell me basic ass skyrim but integrate the top 30 mods on nexus into the base game. It’s honestly not hard to do better then they’re doing.

    • pantyhosewimp@lemmynsfw.com
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      23 days ago

      Elder Scrolls especially Morrowind will always have a place in my heart but I’ve moved on. If they ever release a better game I will come back. What ever is running Starfield won’t be it.

      I’ve found New World and as far as MMOs go, it’s the best I’ve played in comparison to Elder Scrolls Online and Guild Wars 2 (in depth) and a few others (<40 hours).

      But New World has the lore, baby. That’s what seals the deal. Superior gameplay: check. Great art design: check. The lore is the final block and New World is so interesting. I didn’t think a fantasy setting could have new and interesting lore but they succeeded.

      How the Lost came into creation from

      Tap for spoiler

      trying to cure the Corruption

      is so tragic. I’m still learning what Angry Earth is all about tho.

      And it’s just fun! Like, I would have never guessed that I’d enjoy running around in a pilgrim hat getting killed by a giant turkey with laser eyes. And who would have guessed you could successfully merge the giants from Nasusicca Valley of the Wind with 1500s Caribbean aesthetic?

      But if you’re thinking: “We’re talking about single player games, dumbass.” Yea, I know, I like New World so much that I wish the same dev team would make a proper single player game in the exact same setting.

    • Ephera@lemmy.ml
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      23 days ago

      I don’t believe, they’re actually 6 years into the development. Back then, they just announced that at some point, there would be a TES6, but they’ve been busy developing Starfield since then.

      As part of Starfield, they did do some engine upgrades. You know what that looks like…

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        23 days ago

        Their announcement for the 30th anniversary implies that it is in early pre-alpha right now. Chances of it running on the same exact engine as Starfield are practically 100%

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          23 days ago

          Wonder if it’ll be ready for the 30th anniversary of Skyrim

          Anyway

          Chances of it running on the same exact engine as Starfield are practically 100%

          You can still make improvements in pre-alpha for sure. Not massive overhauls of existing systems, but there’s no reason you couldn’t fix bugs, incrementally improve existing features and add new ones.

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            23 days ago

            Sure, you could, but given beths track record in that regard, why would they? They have been perfectly happy shipping Skyrim to new platforms with the same bugs for nearly a decade.

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          22 days ago

          I don’t think the announcement implies anything. Truly. It’s just them trying to get shareholders happy about hype.

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    23 days ago

    I used to be a Dragonborn like you, but then I got a fire arrow to my dedicated graphics card.
    Now nothing newer than Oblivion will ever run on that machine.

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      22 days ago

      luckily the last time Bethesda had good writing was Morrowind so you’re not missing much

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        22 days ago

        In Morrowind I like the story and the music. But as I explored the battle mechanics, I couldn’t stand the randomness.
        Also in a later retries after Oblivion and Skyrim I missed the real talking more than the graphics enhancements.
        A bit unfair, I know. Maybe I’m not that game connoisseur myself.

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          yeah but the talking was annoying af. it felt like they had like four people voicing the entire game. meanwhile a small independent studio like supergiant makes a much smaller game fully voice acted but doesn’t feel exhausted as quickly as Skyrim, with thousands of lines both written and performed fantastically. i can’t excuse anything Bethesda is doing anymore. they’re getting worse with every game, both in terms of writing and gameplay.

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            Yes, mostly Wes Johnson with a bit of a very annoyed Sean Bean.
            But I have a soft spot for the over the top Sheogorath, the unnecessarily aggressive guard shouts and the calm voice of the Khajiit women.
            Some of the other few voices I can’t stand, especially the blacksmith of Chorrol (“A pleeeeasure to serve you”).

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    Normally, I would say that I don’t care when a game comes out, as long as it’s a genuinely good, complete experience. But knowing Bethesda, it’ll be another 5 years before we see anything, and then we’ll get an embarrassingly buggy title, that hasn’t innovated on anything since Fallout 3 came out.

    I used to forgive them for anything, knowing that the modding community would just patch things anyway, but we’ve seen how Starfield was rejected by a ton of people with skills.

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      21 days ago

      Shadow of the Erdtree DLC comes out this month after begging developed for 2 years. Even amazing games take forever to develop, I’m certainly not waiting half a decade for another fucking Starfield…

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      23 days ago

      I think too many people forget that Skyrim was actually popular enough without mods to bring enough modders to the table to fix the rest of it. Bethesda seems to have forgotten that they actually have to deliver a mostly fun and mostly playable game for a proper modding scene to take root.

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        23 days ago

        That really is a pretty substantial part of it too. Modding at its core requires a good game, and everything else comes from people wanting to change parts of it, that aren’t necessarily to their liking. Bethesda somehow assumed that people would be willing to reimplement half of the game at launch. That just won’t slide anymore, for 70$

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          21 days ago

          Yep. And the good mods take a while to make too. If your game is dead 3 months after launch, who’s going to still be motivated to keep working on a big overhaul type mod?

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      23 days ago

      It didn’t help that Starfield didn’t release with any of the normal modding toolset for Bethsda games. It literally didn’t get it until this month.