• Localhorst86@feddit.org
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    3 months ago

    In return, Women get to smell like coconuts and vanilla, while we men are relegated to scents like “burnt charcoal and 7 year old engine oil”

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      3 months ago

      There’s no laws preventing you from using what you perceive as women’s hair care products.

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        I mean that is great and obvious and all but it is completely the case that they are women’s products. They are on all the boxes, ads and testimonials. In the women’s aisle.

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          3 months ago

          You have two separate aisles for men’s and women’s shampoo? Do you live in Saudi Arabia? In the rest of the world they’re right next to each other.

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            What a weird generalization to make. Maybe you’re referring to grocery stores, that have a small selection of beauty/health products.

            My local Target here in the US (CA) was recently renovated to expand the body care section of the store, and now has two large distinct sections that obviously cater to specific genders:

            The men’s section (deodorant, hair care, face wash, shaving supplies, etc.) is set apart by “wood” flooring, dark wooden display tables, and a kind of minimalist atmosphere. Several aisles away, the women’s section (hair care, makeup, face wash, nail care, etc.) is bright and colorful and chock-full of product signage.

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              Lol I just checked target. You’re right. I guess I never get the “men’s shampoo”, mainly because it’s low quality with a crappy “wood” fragrance. Of course women’s deodorant is a rip-off too. Better to just look up the brand you like.

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            In Germany (dm), they have a separate isle for men‘s products, and „normal“ (less gendered) products everywhere else. Kinda weird.

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              DM is notoriously weird in how they place products to begin with :D

              Good prices though!

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            Yeah we have an aisle with typically male hygiene and beauty products and another with typically female products.

            Very sorry that your weird world view doesnt correspond to reality.

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        Yes, but I think the (true) point was that male-marketed products are always either:

        • Arctic freshness 0°K we’ll make you feel like you’re naked on an iceberg in the middle of the North Pole

        Or:

        • Now you smell like your grandfather! Or a piece of wood

        Why is it so and what does it tell of our society and weird expectations? A great deal of men do NOT appreciate this approach, and sure turn to the products marketed for women.

        We should either break that insanely entrenched stereotype about “masculine” scents, or better just ditch product gendering altogether.

        Yay for men smelling like vanilla and strawberry yoghurt!

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          Reject marketing. Reject gender roles. Reject artificial constructs that only serve to oppress and control you.

          Easier said than done, but seriously fuck marketing.

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          Old Spice has some “island” scents that smell like fruits and flowers for men. I am currently working my way through a bottle of “Fiji” smells like papaya and vanilla.

          I am at a loss to think of a more man oriented brand of hygiene products than Old Spice. Maybe Axe, but do we really consider teenage boys men?

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            My teens (one girl one trans boy) are crazy about that Old Spice Fiji scent, and the laundry scent Suavitel Fresca Aroma Del Sol. I think the Fiji does smell a lot like the clean clothes.

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            Thanks, will check out! Most of Old Spice falls under “smell like your grandpa” in my opinion :D

            Axe - true, though this is an abomination and I would definitely build a restriction zone around people who use it

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            Axe makes me break out something awful. Only been two periods of time I wore it, both because the lady I was with commented on it smelling nice when we were in a store, and then only wearing it on nights I was going out with her and hoping I’d recover before next time.

            I have little or no allergies regarding anything else, but deodorants for some reason are prone to setting me off (my suspicion is that it’s particular fragrances used in some of them). Currently Dove Men + Care is safe for me, so I use that.

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          Shea Moisture products score very high in the curly girl ratings scale and you can pick them up at walgreens for not much more than old spice hair products.

          it is more expensive but only like 25% more and the quality difference is huge.

          I switched and my hair is sooooooo soft now.

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          Well, baldness also requires care. A shampoo will be fine for your head-skin. Also, moisturise. Especially important for people who tend to have dry skin like me. There aren’t many good moisturisers for men around though. (At least none which I found good so far.) So, moisturisers marketed towards women it is.

          And if it smells like peach, roses and aloe vera paired with coconuts, even better. If your girlfriend/wife likes to smell herself that way, you can bet she would also like to smell your floral skin-desert.

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          My husband is bald but like to use my nice smelling shampoo on his beard every now and again. Pamper yourself.

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          “products for men” are made up nonsense from companies who are trying to profit off of people’s insecurities.

          We have been deeply conditioned as American consumers, but I’m sick of it! Fuck marketing. Fuck gender roles.

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        what you perceive as

        Sometimes it says straight on the box “women’s shampoo” lol

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          What does that mean, exactly though? Will it make a man sick if he uses it? Or is it just a way for a company to appeal to a certain customer who believes men and women are too different to enjoy similar things?

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            Marketing, I suppose. Or just old custom from a time when gender roles were more strict. Maybe both

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            If the man gets his hair really dirty, like farm dirty with diesel and moly grease and itchy chaff bits, then it means it probably doesn’t have what it takes to do the job.

            My wife bought endless shampoos, I tried them for sport and none ever impressed me. Our hard water laughs at fancy shampoos and soaps.

            I always told her to forget it and use my big jug of Pert. A classic that says something on the back like “Pert wasn’t designed to waste your time and money. Pert was designed to get your hair clean” but she was sure there was something wrong with it because it was only 5 bucks.

            Finally one day she gave it a try and has used Pert ever since. It made her hair smooth and soft, it even washes moly grease out and it smells “fine”, men’s shampoo is the winner IMO

            And now my shower is so tidy with only one jug of shampoo

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              But what about that makes it “men’s” shampoo, chemically? Do women never need to wash grease out of their hair?

              I understand you’re point. I’m just reiterating that the formula is needlessly gendered. “Shampoo for hard water and heavy duty cleaning” just doesn’t sell in our version of socialized society I guess.

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                Actually come to think of it, I don’t think Pert is actually gendered. But everyone knows it’s a “man’s shampoo”, because it isn’t actively marketed as a “women’s shampoo”… Yeah, pretty stupid, isn’t it.

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      What’s funny is that I’m now at the point of using bar soap as my “shampoo”, but the store currently only has heavily scented bar soap, so I do actually smell like 🍑 and 🍊.

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        That doesn’t work here. Natural soap, saponified fats, causes soap scum in hard water. If it puts a mineral coating on your tub, it will do the same to your hair.

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    Same as the shower gel, where there are lots of “flavours” and then some just labelled “MEN” with no indication of what they smell of.[1]

    [1] Engine oil and Swarfega

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    Women sometimes have big vats of products too. I learned years ago that if my SO had a large bottle of lotion it cost $5.99, but the 3 oz. bottle was $59.99.

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    “Essence of Whispered Dreams.”
    That actually sounds crazy cool, I would definitely buy that for my wife if it was available. Also the color is absolutely perfect.

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      I’m convinced my wife’s shampoo could be considered a full meal of you drink it.

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        Maybe a full serving of fruits and veggies, but there’s no protein in there, at least not what we mean when we talk about protein in nutrition. Probably not many carbs either. I would also suspect that the rest of the product is undigestable, if not straight up toxic

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      I believe in taking care of myself and a balanced diet and rigorous exercise routine. In the morning if my face is a little puffy I’ll put on an ice pack while doing stomach crunches. I can do 1000 now. After I remove the ice pack I use a deep pore cleanser lotion. In the shower I use a water activated gel cleanser, then a honey almond body scrub, and on the face an exfoliating gel scrub. Then I apply an herb-mint facial mask which I leave on for 10 minutes while I prepare the rest of my routine. I always use an after shave lotion with little or no alcohol, because alcohol dries your face out and makes you look older. Then moisturizer, then an anti-aging eye balm followed by a final moisturizing protective lotion.

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    Then the fuckers start putting more perfumes in it.

    Goddamn, that pisses me off. Had to find another AIO shampoo that didn’t make my eyes burn when I used it. Used Pert for 20+ years until some marketing asshat forgot who the demographic was.

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    At my family’s house, the men’s shampoo is of the same brand and packaging as some of the women’s shampoo, just with less floral names like “ocean” and “gingham legend,” whatever that’s supposed to mean.