I get it, Biden is old and that’s a problem, but why doesn’t anyone seem to have a problem with the fact that Trump is almost the same age, has 34 felonies, raped at least 2 women, went to Epstein’s Island 11 times, sexualized his own daughter, stole classified documents, aligned himself with Xi and Putin, and can’t remember common names?
Is all of that really better than being 2½ years older than he is right now?
The American people called for him to dropout in 2020. He didn’t listen.
I didnt hear this. Maybe because I was too far away in europe, but it didnt seem, that the US had enough of this pussygrabber
He lost the election. Twice, actually. He’s never won the popular vote. He was only the president because of a broken system.
It just doesn’t really sound like "people called him to drop out, if almoat 50% of a country vote directly for him
Correction: 33% of the eligible voters.
66% of eligible voters voted in the 2020 election. Almost half of those voted for Trump. That’s 33% of eligible American voters.
Also, not all Americans are eligible to vote: felons in certain States, non-registered adults, children, etc.
I may just be being pedantic but it annoys me when I see people claim that half of America supports Trump/fascism when it’s just not true. The number is probably closer to 28% of Americans.
Yeah thats right, I didnt know the hard numbers thats on me.
But you need to really overthink you government system over there, because the guy 30% of you want destroys alot more than the trust in the US system.
Cool story.
More than half of us have had enough. I’m not sure what’s wrong about the others…
The problem the Republican party seems to have right now is that it’s caught in a bizarre cult of personality, where the only viable candidate is Donald Trump. Eight years have been dedicated to a man that likely won’t be around for another eight due to his age and lifestyle. Donald Trump can’t drop out, because to many he IS the Republican Party.
Put succinctly, if Trump were to drop out, could you realistically see him backing another candidate, without making it about himself?
In some ways it’s petrifying that Trump could win. In another, it’s hilarious to think that IF Trump were to lose, how would the Republicans recover in four years? Trump will never not make it about himself, and I bet he’ll put himself on the ballot for as long as he can, further eroding the right.
Because Trump is very deeply popular with a huge voter block. Going against him means he’ll just point those people at you and say “this guy’s bad, also probably a pedophile or some shit idk” and then your career is over.
And he knows what a pedo is, having lived it for much of his adult life
Because suggesting your enemy do things is meaningless.
If a democrat fucks up, that’s big news because they’re supposed to have their shit together and act in the best interest of all of us.
If a republican fucks up, that’s expected. Any articles about that are like ‘water is wet’. It’s not informative because we all know, even the conservatives who vote for them, that they’re in it for themselves and are out to get everyone else.
Not sure what you mean, I think he should be dropped out with a bullet to his face.
He is not aligned with China or Xi Xinping, this is a weird projection. China and their government are threatened by Americans and American politicians not supportive of them. Both US parties want a war with China.
Lol no one wants war with another nuclear power.
I wonder how a civil war would work out with nukes…
Reckless American foreign policy is arming Taiwan to the teeth right now for this purpose. Nobody rational wants a war with a nuclear power but Americans are sick in the head and desperate to hold on to pax Americana and will use nuclear terror to do it.
There is no way that arming Taiwan results in Taiwan starting a war of aggression against China.
What arming Taiwan does is make it an increasingly bad idea for China to invade Taiwan. It’s a deterrent to make sure the nuclear power who constantly threatens Taiwan (read: China) doesn’t think they can just go and take what they want without consequence, and probably commit a little genocide on the side.
You know, like Ukraine.
Great so you can turn them into Ukraine, Iraq and Afghanistan. Your empire has a fantastic track record with this, they must be so blessed for your help.
Defending Taiwan against communist China has been US foreign policy since Harry Truman was in office.
So The Americans had really bad policy for 80 years what does that change? Weapons shipments have ramped up and you are indebting that island to your financial and military support. They’re choosing guns over butter to pay for this, transferring their wealth to American stock owning oligarchs. Best case scenario is you push millions of Taiwanese to death for a war that will only enrich the American empire and military offensive manufacturers and it turns into Ukraine or Iraq. Only with Taiwan destroyed does the plans for building chip fabs in America make sense though so that seems like a benefit not a problem for the military companies. The American empire is reckless and evil, they did the same thing to my homeland of Iran with the arming to the teeth and indebting. They funded a king led military dictatorship so vicious and so financially onerous the people chose Islamic fundamentalism to escape it.
I’m Canadian
It’s not age. It’s competency. There’s 100 year olds that are more competent than Biden. I’m not calling Biden stupid. I’m saying like the rest of the fkin world has been saying for the past few years, Biden’s mind is degrading.
Because nobody expected him to do anything but lie through his teeth and shit his pants.
Check and check.
Trump controls a cult, that’s why.
Cult leaders can get their followers to do anything and the followers will forgive the leader for anything, including felonies. They will dismiss any criticism of the leader as lies or made up to hurt the leader politically. No matter how true the criticism might be.
At the end of the day, it’s very much like the relationship between religious worshippers and their god.
Because, realistically, he won’t listen.
Biden won’t either, because he’s already proved he can win this race and you don’t retire a winning horse.
you don’t retire a winning horse
REMEMBER: You need that horse for working right AFTER the race.
You and I need that. Does the DNC?
No, i do not need any of these clowns.
What is a dnc?
The Democratic National Committee - the ruling elite of the Democratic Party. I’m saying the people want effective governance but the party just wants power.
The President is a figurehead, their administration do 99% of the work.
I keep seeing this sentiment, and it boggles me. Last season’s winning horse just debuted this season with a huge limp, and the response from some people has been “it’s fine, stop panicking, we’ll win if we just keep betting on it.”
Also, his debates last time weren’t… ideal, but he at least remained awake during them!? Anyway, I’m with you: I understand someone wanting him to win, but how on earth can this be considered a done deal already?
There is a time and a place to stop all questions and get to work. But we aren’t there yet!? And being ready to change one’s mind based on the most current set of facts is literally the hallmark of the Age of Enlightenment, as opposed to e.g. the divine right of rulers to continue for as long as they wish to?
at least remained awake during them
It’s fine if you want to criticize Biden, but can we stop with the Sleepy Joe bullshit? It’s nothing but Trump’s political slander.
You’re right, it’s worse than being sleepy, it’s dramatic dementia and cognitive decline.
Cognitive decline, probably at his age, but dementia? Says which medical professional? lol
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Please note, I’m not suggesting to not vote Democrat. Also, the sleepy Joe stuff back then was different than it was here during this debate?
Three fucking years, Joe being senile was a “conspiracy theory” and then they trot captain Alzheimer’s out
Tbf it really did seem a conspiracy theory back when it started. He used to be fairly energetic, despite being old. But, time passes.
The problem now is that unlike conservatives, liberals don’t take as kindly to being lied to, and to say that he’s both too old to speak and also not too old to be President… it just doesn’t sit right.
Particularly when the same wing of the party was utterly vicious about Sanders’ age when he was 75 back in 2016.
Case by case basis. Sanders, Trump, etc, not too old yet, Biden too old despite being numerically the same.
Yes, not the whole thing, but I watched enough and I’m not even American. Is there a specific part you’d like to point out?
This is also relevant and worth considering: https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-election/biden-quips-almost-fell-asleep-onstage-debate-rcna160075
Also, can you type normally, please? I’m not sure what your formatting is trying to convey but it feels either sarcastic or condescending for no good reason.
I think the part where he finally beat medicare is the best example.
That’s a funny bit of fumbling. Reminds me of Bush’s “You can’t get fooled again” and the other contender’s own brand of hilarious fumbling and ramblings.
Trump has 88 really good reasons not to drop out. Without control of the justice system he’s going to be in jail for the rest of his life and republicans have shackled themselves to him.
I don’t know if you’ve been not paying attention but even if he’s not elected, he will never see the inside of a jail cell. Trump is untouchable. I’m not sure why, most people speculate he has dirt on some very powerful people - really serious dirt on many really powerful people. That’s only speculation, but if you recall during his first campaign he bragged about how much he was loved and worshiped he said he could walk out of Trump tower onto Fifth Avenue, and shoot someone dead in broad daylight and he would never face any consequences whatsoever. And he was right.
This isn’t 2020 though, at this point in 2020 Biden had a 8 point lead on Trump and even then he only won a narrow victory in the electoral college with Pennsylvania, Arizona and Wisconsin, now he’s down by 2 points overall and down even worse in those swing states. Then he was a relative unknown and people were willing to give him a shot against the known evil of trump . Now people have gotten to see him and they do not like what they see, his approval rating is worse then Trump’s was at the depths of the pandemic.
This isn’t 2020 though,
Tell your superiors at the troll farm they need to change the script. Too many of you using the same exact phrasing is giving you away, tovarish.
Where is this reasoning that “Biden should withdraw” is a Russian talking point coming from besides the paranoid delusions of liberals who blame everything bad on Russia. Putin knows even less then us on whether Biden withdrawing would be good or bad for trump.
It’s not even like this is a fringe idea any more, members of the house are calling for him to step down and even pelosi thinks it’s a legitimate question, are they Russian trolls? We need to have a serious discussion on this and not dismiss the other side as a psyop like alex Jones, otherwise we’re gonna let inertia carry us to a loss like in 2016.
Where is this reasoning that “Biden should withdraw” is a Russian talking point coming from besides the paranoid delusions of liberals who blame everything bad on Russia.
They don’t blame everything bad on Russia. They blame everything they don’t like on Russia. It’s why they scream that anyone who says Biden should stop supporting genocide is a Russian.
You do when the Kentucky Derby is next week and it’s got a broken leg
A winning horse?!
It’s hard to imagine how you could pick a horse less likely to win.
Biden won’t either, because he’s already proved he can win this race and you don’t retire a winning horse.
this isn’t 2020. it’s 2024, and a different race. Trump has had 4 years to retcon (or rather double down?) on his reputation. (whatever, he’s had four years to shore up his support.). Further, in 2020… the war in ukraine hadn’t started yet, neither had the Israeli genocide in gaza; the Pandemic was still on-going (and trump was fucking up left right and center on that.)
the point being, the circumstances are different and Biden has a lot of baggage he’s carrying- especially lately with Gaza. As they say in stocks: Past performance is not an indicator of future performance.
It’s going to be a battle, and I’m not sure Biden can win.
That said, Trump belongs in jail. (or the grave. I make exceptions for certain things. like being a rapist pedophile traitor.)
In a sane world, that should be enough for a cardboard cut out of Yogi Bear to win. I used to think that Princess Amidala being 14 and the planetary head of state was hilariously unrealistic, yet here we are hoping to elect an asshole that supports genocide because the other guy is a cartoon villain that would happily genocide his own citizens because they didn’t let him do his pedophile-rape thing. It’s the kind of plot Palpatine would appreciate.
Republican candidates aren’t held to the same standards because Republican voters don’t care (or they actually like it).
Republican candidates aren’t held to the same standards because Republican voters are absolute morons
He gave them $1,600 in stimulus checks. Some of the poorer people think he’ll make things more affordable for people, lower costs, make crypto better, and essentially just rain down money. They have to think of their families future, and apparently they think Trump will do that. They don’t care what he’s done, he’s a means to an end, and if they can wrap an American flag around him, profess him the new Messiah, and ban abortions to do it, they will.
Republicans are either extremely ignorant or they just lack any and all empathy. They get their news from Fox that shields them from the truth, and they live in constant fear of blood-drinking evil liberals, illegal racist/murderer aliens, and that their money is being stolen from them by undesirables that feed off the system.
Their entire world view is a facade to make rich people richer and their ignorance of that makes them expendable pawns. It’d be comical if it wasn’t so tragic…
The people calling for Biden to drop out are completely different from the people who want Trump to stay in the race.
Democrats want Biden to drop out because they don’t believe he can beat Trump.
Republicans want Trump to stay on the ticket because they’re pretty sure he’ll crush Biden .
I would gladly have Trump drop out. It won’t happen. Trump is running to save his own ass. For my part, I have grave doubts about Biden’s ability to win that have been building for a few months but came sharply into focus during the first minute of that debate.
His base are enthusiastically slobbering on his c**k, and most prominent politicians for the gqp seem to be lining up to holster it when his base are done. Not to mention the supreme
crunchwrapcourt are in love with him too.fyi most Lemmy instances do not censor slurs, so unlike YouTube and Xitter you don’t have to worry about that here
You can say cock on the Internet. No one will tell on you.
That’s it, I’m reporting you.
/s just in case
Send me to jail, offsir
COCK POLICE REPORTING FOR DUTY
Cocky.
True, and i have said all kinds of stuff in the internet but i dont want to too much. :p
Someone knows their cock rights.
Not really, I’m just cock sure.
Well better not get cocky about it, okay?
I dread the day when every thread on Lemmy defaults to a series of puns.
It does feel inevitable though, like some sort of internet entropy - eventually everything morphs into wordplay.
Cockserisation 👌👌👌
Jokes aside, I feel like this is also just a human thing or guy thing, a bunch of my guy friends or family members and I would do the same thing IRL
Why did you censor cock?
Because people have a slight sliver of hope that Biden might listen to them.