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    Didn’t french minister Robbespierre say and act same in french revolution aera? Before he was executed by his own people.

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    At some point all of these MAGA people will have to be stopped permanently or another country will invade us and punish us for doing nothing to stop them but voting and crying online.

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    I would have been astonished if he hadn’t. I figured he’s the typical old white Republican where the answer to every irritant is to kill it.

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    Not stunning to anyone who’s paid attention. So I bet there’s lots of people who are deeply shocked by this.

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            Morose humor is simply a way to deal with tragedy and sadness. It’s often the most we can do for ourselves or anyone else in such situations. Seeing as in this situation especially it would require to impress upon people the importance of Being educated in general and about specific things that they have no interest in. Both of which are generally out of our control. So we all just default to recognizing the absurdity.

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              Don’t get me wrong, I’m not faulting you or anything… it’s both absurd and sad that major alarm bells have been going off about Trump for a very long time and a lot of people don’t notice or look the other way.

              Better to laugh than cry I guess.

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                I didn’t think you were :-) and unfortunately Trump is just the most recent symptom. It’s been going on for longer than even my parents have been alive. And they were born in the late 40s and early 50s. At least here in the US.

                Grandpappy Bush was tied to a coup in the 30s

  • Balthazar@lemmy.world
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    Why is it that those who are most vocal about being American don’t understand what that means?

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        I am

        I am lampooning a certain population on Lemmy who like to come up with an endless variety of specious reasons not to vote for Biden. Some of their reasons are pretty much exactly as I stated, and to me they are outweighed by “Trump wants to kill anyone who disobeys him, so we shouldn’t put him in charge of the military” among other issues, and so hence the lampooning.

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      Or the ones who say they can’t vote for Biden because he’s not doing the things he’s not got the power to do. All in pursuit of some ephemeral moral High Ground. Which they think exonerates them of all the genocide and killing that will still happen. Possibly even increase if such actions were to be taken.

      They all think they’ve got a simple easily implementable answer to all the problems. Despite the best minds of generations of people having been unable to actually solve it. The ignorance and hubris is palpable.

      I think the easiest and most simple to implement solution to all this. Would be to time travel back to the selection of places for Israel to be carved out of. And hard veto Palestine somehow.

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          What you don’t understand, is that they’ll still get delivered. Wait…. I’m pretty sure you DO understand this. But it really messes up your propaganda if you were to admit it.

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            No they won’t. Wait, I’m sorry, let’s hear it. How do you think the weapons are going to be delivered if Israel is declared completely ineligible under the Leahy Law and FSA?

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              ROFL… show how you don’t know how congress works without saying you don’t know how congress works.

              Even if Biden is able to halt it- which he isn’t…. When you succeed in getting Trump elected, he’s going to go HAM on Palestine. So tell us again how much you care to stop it again?

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                I’m sorry, but by what method exactly will Congress bypass the Leahy Law and FSA?

                None of this schoolyard innuendo. Prove your knowledge.

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                  You mean like when I asked you to provide a name of someone running that could win against Trump in November?

                  You forgot didn’t you?

                  You had no answer. I asked you several times. You refused to answer. Proving that no only do you not have anything better to say than “dOn’T vOtE fOr biDeN!” You have no clue what your end game is.

                  And in case you forgot- I said I had no intention to ever take a thing you say seriously. That means I’m not entertaining any of your questions where you refused to answer mine.

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        Love seeing both of you in the comment sections of these posts! Far left lunacy needs to be put in check.

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    Kaitlan Collins, to her credit, interviewed Bill Barr and asked about an anecdote that I had shared about a meeting he and I were both in the Oval Office, where Trump straight up said a staffer who leaked a story should be executed. And Bill Barr kind of danced it and said I don’t recall that specific instance, but there were others where we talked about executing people. How do you rationalize that is a person fit in sound judgment to be president of the United States?

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    So what?

    At this point, anyone who’s a Trump supporter secretly (or quite vocally) agrees with the policy of executions.

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    She sat in the same room and did nothing. Now enjoying playing the other side as a political commentator on CNN. Just sayin.

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    If you notice the contrast between jurors that convicted dementia donnie vs. those that convicted Hunter…the difference between the two “sides” here is thrown into stark contrast.

    No matter how much the “liberal media” tries to bothsides the two parties, they just cannot cover it up.

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      What do you mean by the juror comparison? I didn’t follow the Hunter trial (because who the fuck cares lol) so I might be out of the loop

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        The jurors for Hunter were out there giving interviews after the fact. The jurors for donnie are more or less in hiding as far as I can tell.

        And for good reason. It’s not “both sides”; the Republicans have been getting crazier and more violent every year and they adore donnie the wanna-be dictator. They were trying to dox the jurors, and the jurors would be right in trying to keep quiet and lay low and hope to keep their identity secret. Honestly, if he “wins” this fall, and I were them? I’d get the fuck out of this country. A great many of the donnie leg-humpers are crazy and murderous.

        Meanwhile, as you point out - who GAF about Hunter, honestly. His plea deal being spiked and this trial is likely entirely political, but if he faces consequences for misfiling some paperwork while addicted to crack, I doubt any Democrat or leftist is going to be making death threats to anyone, least of all the jurors that found him guilty.

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          Ahh yeah that makes sense, thanks for the explanation, 100% agree with you

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        Likening your ideological opponents to rats and other vermin was used by the Nazis to brutally persecute Jews and other minorities.[1]

        By portraying a group’s ideology as a sickness or infestation, it becomes easier to justify segregating, oppressing, or even killing them under the guise of social hygiene or self-defense against this perceived plague.[1][2] This dehumanizing rhetoric lays the groundwork for escalating violence.

        Citations: [1] Losing France’s Imperial War on Rats - U-M Library Digital Collections https://quod.lib.umich.edu/cgi/t/text/idx/w/wsfh/0642292.0047.006/--losing-frances-imperial-war-on-rats?rgn=main%3Bview%3Dfulltext [2] Anti-LGBT rhetoric - Wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-LGBT_rhetoric

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          What do you think about when unvaccinated were called plague rats during covid? Do you think we could have ended up down the same path with them?

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            If you want to get philosophical, society always has to turm authoritarian when it needs to deal with people who reject society. You either forcefully reject the ones who refuse to partake or you let them warp society in their image.

            Being anti-vax is the same as being against society. Now, completely trying to get rid of them, like nazis tried with jews, is a bit extreme but penalizing antivaxxers IMO is perfectly fine. You can’t simply endanger others just because you refuse to partake in society.

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              When it comes to laws, I agree that the whole point of laws is to benefit society and that people who don’t want to follow the laws are subject to an authoritarian response. In the case of covid vaccines, the law stopped short of requiring them by law. It nearly did so through executive mandates, but not quite. But even if it were so, dehumanizing language like “plague rat”, and it being a step towards a dark societal path, is not the same as consequences for breaking the law in the context of what a healthy society looks like. ANY dehumanizing language is bad and dangerous and there are no exceptions.

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            That animosity is a policy failure because they should have just vaccinated and castrated all resistance just like farmers do with sheep. I can say that because I am a Christian, so it’s fine as the connotations are different.

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              You can’t jump to full authoritarian without going through the first steps. I actually don’t understand your second point at all though, about being a Christian.

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                Sheep hold significant symbolism in Christianity, representing God’s people and their relationship with Jesus as the Good Shepherd. Here are some key points about the symbolism of sheep in Christianity:

                Sheep represent God’s followers who are helpless and in need of guidance, protection, and provision from the Shepherd (Jesus).[1][2] They are portrayed as defenseless, prone to wandering, and entirely dependent on the Shepherd’s care, mirroring humanity’s need for God’s guidance and salvation.

                Jesus refers to himself as the “Good Shepherd” who lays down his life for his sheep (John 10:11).[1][2] This metaphor highlights Jesus’ sacrificial love, leadership, and intimate knowledge of his flock (believers).

                Sheep are contrasted with goats, representing the separation of believers and non-believers on the day of judgment (Matthew 25:31-46).[1] The sheep (believers) will inherit eternal life, while the goats (unbelievers) will face punishment.

                The imagery of a shepherd tenderly caring for his sheep is used to depict God’s compassionate love and attentive care for his people (Isaiah 40:11, Psalm 23).[1][3] Sheep recognize the Shepherd’s voice and follow him, just as believers are called to follow Christ’s guidance.

                Jesus is also called the “Lamb of God” (John 1:29), symbolizing his sacrificial death to take away the sins of the world.[1][3] This connects the imagery of sheep and lambs to Christ’s atoning work on the cross.

                Citations: [1] What is the significance of sheep in the Bible? | GotQuestions.org https://www.gotquestions.org/sheep-in-the-Bible.html [2] Why are Christians Called Sheep? — BLOG POSTS — ILI Team https://iliteam.org/coreleadership/why-are-christians-called-sheep [3] Sheep of Christ https://godcangodcares.com/sheep-of-christ/ [4] Why Jesus compares us to sheep (it’s kinda funny) https://www.christianparenting.org/articles/why-jesus-compares-us-to-sheep-its-kinda-funny/ [5] Christianity literally degrades its own followers by calling them sheep https://www.reddit.com/r/TrueAtheism/comments/jtbv4i/christianity_literally_degrades_its_own_followers/

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                  OK so in your analogy, the government is the shepherd, which is Jesus? Pretty sure that’s not how Christians view the government…