• FiniteBanjo@lemmy.today
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      2 个月前

      Publicly owned means of production, meaning the planning, creation, and distribution of goods as being completely controlled by the entire population. So, by definition, dictatorship China, NK, or Russia (both current and USSR) do not qualify.

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        2 个月前

        Alright, you finally got something correctly (the definition of communism), I’ll give you that.

        What your ignoring is: capitalist sabotage and that we don’t live in a perfect world. Ask yourself where China and the DPRK were before Socialism and what they managed to accomplish. My point is, contradictions are inherent in every single system and you cannot have communism overnight.

        They’re socialist in the sense that they’re striving towards socialism… what do you think that happens when you have to deal with an overwhelmingly capitalist (and hostile) world? You have to give some concessions.

        Extremely incomplete answer, but maybe read “dialectical and historical mateiralism” some day.

        Edit: forgot to clarify, modern Russia is IN NO WAY socialist. It’s a reactionary shithole and our support for it is only insofar as they oppose Western Imperialism.