Don’t censor the word tits ya fucking prude!
I didn’t want to break the NSFW rules… in case it did.
Unless it’s actually a pair of them then no, and if some mod says otherwise then I don’t want to use their children’s internet
Thanks for being so cool and letting tit enthusiasts have a place to be themselves.
It’s not a pair, didn’t you read, it’s five of them!
We’ll make our own internet…and we’ll bring back the blackjack and hookers.
Honestly censoring it like this just calls more attention to it. Had it not been censored I’d have just read the word and moved on. Had it been censored but using the same colour as the background I’d have read it, spent some time thinking “I hate this trend of censoring benign uses of language to bypass big social media companies’ filters, but I guess it’s necessary” (because I’d have assumed you grabbed this from a Twitter or Facebook post).
But censoring with a big red squiggle, the first thing I read was tits. All the downsides of the subtle censoring, but then it also gets seen over and over again because it visually stands out so much.
Not a mod here, but I don’t see how written tits could be a problem. Hell, artsy tits should probably be fine too. Sexual tits are, I’m pretty sure, the actual line.
Censor normal words and make people wonder what they even are or if they’re bad now.
This works great with religious songs and bleeping.
Like this?
█████ ██ █ ████ Everything ███ █████ is ████ ██ ████ fine ████ ███ █ █████ love. █████ █████ ███ your ████ ████ government
TIL I’m in a abusive relationship with my government.
Better late than never.
i tried tapping those boxes way too many times to see the text behind them…
*ay.
C**tainly
The fuck you just say to me?
Cuntainly
1 AI search uses the equivalent of 10 google searches…
Just imagine how much power you’re using up browsing the web lol.
AI is not making or breaking power grids, water sources, or any other bullshit alarmist prop you’re peddling like AI isn’t being used all over from image generation, checking your shitty grammar, or saving us all time from writing bullshit proper emails every day.
LLMs are 5 tits of awesome that I’ll be suckling on every chance I get.
Large Language Model searches are distinct from text-to-image generative “AI” image processing. Generative image AI uses more energy.
Also Google searches are AI searches now.
Yep, I’m familiar with it. More from previous comments since these disingenuous memes get pedaled here regularly. People love to spout stats about AI in data centers that aren’t just used for AI without having any sense of how much CO2 is produced from really really common stuff lol. Let alone it being contingent on being run in non-renewable powered areas.
1 AI search = 10 google searches. https://www.snexplores.org/article/green-artificial-intelligence-less-energy-ai-climate
How about watching TikTok? 30 minutes of video daily = 28kg of carbon a year. https://www.globalcitizen.org/en/content/social-media-emissions-carbon-footprint/ or https://www.comparethemarket.com.au/energy/features/social-carbon-footprint-calculator/ or https://yoast.com/carbon-footprint-of-website/
Oh no 1/5 a city’s water! They use 770,000 gallons a day… So it uses 154,000 gallons of water for an entire piece of critical infrastructure that keeps the internet running. For the entire data center lol.
https://www.newsweek.com/why-ai-so-thirsty-data-centers-use-massive-amounts-water-1882374
A real common citation is how much carbon it takes to initially train these too. 500 tons of carbon dioxide… That’s the only 33/334,000,000 Americans worth of CO2 for the year lol.
https://climate.mit.edu/ask-mit/how-much-ton-carbon-dioxide
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/ais-climate-impact-goes-beyond-its-emissions/
You sound very angry and defensive. And you will continue to do so after evidence shows that AI has had a negative impact on the environment. On the bright side, the end of humanity will mean that people being angry and defensive won’t exist either, which will be nice.
Angry and defensive? Sounds like they are saying AI is ten times less efficient than what we’ve already built but they are fine with that because of the convenience the new tool offers them. They seem like they are attempting humor more than expressing anger to me.
They seem like they are attempting humor
Ha, yes, “bullshit alarmist prop” truly is a very funny phrase!
The environmental impact is interesting, if an AI search being as environmentally impactful as 10 Google searches is true.
I don’t know about you, but it often takes a number of Google searches for me to find the right information, whereas with AI and Google combined I usually get the info I need in 1/2 Google searches.
That means that, based on my personal experience, AI is probably more environmentally efficient at getting me the correct info than google search alone.
Try using the duckduckgo search engine. I switched recently and the search results are way better than Google now. I get what I’m looking for first try more often than not.
I have the opposite issue with DDG and it’s been my default search engine for a year now. I frequently have to try bing or Google or cheat and just use reddit for specific info just like I did with Google.
DDG is terrible at indexing certain info though and really only hits some of the biggest sites.
Trying to vaguely search for stuff is an absolute crapshoot on DDG.
DDG is bing though, is it not?
That’s interesting, I’ve been having way better luck digging around on ddg. Google just seems to serve up ads when I’m trying to research a company or something and won’t give me what I’m looking for.
Maybe its the types of things I search for though. It’s really hard to sayI think a large part of it is whether you know what you’re searching for already. If you have a good idea of what it is already then you can generally find it. If you’re already good at using search terms or syntax it’s always helpful but it was the same for Google.
Simply put though Google just scrapes waaaaaaay more data so it’s going to have more to index from.
Either way it’s just one tool. Just like I’m using Bing for porn over either lol.
https://duckduckgo.com/duckduckgo-help-pages/results/syntax/
The ai results from Google I have been getting are less helpful than two specific searches. It could be because of how we search for things and it is definitely getting messed with because of seo weighting and ai targeting those tools, so I think a better option would be to teach people how to actually use the search engines properly instead of just sitting back and letting ais pick up slack.
My scenario is that I use chatgpt to get context and terminology in the area I’m researching.
I then know how to do more specific Google searches (only 1/2).
So effectively 11-12 searches vs 2.
I guess it adds up to 12 searches worth of environmental impact with chatgpt+Google (10 searches worth from chatgpt, 2 from Google)
When I use Google alone it’s often the same as that if not more. Sometimes it’s less if I already know the subject matter, but in those scenarios I would usually give just Google a go first anyway.
Basically chatgpt often either gives me the answer or a much better starting place for what to Google.
I don’t understand the chatgpt bit still. When you say you need more context on the subject matter, you could search for the wiki or a forum and get the same information chatgpt is pulling without the impact.
AI has a negative impact on the environment today (because of energy use) but it could also result in breakthroughs in battery and power generation technology that enable us to overcome our energy problems. It’s already having a huge impact with things like medicine and was a key component in recent advancements in fusion reactor design (which would be the thing that saves us from our energy problems).
It’s not all LLM and image generation.
but it could also
If the last 20 years has taught us anything, I think it should be to hold back on assuming that technology makes the world better without significant drawbacks.
That does not sound angry in the slightest.
How about instead of strawmanning their emotional state, why don’t you be a better person?
Agreed, there is no sound, because this medium is purely text-based, so we have limited information. This is why saying things like “be a better person” can come off as silly.
1 image of a girl with 5 tits
This comment isn’t about the genocide in Palestine. You’re complicit in the system and endorsing genocide.
Fuck off. This is irrelevant and unnecessary.
This dude is an asshole who endorses vandalizing public libraries if it supports his political narrative. If he’s in favor of people shouting their opinion where it isn’t wanted, them I’m sure he’ll be in favor of my comment.
Those are Great
It’s a nice set of peckers.
One is blue
A tits a tit. I don’t care what color they are, big or smole.
I love them all.
Username checks out.
That’s 7 tits.
This guy counts
Gee almost as if capitalism is the actual underlying issue.
The really juicy bit is the hypocrisy of asking common people to refrain from consuming.
“Fuck you plebe” would at least have the positive of being honest.
That’s history. The ones with the means hoard anything of value while blaming the commons for their problems. Doesn’t matter if it’s the Irish Potato Famine or telling us global warming is our fault because we didn’t buy enough greenwashed shit to fix it.
The Irish famine was more of a result of imperial policy. It’s about genocidal states, not capitalism. I mean, yes, most of Ireland was owned by landlords residing elsewhere, and “protection” of their rights was one of the reasons, but there were also things quite obviously showing the intent, like widespread destruction of church records and local history.
It can both be about profit and genocide. They can exist at the same time. IOW, genocide can be profitable.
There really was a motive, if you wish, to use the land freed by expelled (or dead) tenants for something else.
I just don’t like blaming things on markets and profit motives and capitalism in general, because “tit for tat” in human interactions is not something you can just replace ideologically. It’s in our nature. The sane approach is to make it work in less catastrophic ways, like with sports and video games and martial arts and adult entertainment.
I think profit and power, or the lack thereof, can be the root of a lot of these awful human traits. It can just be straight up greed driven by a few looking to gain power and/or money that push an agenda of [insert tried and true bogeymen here like xenophobia, religion, racism, etc.] to create motives and instabity to trigger the wars. It could be genuine problems like economic issues or severe agricultural deficiency, via real misfortune or more likely due to greed, corruption, and mismanagement by the country’s leadership. Even religion can be the rationalization, a tit-for-tat, but nonetheless the end result is to take that the enemy has. It doesn’t have to be formalized markets or capitalism.
Free market economics are going to slurp any extra watt as long as it’s capable of making a modicum of profit, unless it is just told “no”. The private sector is going to have to pay far more for their power, or else we’ll never reach NET zero emissions.
“bUt ThInK aBoUt ThE eCoNoMy!!”
- Everytime, anyone every mentions any of the many unfair advantages that businesses are getting.
Just replace “economy” with “rich peoples money” to translate.
Perhaps people would give a shit about the economy if we could afford to own a house?
There’s no free market. Free market would mean no copyright, no patents, no brand protection. With real free market (provided you have endless energy from Satan knows where to support that state of things) we’d have noname small to medium businesses coming and going, bigger corporations existing for very complex supply chains and\or some advantageous trade secrets.
That would potentially cause stagnation in some long perspective, but fix the current situation.
Are you suggesting we harvest portals to hell for unlimited free energy? Genius!
Well, there is a joke about Chernobyl station fulfilling the 5-year plan for energy output in 5 seconds.
I meant that to protect that free market from various people trying to make it less free in their favor you’d need that energy. Which is why it’ll never reach that state.
And removing those very important limitations I named is very hard, even unrealistic maybe, but that doesn’t mean that it’s adequate to pretend that a market including them is free. They change everything.
I was referencing Doom, where free energy was one of the excuses for the hell portals.
Now I’m wondering how you draw a girl with 5 text-to-speech (tts) programs.
ASCII
All I see are dwarves in a fortress, how about you?
draw a Hatsune Miku
A girl with 5 tits?!
That’s disgusting. Where?
I can be your friend whom you are asking this question for
Makes me wish I had five hands.
So you can give them tiddies five thumbs down?
Your face, both feet, both hands
Whats her contact?? also amen and godbless
How long would anyone even live at 79 degrees though?
Assuming °F, you can survive that indefinitely as long as you wear light clothing, you’re not in direct sunlight, you don’t have a medical condition that affects things, and it’s not too humid.
While doing normal work or while at rest? Real big difference there.
While doing anything… 70F is pretty much perfect temp for most people. You’ll cool down fairly quickly after any heavy activity and will be safe during said activity unless you’re in direct sun, not drinking, and not taking breaks, but all that is true in nearly any temp.
70F is roughly 20C
Cool, but that’s 70 and not 79. Sure it’s only a few degrees swing but that still matters. We’re also looking at water shortages in a good number of places so counting on that being a ready supply is not necessarily true.
65 is a real nice temperature to survive at too though a little on the cooler side but it’s not what we were talking about.
79 is still pretty nice. Depending of the humidity, you might not even need AC, just fans
Cool, that’s still not answering the question. What level of work can a body do under standard conditions at 79 F, without overheating? That changes with humidity so at break points of 40, 60, and 80% how does that affect the body? What you think feels nice is not what I was asking.
Have you… not been outside before? 79 isn’t very hot. Shocking fact: A/C was invented in the 20th century. Humans and summers were invented way, way before that. Do you think farmers just spontaneously combusted every summer before the advent of A/C? I know many farmers that don’t have A/C to this day, and they work sun up to sun down all summer long with no problems.
79 degrees would barely be considered hot in large swaths of the world. You can live and work in relative comfort at 79 degrees. It’s pretty absurd to me that you even need to ask this question. People run 135 mile ultramarathons in Death Valley where temperatures get up to 130 degrees.
Not everyone sits inside an air conditioned cube on a computer or console all day.
if they’re american: until they’re 70, if they’re not american: no
Hey they could also be Liberian
Like that works in a Liberi?
I don’t get yer joke.
70c is 158f, steak is well done at that temp.
I’m not a food scientist, but I thought 165 was safe temps for meat.
165 for birds and wild game, 145 for beef and pork.
Data centers with AI won’t be in cities.
Hosting will be where it’s cheap, and that’s not in Phoenix or Vegas, except those things that must be near-line. Deep thought shit will be in rural Oregon or Virginia, where juice more plentiful and trouble is not.
Sooooo, false equivalence.
Texas power grid is a special case though.
It’s the same issue with all power grids, the one in the city isn’t separate from the one in rural locations, hell over here the longest main line is over 1000km long, that’s a whole lot of locations getting their electricity from the same place
Do your goalposts have wheels?
The bulk of datacenters in Virginia are not in a rural area at all. The Northern Virginia area is the datacenter capital of the world, and they are all in urban/suburban areas. Check it out for yourself.
Yeah, there’s a bunch of DCs in Vegas.
I, for one, welcome our hot, five-titty future
I’ve got solar panels and AC. I’m keeping the house at meat locker freezing while staying within the solar panel production. Might as well use the power when it’s there.
Some people will complain about using AC in general. They can sweat all they want - I’m keeping cool.
If everyone had solar panels and thought like you, we’d still have globe warming
Energy is heat. There’s no such thing as cold, just lack of heat.
Trapping sun rays then releasing hot air warms the planet. That’s what your system is doing. Removing heat from your house and putting it outside while your electric motor throws out extra heat.
It just doesn’t have the air pollution that burning coal or gas does.
I am, in fact, quite aware of how air conditioners work :D A lot of devices work like this; it’s why a refrigerator and freezer generate heat. And why things like a slushy machine are real power hogs. Basically, anything that gets things cool will generate heat elsewhere.
Thing is, a refrigerator and freezer are very much needed in daily life. An air conditioner thankfully isn’t - yet. But on days where we have 25+ celsius, the aircon is the difference between being sweaty, irritable, unproductive and with poor sleep or… perfectly comfortable. So, we choose to not be miserable. It keeps me sane during heatwaves.
But yes, absolutely nobody should own one. And I highly encourage everybody else not to get one. I’m keeping mine though.
That light was already going to turn into heat. That’s where basically everything but nuclear power came from.
Unless you have actual, credible researched math on the climate impact we’re all going to ignore you.
In total approximately 70% of incoming radiation is absorbed by the atmosphere and the Earth’s surface while around 30% is reflected back to space and does not heat the surface. The Earth radiates energy at wavelengths much longer than the Sun because it is colder
https://wmo.int/suns-impact-earth#:~:text=In total approximately 70%25 of,Sun because it is colder.
No, the energy captured by solar panels wasn’t already going to turn into heat to be released and trapped by earth’s atmosphere.
How big is your solar panel set up? I’ve been thinking of getting one of those solar generators, the smaller ones, and just using as much a/c as I can power with that. It probably wouldn’t last too long, right? I’d need a bigger set up?
We’ve got nine panels on the south facing roof. Right now, reasonably sunny day, they produce about 3.6 -3.7 Kw. That amply covers the power consumption of one of the two LG aircons we have. Those take about 2.5 kW. We usually just run one, depending on outside temp.
I’m not really familiar with solar generators in general, but that feels like you’d need a pretty beefy one to keep an AC powered.
You’d be surprised. A little window rattler AC could be powered by such a setup - ie I have a 1.6kw cooling A/C with an input rating of 490W, I’ve measured it to be around that. That will cool a bedroom somewhat. The issue will be the surge power when the compressor kicks in, so maybe add 50%.
Can’t sell your excess power to the grid?
Here in the Netherlands, the panels are wired into the grid so you’re always delivering back and not using that power directly. What happens is, they basically deduct the power generated from the power you’ve used. This crediting system will eventually disappear, as too many people are feeding back solar power.
For all intents and purposes, as long as we generate more than we use, we’re paying nothing except grid charges and taxes. So if you’ve got a low energy use day and plenty of solar, there’s really no reason not to run an AC (or a washer/dryer, etc)
They’re making that increasingly difficult. Basically, as more and more people get solar it becomes economically impossible to maintain the grid with millions of people being paid to connect to it.
The result is a higher and higher percentage of your power bill not be for “use” but for some other bullshit.
Because of the crazy power rate spikes during one of the Texas freezes, my power bill gets like a bunch added to it as a recovery fee for like the next 15 years. Then there’s the connection fee, maintenance fee, etc. My bill is like $300-400 a month before the first milliwatt is calculated, which makes solar less-viable. I’m paying a huge power bill no matter what (illegal to disconnect from the grid entirely), so payments towards a $50,000 solar setup would just make it more expensive.
I might save 20-40 bucks on my electric bill, but the extra $250 in payments for solar would kill that.
Yeah that’s been an anticipated problem, since home solar is essentially a lost customer for the utility, but infrastructure maintenance costs don’t change. Honestly the power grid shouldn’t be a commercial enterprise, even if it’s under shit tons of regulation. It’s so absurdly critical to society we should have nationalized the power companies a long time ago.
Kind of like our railroads? Or the internet?
Yeah… Right now California residents are paying massively inflated rates because the utility board decided that PG&E, a company that is literally a convicted killer, can pass the cost of the fines on to customers.
Yeah, if it’s a problem that our power grid is having distributed green energy connected all over the place, we need to make the damn utilities change.
ngl, this is my lifelong goal. Have a house and being able to install and own green technology. Too bad that’s mostly out of reach for anyone born in the 90’s.
That’s ok as long as your solar panels also provide all your needs so you don’t have to put load on the grid that could be put on your solar setup otherwise (if you’re in a sector that’s currently under alert).
I keep mine at 80 24/7. Not too warm not to cold, and keeps the humidity out so no sweat
Not too warm? How do you sleep at 80? At 74 I’m calling to get the A/C checked, 72 is the highest ‘acceptable’ temp indoors.
Maybe for you. I have worked and lived in 100+ degree temps dor decades so i guess have become used to it. 72 actually brings me to shivers if im not moving around in it.
I guess we all operate a little differently, been in tx and surrounding for decades too. I’d trade, I wish I wasn’t sweating at 80, would save on my electric bill
Damn that’s hot.
Its only hot when youre used to living in the northern climates. Here in texas its quite comfortable after a long day outside
I absolutely live in a Northern climate
Californian here, the fuck it is. Hot is at minimum high 80s but thats only with high UV low UV an the minimum is low 90s.
Swede here, even 23 degrees (Celsius of course) is pretty hot when it’s in the sun and it’s not windy.
It’s not terribly hot or anything but it’s still hot.
If there is no wind and it’s very sunny it’s hot and on the edge of being uncomfortable in normal clothes.
26c?
laughs in Australian
Same with water usage. Everybody has to reduce water, not wash cars while industry and agriculture who use like ¾ of the water don’t do anything
Last I ran the numbers, industry and agriculture used 98% of the water. This being in CA.
Yes because washing cars is much less important than growing food
Sure but growing water intensive crops in the desert is also not logical.
Why don’t humans migrate with the seasons? Are we dumber then birds?
People who live in the desert and then complain about not spraying their giant hunk of metal with water are definitely dumber than birds
Yep… phoenix, Tucson, LV, all of those need to be vacated and the populations moved somewhere useful like the Midwest where they can help grow crops somewhere that makes sense
The US massively overproduces food. We absolutely can afford to not water some of those crops.
lol fresh food is like all public health and wellbeing is non existent unless its been heavily industrialised to make as much money out of it as possible.
The US massively overuses cars. You can absolutely afford to not wash your car.
If you wash a car it uses less fuel. Dirt makes cars less aerodynamic.
If the cars are overused that means they require more maintenance, not less. I want walkable places but that’s not the argument to make lol
We can do both.
You can just… not wash your car. It literally doesn’t matter. If water rationing is in effect, washing your car should be the least of your concerns.
If you don’t wash your car and you’ll get corrosion from the salt on the road. If you live where it snows of course.
This person is talking about being from the desert, so yeah, no sympathy here. The Fremen could figure out that water shouldn’t be wasted when it’s scarce.
I don’t care about washing my car. I care that they’re moderating our car washing while allowing foreign businessmen to use as much water as they want on hay that gets exported. And that could be fine if they were doing it in the Mid West. No, they’re doing it in Phoenix, Arizona. A region that knows it’s counting down to a zero day.
So while I’m not washing my car, they shouldn’t be watering those crops.
Not washing cars results in long term damage to the car. If you have a 200k mile shitbox with peeling clear coat, sure, you don’t need to wash it because it probably won’t matter.
If you have something nice with good paint, washing is an important maintenance item
Juts search for “AI water consumption” or “data center water consumption”. I’ll agree that “we could be using this to wash our cars” is a silly argument, but water shortages affect between 2 and 3 billion people every year (https://www.unesco.org/en/articles/imminent-risk-global-water-crisis-warns-un-world-water-development-report-2023). We could be doing more with this water than cloud computing and AI.
Right, so agricultural was a bad example.
Not really. Look at California agriculture. You’ve got immense and unsustainable amounts of water going to almonds, pistachios, and other cash crops (not to mention animal feed for the Saudis) with voracious demand for more water, despite it causing damage to the water sources.
If you can’t imagine a world without eating meat, yes.
Wait a sec, how do they consume water for cooling, i thought it’s in a closed loop as its purpose is only transferring heat
Some facilities is do this. They’re not 100% efficient, so some is lost to evaporation, some must be dumped because it has too much mineral content (and too much conductivity) to go back through the cooling system. Reusing is only about 50% efficient (according to Google’s numbers).
Half a liter per kilowatt hour. That’s the average water use
It’s like the idea of recycling plastics with water.
Not all of it is reusable to the same degree. A good portion of water has to be evaporated off to cool down the exterior towers plus water isn’t really infinitely usable in these loops. It gets gross or full of materials.Another thing that people need to remember is generating electricity uses the water here as we literally don’t use many methods that don’t involve water, we are not on a green grid and neither are these huge data centers for the most part. We boil it for the electricity then have to use additional to clean the system after.
On a standard PC, you can easily have a loop because the radiator is big enough to exhause all that heat. But when your computer or cluster puts out multiple thousands of watts of heat, eventually you need to get rid of tge hot water and replace it with cold water. And when it gets even hotter, you need a steady stream of cold water that immediately gets dumped.
We need more AIs not humans. Perhaps try living life like people do in third world. They never complain about dying from heat because they aren’t a pampered candy ass who get spoiled spoonfed.
Obvious troll is obvious.
The irony here is most AI is “mundane” and not diffusion or LLM AI.
For instance… the “AI” X is using to produce feeds ingest posts, serve ads and such.
X, Facebook and so on are the real villains here, and Mastadon, Lemmy, and (I guess?) Bluesky are the heroes, skipping all that attention optimization nonsense.
Lemmy has a curated algorithm doesn’t it?
It’s not a hyper personalized model of users running on GPUs.
