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The Spanish government has a plan to prevent kids from watching porn online: Meet the porn passport.
Officially (and drily) called the Digital Wallet Beta (Cartera Digital Beta), the app Madrid unveiled on Monday would allow internet platforms to check whether a prospective smut-watcher is over 18. Porn-viewers will be asked to use the app to verify their age. Once verified, they’ll receive 30 generated “porn credits” with a one-month validity granting them access to adult content. Enthusiasts will be able to request extra credits.
You have to request more porn credits from the government if you need more? Don’t want the government to be tracking this data of you. This is a privacy issue
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Surely this will work.
Porn passport = Wanking license
Oi mate! Wankin loicense! Give it here. Noi!
Also known as “pajaporte” in Spanish (paja = wank)
Esa no me la esperaba XDDD
This is a privacy issue but it’s a much much much less of a privacy issue than what the EU wants to do with that mandatory internet ID thing. This Spanish concept shows that you don’t need complete mass surveillance like other governments try to convince everyone in.
Spain is officially hoping that their system will serve as a model for the rest of Europe, and then the rest of the world, so that everyone can work together to enforce the rules. Otherwise their citizens might just evade it by, for example, going to web sites that are not in Spain.
That is why they give it such a grand name as “digital wallet.” It’s meant to become the basis for that European digital id you refer to, and used for much more than is happening with this initial trial balloon.
so that everyone can work together to enforce the rules.
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This government intrusion is brought to you by Surfshark.
This ensures traceability through the public key as content providers will consistently receive the same public key when the credential is presented
What a ridiculous system. For some reason I expected that their efforts to offer an illusion of privacy would be better than the obfuscatory bullshit they’ve leaned on here in order to enable “traceability.”
I hope it goes down so badly in Spain that the rest of Europe is once and for all convinced that such schemes to restrict and monitor the web browsing habits of every citizen are ineffective for their stated purpose, needlessly invasive of privacy and freedom, destructive of democracy, and can serve only as a prelude to totalitarianism.
Having read the actual description of the protocol, such as it is, I should add in the interest of fairness that those "30 generated porn credits” do get you 30 new key pairs each month. They are issued directly by the central authority which knows exactly who they’re issuing them to, and the public key is presented directly to web sites you visit. But they promise not to track how you use them.
That it’s so absurd and poorly designed is reassuring in a way. It’s difficult to imagine anyone using this.
How long before it gets “breached”
Not long at all.
Luckily I already wear t-shirts that advertise the weird kinks that I’m into. Otherwise this would make me really uncomfortable.
This is the best summary I could come up with:
Officially (and drily) called the Digital Wallet Beta (Cartera Digital Beta), the app Madrid unveiled on Monday would allow internet platforms to check whether a prospective smut-watcher is over 18.
Once verified, they’ll receive 30 generated “porn credits” with a one-month validity granting them access to adult content.
While the tool has been criticized for its complexity, the government says the credit-based model is more privacy-friendly, ensuring that users’ online activities are not easily traceable.
It will be voluntary, as online platforms can rely on other age-verification methods to screen out inappropriate viewers.
It heralds an EU law going into force in October 2027, which will require websites to stop minors from accessing porn.Eventually, Madrid’s porn passport is likely to be replaced by the EU’s very own digital identity system (eIDAS2) — a so-called wallet app allowing people to access a smorgasbord of public and private services across the whole bloc.
“We are acting in advance and we are asking platforms to do so too, as what is at stake requires it,” José Luis Escrivá, Spain’s digital secretary, told Spanish newspaper El País.
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Politicians keep trying to helicopter parent the entire populations of countries.
Making sure your kids don’t go places online before they should, and have conversations with them about it once they reach an age where it happening is inevitable, is something every, single, parent, should do.
Not the fucking state.
And this has to be one the weirdest implementations of porn surveillance I’ve ever seen.
Exactly! Government granted ‘porn credits’ sounds absolutly insane as a serious idea…
Porn “Enthusiasts will be able to request extra credits” is one wild sentence.
A porn “enthusiast”, requesting the government for porn credits, to watch porn? What?
I hate when you’re about to bust and run out of credits. Like, just take the ruined O or power on into the “insert permission slip reference” screen?
drink verification cansqueeze verification dong
tfw no porn credits
In my experience most parents are to lazy to keep up with setting appropriate restrictions for kids and like some parents, they expect someone else to raise and take care of their children.
So what? I’ve had the exact same experience.
It’s not a reason for the state to overstep into ALL our lives. In fact, the state stepping in is giving such parents yet more excuses to put even less effort into shaping the adults that their children will become.
That’s their problem. I’ll handle my kids, fuck the government and fuck those useless parents as well. They should not have had kids.
…fuck those useless parents as well. They should not have had kids.
But that’s how the problem started in the first place!
Folks, this is not about the porn.
Instead of educating kids, it’s much easier to… not, and invade their privacy instead.
Keep people safe … by encasing them in packing foam and feeding them through IV tubes!
Everyone knows freedom is anti safety. And safety’s number 1!
…invade everyone’s privacy instead.
it’s for the children!
They said as they erode more freedom/privacy for the general population.
I see Spain wants ALL of my money. Sucks for them I don’t live there and even if I did, I’m better at Internet than their legislators.
People live in Spain?
Also I’m just imagining the look on on the store clerks face when that one person comes in to buy porn credits for the 5th time that day.
I’m not sure why this is the focus rather than legislating that router/access point manufacturers create robust and simple to use parental controls and then running public service campaigns that educate parents on how to use them.
Not that I really care that much since I don’t watch porn. I just don’t think putting adult content behind a verification system that applies to everyone makes sense when the idea is to prevent kids, who generally have at least one person who controls the networking equipment and should be monitoring their devices/activity, from seeing it.
The fact that they don’t go for any of the many ways to manage access to porn that are more effective and less invasive of privacy suggests that the point is, as always, surveillance and not protecting children from porn.
Sucks to live in Spain, I guess. The rest of us get spied on just fine without it being nearly as annoying. /s
The guy who’s likely to become Canada’s next PM wants to do this too.
Also it is not like the porn websites are hard to block really. They make it pretty easy.
Wow good job Spain.
I guess this works because email doesn’t exist.
I guess this works because file sharing applications and websites don’t exist.
I guess this works because VPN’s free and paid don’t exist.
I guess this works because Tor, i2p, Freenet, and Yggdrasil don’t exist.
I guess this works because torrenting doesn’t exist.
I guess this works because black markets don’t exist.
I guess this works because chat applications don’t exist.
To be a fly on the wall of these government meetings where they talk about this shit would surely be the funniest fucking thing in the world.
I want to be at the meeting a year from now where they realize only two people have ever signed up ‘Yay we fixed porn!’
Buy who am I kidding they brought VPN shares before this was introduced
and probably have some of the most depraved porn habits imaginable
Bought VPN shares and water shipping company shares because they know wasting money on this shit instead of on public infrastructure to provide more reliable clean water is only good for commercial interests.
You are right, it’s really stupid.
But it’s also stupid not to consider, that it’s not the real reason they made this in the first place.
They want to track you, and porn is the first excuse. If this is a success you might need this passport for alot of other things.
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What gets me about this is that, while it would still be bad, they could have mostly avoided the privacy nightmare here with some kind of Zero Knowledge Proof scheme, but the tracking is obviously part of the point.
You think govt officials can ingest, articulate, or even fathom what ZKrollups are?
We have the wrong people in govt unfortunately. Its mostly lawyers.
But yea, some sort of ZK schema would be interesting. Still dislike the porn credits tho.
