At the height of the COVID-19 pandemic, the U.S. military launched a secret campaign to counter what it perceived as China’s growing influence in the Philippines, a nation hit especially hard by the deadly virus.
The clandestine operation has not been previously reported. It aimed to sow doubt about the safety and efficacy of vaccines and other life-saving aid that was being supplied by China, a Reuters investigation found. Through phony internet accounts meant to impersonate Filipinos, the military’s propaganda efforts morphed into an anti-vax campaign. Social media posts decried the quality of face masks, test kits and the first vaccine that would become available in the Philippines – China’s Sinovac inoculation.
Reuters identified at least 300 accounts on X, formerly Twitter, that matched descriptions shared by former U.S. military officials familiar with the Philippines operation. Almost all were created in the summer of 2020 and centered on the slogan #Chinaangvirus – Tagalog for China is the virus.
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it‘s okay. They’re just protecting our values, or morals, or culture, or something. Ah, I‘m sorry, it‘s markets.
Where is the source for this? I see zero source.
Reuters is the source, they’re fairly reputable.
It was mentioned, but it was emphatically not linked.
this is what paranoid skepticism looks like i guess. being skeptical isn’t noble in and of itself
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It’s the primary source. It’s original investigative journalism, not a Wikipedia article or a listicle. Link to what? Itself?
Why would Reuters cite itself and link to its own website? Did you even open the link?
Fuck Trump.
The Shinzo Abe situations are always weird to me. One or more people decided to do this, in the sense that the buck stops somewhere.
It’s easy to find addresses, workplaces, family members, an itinerary.
It’s like in order to make it to these positions you need to have a defective brain that allows you to hurt lots of other people while ignoring how easy it is for one of them to reach out and touch you. I’d need constant anxiety meds.
Yamagami did no wrong.
His only mistake was not using the insane 9-barrel doohickey he had at home instead
Article doesn’t come up for me. However, I wouldn’t be surprised if this was the brainchild of those farts in the Trump administration who thought the virus would kill off Democrat voters and were happy to see response slowed.
What the fuck!? Come on!!!
Nothing sinister my govt does can really surprise me anymore.
To be an enemy of America can be dangerous, but to be a friend is fatal
Henry Kissinger
Also Kissinger: let’s do even more of that, and drop bombs on random grid squares just to be a dick
Can we start adding war criminal next to war criminal Henry Kissinger’s name like we do with convicted rapist Brock Turner?
Honestly, war criminal doesn’t even cut it. Dude is a class of piece of shit on his own. One of the largest shitstains on the toilet bowl of history
SEATO members
How the fuck does anyone think its a good idea to keep people from vaccinating? They realise the virus just keeps spreading globally if any one country keeps having it in circulation? Just bizarre. Just like Russia.
This is the government, their goal is to stay in power and screw you over
It started while Trump was trying to act like the pandemic was a hoax. So I’m not that surprised. Article also says Biden shut it down in spring of 2021 which wasn’t long after he was sworn in.
Except the article also notes that Twitter didn’t remove the accounts and their posts until Reuters told them about it, presumably because the Department of Defense never told Twitter or anyone else about this program.
Biden should have informed the public about this bad behavior, publicly condemned it, and publicly held the people behind it accountable. It shouldn’t have taken investigative journalists digging quotes out of nameless sources to bring this to light if the administration were serious about preventing the spread of misinformation and not just trying to sweep an obviously dumb idea under the rug before it could blow up in their faces.
He should have, but members of the armed forces are heroes, regardless of their actual actions, and slighting them in any way is an attack on American patriotism.
The general in charge of this was promoted in August of 2021.
alarmed social media executives warned the new administration that the Pentagon had been trafficking in COVID misinformation
The military argued that many of its fake accounts were being used for counterterrorism and asked Facebook not to take down the content
Sounds more like the Pentagon did tell them so they could whitelist the Pentagon trolls from getting banned. Then social media companies got nervous that the troll farm was sloppy and going to get caught by someone not under NDA sooner or later, and a new admin was an opportunity to lobby to get out of this bad PR situation.
Maybe they did. The White House has ways of getting information out without significantly adding additional attention.
The anonymous sources here were way more talkative than military types tend to be.
Seems to me like an example of another thing getting repaired after Trump broke it.
Attention should have been drawn to this. Beyond the whole “America should practice what it preaches to every other country” thing, how is someone who was exposed to our disinformation and believed it going to find out it was false if we just try to memory-hole the whole thing?
They were only talkative after the Reuters reporters showed up with evidence of their bad behavior, so it’s not like we’re dealing with whistleblowers here. Fair point that military types tend to say a lot of bullshit and don’t like to answer questions, though, which is why what really ought to happen here is a public Congressional hearing with subpoenas that force them to answer questions with their names attached to their statements. We need to know who the people who approved and implemented this were so we can make sure their careers with our military are over (or that they’re never contracted for work by our military ever again).
Seems to me like another example of shithead moderate Dems covering up for psychopathic Republicans and normalizing their shittiest policies by coming up with a bit more paperwork instead of tearing them out root and branch like most Dem voters would want them to (see also; Biden continuing Trump’s attacks on asylum and migration, Obama continuing Bush’s drone war, Clinton continuing Reagan and Bush’s attacks on welfare programs, etc.).
Trump takes a dump in the White House. Biden doesn’t manage to mop it all up.
You - How could Biden have missed this spot.
Why did he sweep one of Trump’s turds under the rug and leave it for Reuters to clean up?
Because he’s still trying to do what’s good for the country.
Wonderful to see our country is continuing our tradition of nonsensical psy-ops designed to exploit a tragedy and inflict as much harm as possible. I’m glad there’s no consequences for a nation abusing their power in such an egregious manner.
I’m glad there’s no consequences for a nation abusing their power in such an egregious manner.
Sarcasm aside, the no consequences part is especially troubling when there’s also the American Service-Members’ Protection Act (United States federal law enacted 2 August 2002).
The American Service-Members’ Protection Act, known informally as The Hague Invasion Act, is a United States federal law described as “a bill to protect United States military personnel and other elected and appointed officials of the United States government against criminal prosecution by an international criminal court to which the United States is not party.”
TL;DR: If an international criminal court tries to hold military personnel or politicians accountable for war crimes the US military is required by law to invade the Hague and “rescue” the war criminal from prosecution.
The Philippines is a major US ally in the region, hopefully they raise a stink about this. Nothing changes pentagon policy quicker than a potential loss of military strength.
This is ridiculous. Fucking spooks
Government funded covidiots… Jesus fucking Christ
So the exact same antivax operation russia ran in america with republicans as their useful idiots?
I swear it’s always the same in .world
Post: “America proven to have done yet another thing wrong” First comment: “BuT rUsSiA aNd ChInA?!!?!!!1!!11!”
For the record, this is a report coming from Reuters, the reports that Russia spread misinformation about COVID came from the State Department’s Global Engagement Center
Insane degrees of whataboutism
It’s almost like it’s noteworthy that the US is not unique in this shittiness, and it’s fucking awful of all the countries who did this.
The information about Russia did not come solely from the State Department: https://www.nytimes.com/2021/08/05/us/politics/covid-vaccines-russian-disinformation.html?smid=nytcore-android-share
And frankly, with the disinformation campaigns we definitively know Russia is doing, Volodya Ilich, it’s not farfetched to think Russia would do this. Especially considering how brutally Covid hit Russia and the vaccine skepticism they had domestically.
From your own article:
“Graphika has tracked disinformation that is probably spread by a group affiliated with people who used to work with the St. Petersburg-based Internet Research Agency, which propagated disinformation during the 2016 election. […] While the group advances Moscow’s strategic narratives, it is unclear what precise ties, if any, it has to the Russian government”
The best link they could make between the posts and the Russian Government is “it was PROBABLY spread by a group AFFILIATED with people who USED TO work with the Saint Petersburg-based…”. Come on, man.
Volodya Ilich
That happens to be a reference to Lenin because I’m a socialist. The current Russian government on its downwards spiral to Fascism is the polar opposite of what socialism represents. Maybe stop being racist against anything with Russian roots, there’s plenty of opposition against the oligarchic imperialist government. It’s not far-fetched that the russian government would do this, but that’s entirely not the point of the post. The post is saying “America does evil thing” and the first comment that pops up on my screen is “oh, so just like Russia?”. No. Not "just like Russia. Just like the USA because it’s a force for evil in the world in itself.
I usually see the opposite: some post about Russia or China doing something shitty and a bunch of “but the US!!!” comments. Too much whataboutism all around.
I remember the US Airforce chief in 2017 suggesting that the US should have their own troll army. I guess that’s now implemented.
Skankhunt42 reporting for duty
Except that one is still going strong today… Like, how nuts is that? I have family that literally went full anti-vax since that point. Fully vaccinated before the pandemic.
As an American, I am ashamed that my country’s government does acts of pure evil like this. I’m sorry rest of the world, I wish my voice was more than but a whisper while on a St Patrick’s Day bar crawl in Boston.
In my honest opinion whoever proposed this, approved this, and ultimately executed this should be persecuted for something akin to shouting fire leading to a stampede and deaths.
Actions like this are exactly why we probably shouldn’t have a completely opaque society.
In my honest opinion whoever proposed this, approved this, and ultimately executed this should be persecuted for something akin to shouting fire leading to a stampede and deaths.
That would be Donald J. Trump. It’s in the article.
We knew he was bad at managing the pandemic and we know he was bad at foreign policy. This was a two for the price of one deal.
He was bad at everything ffs. Nothing has changed. Yet half the country is going to vote for him again
And part of Lemmy will continue to say “there’s basically no difference between the two parties!”
General Jonathan Braga was promoted to Lieutenant General in August 2021, months after the new Biden administration was informed about and canceled the program.
That’s internal bullshit. Suck enough dicks and you’ll be able to murder someone at a party and get away with it.
He followed orders and ran an effective disinformation campaign.
Think of the Pentagon as a bureaucracy that just does what they’re told. If the President says they should invade a country X, they draw up the plans, figure out the logistics, and invade country X. If the President says invade country Y, same thing, just with country Y instead of country X. They follow orders, it’s kinda a big thing in the military.
Trump ordered a disinformation campaign in the Philippines, so this guy ran an effective disinformation campaign in the Philippines. If the President wanted to run a disinformation campaign in Russia this would be a guy they’d want to do it.
Follows orders and is good at his job, that’s the criteria needed for a promotion.
The blame lies on Trump for giving the order.
Following orders is no excuse and the campaign should be is and is a crime of meaningful scope and scale.
Well sorry to break it to you, there’s no international law making disinformation campaigns illegal. It was a bad order to be sure, but not an illegal order.
Soldiers are responsible when following an illegal order. When it’s a bad order, then it’s the person giving the order that’s responsible.
It’s just how military works. They have to follow the law, but not your personal morality. I mean what’s the morality around killing a person because they’re wearing a different uniform? Do you think that’s fine while a disinformation campaigns are crossing the line?
Cool technicality. It’s a crime by any sane definition of harm.
The law isn’t based on your feelings.
It is in part based on my feels.
You just legitimized Russian, Iranian and Chinese disinformation campaigns against America. Good job, I guess.
It is what it is. War is a much more horrible thing than a disinformation campaign. So let’s just make war illegal, problem solved!
Unfortunately it doesn’t work that way.
Whether Russian, Iranian and Chinese disinformation campaigns against America are legitimate or not isn’t all that relevant. They’re happening and will continue to happen regardless of how legitimate anyone considers them to be.
Eventually there may be treaties countries will agree to stop doing disinformation campaigns. But Russia, China, and Iran aren’t going to sign on to these agreements if they’re the only ones with the capability to conduct disinformation campaigns. Why would they give up their capabilities to disrupt their adversaries if their adversaries didn’t have the capability to disrupt their countries with disinformation? Gotta have Mutually Assured Disinformation before you can get everyone to agree to stop these activities.
Just how global politics works.
Whats funny is the poster here was very likely part of said disinformation campaign. This is an attempt to distract from the moral wrong excuted here with the cover of legality. No laws existed that made the Holocaust illegal yet the post laws and trails are valid and necessary. The acts here should be seen as a form of biological warfare, a crime against humanity with all the reprehensible disgust and reasonable punishment due to those who did not stand up and walk away.
Following orders is not just how it works and the criminality of following illegal orders has been established many times.
This is a crime, regardless of the laws today, regardless of my feelings, it is never acceptable to attempt to infect others with a deadly biological agent directly or indirectly.
Is it a crime to kill a person simply because they’re wearing a different uniform from you?
That’s what the military does, right? They kill people for wearing a different uniform. What’s the morality around that? Is it more or less moral to lie to someone than it is to kill them?
We can debate the morality of the existence of militaries all we want. But people in power in places like Russia aren’t having that debate. They will use their capabilities to expand their power in absence of a force to oppose them. We need military capabilities and that we means we need to have people willing to kill people for wearing a different uniform. God forbid they might lie to people sometimes, right? Killing people we’re fine with, but disinformation crosses the line!
That excuse didn’t work for the Germans and regular soldiers in WW2. Why would you think it should work for America now?
Are you claiming that a disinformation campaign is a war crime and therefore an illegal order?
That’s kinda a stretch don’t you think?
I’m 100% willing to claim that. The expected end result of this is fewer civilians taking the Chinese vaccine (with likely spillover for other vaccine efforts) and thus more disease deaths. That’s a pretty solid justification for war crimes.
Just like “shooting a gun” isn’t a war crime. It’s not the act that’s a crime, it’s the expected results and the victims.
The clandestine operation has not been previously reported. It aimed to sow doubt about the safety and efficacy of vaccines and other life-saving aid
that was being supplied by China, a Reuters investigation found.Through phony internet accounts meant to impersonate
FilipinosAmericans, the military’s propaganda efforts morphed into an anti-vax campaign.Social media posts decried the quality of face masks, test kits and the first vaccine that would become available in
the Philippines – China’s Sinovac inoculation.FTFT. Also horse de-wormer, hydroxychloriquine, and bleach. The Pentagon was just doing what other wrong-thinking military psyops orgs were doing. The MAGAts were, of course, the targets for those.
Unsurprisingly led by the demented orange rapist who embraced all the garbage and spread it widely, and bigly.
Pretty sure this was being done TO the US by ops in Russia,China, Iran and others
It was. Yeah. It was also wrong to do. And effective.
You’re mistaken. Literally the first paragraph of the article says …
the U.S. military launched a secret campaign to counter what it perceived as China’s growing influence in the Philippines
He’s making the point that everyone is doing this to each other.
They said someone else …
The MAGAts were, of course, the targets for those.
My point is that the same article, with just a few minor substitutions, could be aptly applied to right-wing MAGAs and Qult members who joined in and amplified said message. I have no doubt there is some equivalent to the Herman Cain Award winners in the Philippines.
