the reporting on this could be better which sucks because it’s obvious it’s going to be memeified for months now
was this actually a church sponsored event or was it just being hosted in the building as a venue?
not coming at this with any assumptions or narratives i just wish there was more reliable original data than some twitter links i can’t look at without an account :/
The pastor agreed to it after being contacted by the trump campaign. here with the pastor’s explanation
It’s still pretty damned telling no black people came to their own church to hear him talk.
He said his parishioners literally laughed in his face when he asked them to come.
ugh bless you thanks so much
edit, my take: wow that pastor seems like an upstanding guy and i would be nervous for his decision if i didn’t have hindsight and see it played out in a way that clearly only showed his guest’s hypocrisy.
I don’t want these people to be in charge of the country. Is that wrong?
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Wait what’s up with the 88 thing
H is the 8th letter of the alphabet. So 88 is a common dog wistle for neo-nazis and white supremacists to say “heil hitler”.
Being born in '88 must suck.
As someone who used his birthyear in his first reddit account i can confirm
It’s a secret-ish Nazi/neonazi sign. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fourteen_Words
TBH the less I hear about Trump aside from his prison sentence, the better. He’s not POTUS, there are real issues to talk about.
What media companies are you talking about? You mention there are some righteous ones but they’re too few and far between. All of the other ones are owned by like 5 right wing billionaires. Those few and far between ones are all we have.
It’s pretty interesting how you somehow turned this into a both sides hyperbole.
So you go on this rant about how mainstream media has assisted the slide into fascism, how Democrats will be the savior or free speech and ethical journalism.
I seem to have missed what the DNC have done to fight back against this slide into fascism for the past 50 years. In fact they actively helped Trump get elected because he’d be easier to beat.
Can you explain what Democratic leaderships plan is to right the list and get this country functioning again?
How do you mentally take rage about the current state of journalism actively ignoring and encouraging Republicans bad behavior to mean “both sides”?
And here you come, saying they are both bad and we shouldn’t concentrate on Trump and instead “what about the democrats!”
Oh, wrong kind of black church, I was trying to figure if he was going to a branch of the satanic temple or what was going on here…
The Satanic Temple come off as solid Democrats if not anarchocommunists or something. If it was a Satanic house of worship, it could possibly be the Church Of Satan (who, at least in Anton LaVey’s time, were dominance-oriented Ayn Rand assholes philosophically indistinguishable from today’s Republican Christianity), or if they’ve mellowed in their old age, the Order of Nine Angles (who, conveniently, are also neo-Nazis).
The Satanic Temple stands against pretty much everything Trump and his cultists stand for, as well as the big money Democrat establishment.
Definitely not ancoms.
Yeah, I forget there are two distinct terms for very different orgs, just more a whimsical thought of some goth cathedral and black sacraments thing.
Wait is this real or a meme
Yes.
Isn’t it normal etiquette to take off the hat in a church?
not really
Traditionally, men should remove their hats during prayers or hymns, whereas women might choose to keep their decorative hats on. However, this practice can vary greatly depending on the denomination and local customs. Observing other attendees and being aware of the norms can help you navigate this aspect with grace. src
given this wasn’t even a service, but just using the space as a venue, i will say that the hats are the least disgusting thing happening in the image
Normal for them. His staff used to sit with their bare feet on the couches in the oval office.
I have no love for his staff, but why is sitting on a couch with your shoes off bad, especially in a high-stress environment?
Maybe because it makes your couch smell like feet? I honestly don’t understand etiquette either.
That would be a different couch from the ones I’ve ever owned.
Sitting sideways on a couch reading a book is quite comfortable and plenty of people (myself included) don’t wear shoes or socks at home, especially in the summer.
99% of “normal etiquette” is just a bunch of outdated rules that make no sense. If even the “return to tradition” crowd is starting to feel comfortable wearing hats to church, it may be a sign that nature is healing.
None of the people wearing a hat in that picture would be able to spell etiquette without a K. They love their Ks.
I like a good multilayered burn
Depends on what’s being burned, and in whose lawn…
Not if the hat wearer bears the mark of the devil on their forehead
Not if the hat wearer bears the mark of the devil on their forehead
We don’t need to see the MAGA mark on their forehead to know its there. The hat on top of it already says MAGA.
Bro they already took off their white hoods in the house of God. Give them a break.
I’m sorry but should a church housing a political rally and supporting a political figure not be all sorts of illegal if theyre tax exempt?
The claim was that it was a roundtable discussion that Trump was a part of.
But of course, every Trump public appearance is a Trump rally.
Well it’s a Good Thing LYING isn’t against the Bible!
I’m sure there are exceptions for when you have to cover up your extramarital affairs with pornstars, when you reeeeeeally wanna keep some top-secret documents for personal use, when you make your money by defrauding others or just feel like keeping people in permanent fear so that they turn to you for salvation. After all, the constitution, which he has very much read, says that he can do absolutely everything with absolute impunity.
A claim that isn’t true and made knowingly is called a lie.
But also any time his lips move and words are produced, they are also called lies.
Alternative truths.
I prefer “the voice of treason”
Only if a Dem does it.
Funny if you to believe any of these clowns have seriously been in a church before.
“In the ordinary moral universe, the good will do the best they can, the worst will do the worst they can, but if you want to make good people do wicked things, you’ll need religion.”
Problem is that if you even read the Gospel of Luke or even Matthew alone, it basically already contradicts a lot of Trumpian rhetoric
This has never stopped anyone, in the contrary, religion demands you to go against evidence and just believe. See https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=John.20.29&version=NIV
Nice way to cherrypick the verse and remove context 🤦
It’s part of a wider account of Thomas literally seeing the risen Christ in front of him and still not believing. So Thomas insists that he touches His wounds. And this is simply Jesus’ response blessing him who believes what he saw with evidence, but also blessing those who haven’t witnessed the resurrection and risen Christ.
So He blessed two groups of believers: Those who critically investigate the resurrection narrative, and those who didn’t feel the need to.
I, personally, fit into the former category.
Nice way of accusing me of removing context while doing it yourself.
Assuming that what is written is true - and not just a folk tale like the Little Red Riding Hood, which is more probable - and that this specific God exists and became his own son and then died and got resurrected.
If we take into account the context that this text has been written several hundreds of years after it happened, anyone alive back then and also today can *only* be one of those who believe without seeing, because we can’t go back in time to experience it ourselves like Thomas or the other apostles did.
So, we can’t be the one “who believes what he saw with evidence”. And we can only be “those who haven’t witnessed the resurrection and risen Christ”. And this is one of the fundamentals of any religion, but especially Christianity where you have to believe in Christ otherwise you will go to hell.
There is also the subtle nuance that if there is evidence then you don’t need to believe, you just know.
With this context, at least I come to the conclusion that “religion demands you to go against evidence and just believe”, otherwise you will go to hell, which nobody wants.
Why?
Some of the worst people I’ve ever known were from when I had to go.
Trump people only “identify as religious” they aren’t the terrible people that traditional attend and hate. Lol I’m sure there is a slight overlap in the Venn Diagram.
Slight overlap?
It’s probably practically a circle.
I live in the Bible belt and can tell you: the evangelical megachurches are chock full of Christian nationalists.
Sure, there are factions in the GOP that don’t really care about religion , but the SCOTUS wouldn’t have overturned Roe if the hardcore religious zealots didn’t work for decades to get it done.
The protesters at abortion clinics were bussed there by the churches a lot of the time; they’re not outliers here. They are the engine that runs the party here in Texas.
Fellow Bible belt dweller. Can confirm.
That’s one wall I wish we could build just separate all those nutjobs
There’s no hate like Christian love.
What “black”?
The parishioners are supposed to be but all these white people REPLACED THEM.
but all these white people REPLACED THEM.
See, white replacement in action! /s
This must be the “replacment” the rightwingers are always taking about.
He must have meant their hearts. A crusted crumbling charcoal heart.
I’m doubt the church is real, because I got no reports of Trump instantly burning to ash the moment he set foot in it.
The church is definitely real. God on the other hand…
So you want god to do the work, that you’re supposed to do? Do we live in a democracy or a theocracy?
Did you reply to the wrong person? Your response to my comment implying that God doesn’t exist makes no sense.
It’s meant for both of these statements. Do we expect god to turn trump into ash or is it our job to build a good society?
“God helps those who help themselves”
“God works through us”
“God chooses imperfect vessels.”
Sorry officer it wasn’t me who threw gasoline on Trump and lit him on fire. God just works in mysterious ways, ya know?
"God gave me a high powered sniper crossbow for a reason, officer. I just made sure His Will was done by executing 5 obviously criminal SCOTUS “justices.”
The implication of GP is that it’s our job to turn Trump to ash (and I think that’s the intended interpretation).
If the USA is a country that is a democracy, can be answered only by a tentative yes for now. There are too many things wrong with the voting system and disenfranchisement and systemic failures around court appointments for a definitive yes.
Apart from that, we live in a world where gods don’t exist, but not everyone agrees on that.
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Source on this?
Is that lincoln in the back there?
Well, I can see many people in there who are not perfect representatives of the Arian Race (people whose hair is not blond enough or whose eyes are brown rather than blue), so they should be counted as black, thus making this a mixed race audience, most of which are black.
/s
He meant black as in its painted black not that it’s predominantly attended by black people.
