I’m working on a project with a 19x26" panel that I realized after gluing still has a bit of a twist in it across the three boards. In the past I’ve simply sanded down panels, but I think this one is going to require a plane. Thing is, I’m still fairly new to woodworking and don’t have any planes yet so I’ve been doing my homework on which to get.

I generally avoid buying junk tools, especially Chinese junk so that rules out a bunch of the options. Plus, I assume I’d find it difficult to tune up an old one since I’m not knowledgeable enough about them yet. Because of that I’ve ended up going straight to the top and considering either Lee Valley or Lie-Nielsen.

Given that my immediate task is to flatten a panel I was thinking either a #5 or #5-1/2 high angle jack plane knowing that I’d likely expand the collection in the future with a smoother as well, but for now I’m only looking for a first one.

Does that make sense for me? If so, any tips on deciding between the #5 and #5-1/2? The #5 is a bit cheaper, but it seems like the slightly bigger #5-1/2 would be good if I followed it up with a #4 in the future. Specifically I’ve been looking at:

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    11 months ago

    I’d go with a 5-1/2 instead of a 5. Its longer length suits it to larger jobs so you might as well take a wider shaving.

    I use a 5-1/2 for similar flattening jobs and have never wished for it to be more narrow.

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      11 months ago

      Cool, good to know I’m on the right track then. Now if only the 5-1/2s weren’t so much less common than the 5s.

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        11 months ago

        I have the Wood River model, and kinda regret that it’s from China. Especially for the price!

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    11 months ago

    I would recommend buying a Stanley Bailey #5 from one of the old tool dealers online in fettled user condition. Read up on the use and adjustment of the cap iron (chipbreaker). If you search for David weaver cap iron you’ll find a lot of information.

    No matter what plane you buy you’ll have to have your sharpening skills at a high level for it to be useful.

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      11 months ago

      Yeah I was looking at those too, but the feeling I got was that they were more for construction work or jobs that require removing a lot of material quickly and not necessarily what I’d want for fine adjustments of boards. Is that fair to say?

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        They are for rough work, to get you to sanding ready. They can take as little as 1/64th of an inch (0.4mm) so they can get you close to level.

        But they will not do the work of a smoothing plane. You will still need either a smoother or a sander to get that last little bit.

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    11 months ago

    It’s relatively simple, if tedious, to clean up an old plane. Paul Sellers has a great video about it. #4 should be fine for 19x26".

    No reason to drop $425 on a hand plane, especially if you’re just starting out. Find someone with a 20" planer you can use for 10 minutes (local maker space or FB groups are good places to check), or buy a few used planes at an auction/FB marketplace.

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      It’s not so much that I’m just starting out, but more that I’ve been putting off buying a plane while I built out the rest of my shop and always found a way to get something done without buying one. But I think I’m now at the point where it’s time to make that jump. But I also recognize that I don’t yet have the knowledge to know what I’d be buying used, which gives me pause on going that route lest it turn into a project itself.

      I was thinking that I’d like something initially I could use for planing other projects too so that’s why I was leaning towards a #5. Do you think it’s worth starting with a #4 even if I wouldn’t be primarily using it as a smoother?

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        11 months ago

        I got by with a #4 and a block plane for the first few years. You can’t really go wrong with an older Stanley. Generally, as long as they aren’t too pitted, any plane will do the job. Cheaper ones will be more of a pain to sharpen, older ones will take more clean up, but it’s more important to be decent at sharpening than it is to buy a fancy new plane. A properly sharpened cheap plane will outperform a dull expensive plane.