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An idling gas engine may be annoyingly loud, but that’s the price you pay for having WAY less torque available at a standstill.

  • surewhynotlem@lemmy.world
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    16 days ago

    It’s exactly this. Convenience. We’ve become accustomed to how convenient it is and don’t want to be put out.

    On the other hand, it’s super convenient to never go to a gas station again, and to wake up to a full tank. So if you drive less than 60 miles a day, and have acess to another car for long trips, an electric is even more convenient.

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      16 days ago

      That’s basically 90% of every car owner.

      It’s one of those things where people feel like they’re going to take a road trip every weekend, but most people are just using their car to commute to and from work and maybe take one or two longer trips per year. The time saved by not having to stop at a gas station throughout the the year is less than the additional time taken at a fast charging station for the rare road trip.

      • ssj2marx@lemmy.ml
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        15 days ago

        It’s wild how little you end up actually needing more than 50 mi range. Even in a spread out California city, I rare use the ICE in my Volt

        • minibyte@sh.itjust.works
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          15 days ago

          Volt, nice choice. I wish there were more plug-in hybrids to choose from. Logically 50 miles on battery would suffice for most of my trips.

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            14 days ago

            PHEV should’ve been the norm with ICE as a rare, overly expensive option. Since 2014 or earlier.

      • jballs@sh.itjust.works
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        15 days ago

        Unfortunately, people tend to buy vehicles to best accomplish 1% of their driving. I live in the suburbs and almost every house has a giant pickup parked in front. Not because people are in the construction business and need to haul a lot of stuff, but because once a year they might go to Home Depot and it feels good to put their two bags of mulch in the back.

        • Fondots@lemmy.world
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          15 days ago

          Part of the problem is not having the money or space for an extra vehicle.

          I drive an SUV, I don’t particularly like driving an SUV, I get a lot of use out of having a larger vehicle, I’m an avid DIYer who makes frequent trips to the hardware store to pick up lumber and such, I have a lot of outdoor hobbies and usually end up being the one who drives so I’m carrying gear for several people, I don’t exactly go off roading, but those hobbies sometimes take me on some poorly maintained, deeply rutted, muddy roads and 4wd has gotten me out of some jams, I occasionally drive onto the beach to go fishing, usually find myself towing a small trailer a couple times a year, and I’m an essential employee that lives in an area that gets snow with a weird schedule that usually has me commuting before the snow plows have gotten through everywhere.

          But even though I probably get more actual use out of an SUV than most people, most often I’m still only driving about 20 miles or less a day, on paved roads, in weather that doesn’t require anything more than working headlights, wipers, and tires that aren’t totally bald.

          If I had the budget and parking space I’d probably have the cheapest base model EV I could find for most of my commuting and small errands and save the SUV for my days off and when it snows. That’s not the case though.

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          14 days ago

          If they use a camper or heavy trailer even four times per year, fine whatever keep your truck. The other millions of Americans should’ve just rented a vehicle when they needed it, and it would’ve been far cheaper and more convenient to have their daily driver as a regular sized sedan.

        • piecat@lemmy.world
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          15 days ago

          The last time I heard someone say that, they were taking about bidets, and it was life changing.

    • mortalic@lemmy.world
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      15 days ago

      Or just use the clothes dryer circuit… Charge the car overnight… Get all the range.

      • LordKitsuna@lemmy.world
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        15 days ago

        You don’t even need the clothes dryer circuit, the vast majority of people don’t drive enough in a day to need anything more than a standard 15a outlet

    • merc@sh.itjust.works
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      15 days ago

      it’s super convenient to never go to a gas station again, and to wake up to a full tank

      But, to make that possible, you basically have to have a “gas station” at home. If you own your own house you can modify it to install a charging spot. If you rent, you might not have that option.

      • Robert7301201@slrpnk.net
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        14 days ago

        All EVs come with Level 1 chargers that plug in to your standard house outlet, NEMA 5-15R. If there’s an outlet nearby you can charge your car.

        That can still be difficult for apartment renters, but there’s no need to modify your house.