“And so I come full circle on this response and just want to encourage you with some substance that we are in the process of the second American Revolution, which will remain bloodless if the left allows it to be,” he said.

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    I know it’s meant to be a threat, but he really makes it sound like he’s at our mercy. It will only be bloodless if WE allow it.

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      It reads as “give up everything and nobody needs to get hurt”. It’s basically a taunt on their holding freedom under duress.

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      The important part is to go after him and other people in leadership. They was us to fight the local maga crowd, not them. Fighting the local maga crowd gets us nowhere.

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      Those people scattered hard when of these died on January 6th. None of them really know how bad it gets in countries that actually go through revolutions. Not that we shouldn’t be prepared to protect ourselves, but they have no wherewithal to follow though to the end.

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        It’s because they’re the go along to get along cowards who end up ignoring the flesh scented ash falling from the concentration camp constructed 15 miles outside of their hometown because admitting they were wrong would mean they accept responsibility for their complicity.

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        Very few do, no matter the “side”, and those with the skills & training to do so all too often eat their own guns after the dust settles. In war, the only victors are the ones pushing pawns. Every single other creature is a victim to it, in one way or another.

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            People never see they’re in the boiling pot. Or the crab bucket. Or the slaughter line. Or the prison-filling shame machine. Or the no-one-else-is-as-special-as-you ritual paint before the holiday sacrifice. Etc.

            I still hold that the “Heroes Work Here” signs all over the Bible belt would be atop guillotines instead if there were any sense salvaging this “nation”. 🙇🏽‍♂️

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        Revolutions are easy. You attend some rallies, you put some flags on your truck and you repost some memes on Facebook. If things get really dire, you change your profile picture for like a day or so.

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      Typical toxic abusive gaslighting BS, while enabling the violent crazies on his side to boot.

      It is bonkers to me how these people would be tough to accept as the villain in a children’s movie, yet here they are in the real world with millions of grown-ass people supporting them.

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    Ironic that they’re the ones who blessed us with all the stand your ground laws and lax gun control. Bump stocks it is

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    Do you all remember how quickly they backed down as soon as ashley babbit was shot? (yes I known I spelled it wrong, I don’t care to honor that piece of trash). A whole crowd of these fuckers. and presumably the most rabid of them, their infantry if you will. These are the cultists who spent money, time, and energy to be there. So they are also the ones with means. Also, presumably a bunch of them were carrying concealed weapons. Then one person gets shot and the entire thing crumbles. Cowards. Through and through cowards. And they think they can win a war?

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      I like the way I once saw it summarized for a non-American person asking about J6:

      Supporters of the fascist ex-President form angry mob threatening to kill politicians; they end up killing four police officers and one of themselves then run away.

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        I’m not defending those traitors, but they didn’t kill 4 police. This is from the wiki on the event.

        “Within 36 hours, five people died: one was shot by Capitol Police, another died of a drug overdose, and three died of natural causes, including a police officer. Many people were injured, including 174 police officers. Four officers who responded to the attack died by suicide within seven months.”

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      I mean, when somebody says a threat of such kind in a situation which doesn’t yet warrant it, it’s clear they are cowards.

      Make no mistake - that bloodshed they want to be done by police, national guard and such. Not their own supporters. Cause no person who says such things first wants to be shot back at.

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      The reaction of everyone when the shot is fired was absolutely telling. The coward that was right next to her turns and ran. Didn’t even help her or charge an attack with the absolutely massive numbers they had. They were there, at the heart of it all and they turned around and ran because the violence became real and was directed at them.

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      It’s simple: Trump wins, they win (unless he fucks it up, which he probably will).

      Trump loses, they lose no matter how violent they get.

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        Trump loses, they lose

        They’ve been on this shit since the Confederate Era. Trump is just the latest in a long line of fascist bannermen.

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          Well, if you want the history of the Heritage Foundation, look back to the 70’s. Supreme Court Justice Lewis F. Powell penned a memo to the US Chamber of Commerce titled “Attack on the American Free Enterprise System” in 1970, and in this memo, he detailed his concern that America’s best and brightest students were becoming anti-business because of our involvement in Vietnam. Powell’s agenda included getting wealthy conservatives to set up professorships, setting up institutes on and off campus where intellectuals would write books from a conservative business perspective, and setting up think tanks. Three years later, the Heritage Foundation was founded.

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        Trump refused to call in the same National Guard that has beaten up the BLM protesters the summer before.

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        I remember when “Race war now?” was just an edgy 4chan meme… Better days, used to on the internet when someone was being racist it was a comedy routine mocking the absurdity of racism, nowadays… people actually mean that shit.

        Sadly I remember the “Bugaloo” movement, because everything has to be a joke now, even repeating the Civil War…

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    And so I come full circle on this response and just want to encourage you with some substance that we are in the process of the first American Devolution, which will remain bloodless if the left allows it to be," he said.

    Fixed that for him

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    When someone tells you you that they’re planning Night of the Long Knives, you should believe them.

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      Correction - you should believe them that such will happen when nobody else but them has knives and they are certain they won’t get a scratch while it’s happening. Until then they’ll be very afraid.

      The dangerous part is that the fact that they are cowards may over time become more notable than the fact that they really want this.

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    Project 2025 already involved implicit violence even if people didn’t challenge it. So thanks for taking the mask even further off, I guess?

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    Man are you guys fucked! All that is standing between you and a death cult is a senile old man with one foot in the grave. Yeesh

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      That’s no problem in a constitutional republic. If Biden wins and is senile, we get Jill Biden as pres. If he wins and dies, we get Harris.

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        that doesn’t mean much. If Biden dies, Trump will likely win.

        If Trump died that wouldn’t really change what the Republican party is trying to do.

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        It’s really not, though. Trump is backed by people even more bloodthirsty and totalitarian than he is.

        Biden is backed by a bunch of enlightened-centrist appeasers whose biggest policy goal is disarming themselves.

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    The best part of that line is that everyone left of fascism reads it as a direct threat - bow to our will or there will be blood, while the right can claim it’s just them worrying about the left turning violent.

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      They just want to murder their way to a just and harmonious society. How can we achieve a just and harmonious society without consequence free political violence?

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        The modern conservative agenda reads almost exactly like Timothy McVeigh’s manifesto for blowing up the OKC federal building. Not even joking, read it. You would think it’s a modern Republican speech.

        These people want to enslave/kill everyone in the cities, all minorities, all LGBT+, and people who voted blue. They aren’t even hiding it. They want that massive transfer of wealth which is behind their agenda.

        Remember, this is what all conservatives want. There are no exceptions. They all support the outright violence. It is what their party stands for.