Only that there are also a lot of commies who would exterminate a whole lot of centrists.
“We are gonna make mankind happy even if we have to exterminate half of it!”
Unfathomably based. If they said it like this half of the far right would join.
Is happiness the reason why almost everyone living in communist countries in 1900s wanted to change the system or gtfo?
Wait aren’t the far lefts not those who want to “kill the rich”?
Hivemind moment
Come on people, this is a strawman fallacy at its finest. Let’s at least try to be objective so we can have interesting conversations, and not turn this into an eco chamber for one of the sides.
You really know how to alienate the centrist vote, don’t you? Very clever. Very powerful. Surely you are doing The Good Work.
Bolsheviks literally exterminated entire social groups because they believed they were impure. Calling people “kulaks” and such.
They also deported (as in half dying in the way) to Siberia whole peoples, like Chechens and Ingushs.
Also some peoples by ethnicity alone were deemed suspicious in certain parts of USSR and forcefully moved from there. That’s how there are very few Greeks in Crimea.
And you have those hammer and sickle on the “far left” pic.
Because communism worked out so well every other time.
there is a cure for political illiteracy
You haven’t found it yet.
Neither have you it seems
I can’t think of any successful communist countries. They’ve all quickly devolved into totalitarian regimes, or else they’ve had to adopt a capitalist economy because a communist economy just didn’t work.
This why the right conflates socialism with communism, because they don’t want to acknowledge that northern Europe is absolutely crushing it in both wealth and services.
Northern Europe also depends heavily on Unequal Exchange, and has seen sliding safety nets. They are happiest because they are generally the wealthiest, and that wealth must be seen in the international context, as they do not practice Autarky.
I wish we made decisions based on happiness levels rather than GDP.
These countries are obviously doing something right and the rest of the world should take notes from them: https://worldhappiness.report/news/happiest-countries-prove-resilient-despite-overlapping-crises/
These countries are obviously doing something right and the rest of the world should take notes from them
What they’re doing right is a mixture of rather progressive social policy (in the process of being abandoned in favour of the extreme right), and exploitation of poorer countries through unequal exchange. It’s high-school level knowledge of colonialism: import raw materials and agricultural produce from poor countries at low prices, export high-added-value goods and services at a high cost. If every country were to adopt that model, it wouldn’t work because there’d be nobody to exploit. I suggest you read into the concept of unequal exchange
No country in Europe is even close to the original definition of socialism. Having public health care is not socialism.
Orrr the US overthrows their government and replaces them with a fascist regime or monarchy whenever there’s even a hint of socialism. Latin America, Asia, post-ww2 Europe… they have a tendency to do that a lot.
The only ones we know of are all authoritarian regimes because they’re the only ones which actually have enough resistanace from outside interference to not fall victim to the USA’s shenanigans. Democracies are extremely vulnerable to outside influence / bad actors, and when you have the most powerful country in the world working to destroy your democratic government, without the centralization to resist that it’s no use fighting back. We created this problem.
there is no such thing as a communist country: communism is stateless
They’ve all quickly devolved into totalitarian regimes
Tell me you haven’t studied the political structures of Cuba and the USSR since the 60s without telling me you haven’t.
While both countries have a high level of concentration of power on bureaucratic elites when it comes to big policy, there were/are a ton of democratic mechanisms that simply don’t exist in the west. Extremely high rates of unionization with unions having big decision-making power in the workplaces and outside them, party-membership being encouraged with extremely high rates of it compared to western democracies, neighborhood councils having actual decision-making power both through legal mechanisms and through funding to enact desired local policy… If you want to learn of a particularly interesting instance, you can read the book “how the worker’s parliaments saved the Cuban revolution” by Pedro Ross, in which it’s detailed how massive democratic participation in the early 90s after the dismantling of the USSR ensured the survival of the country in an astronomical economic crisis.
You also say this as if western countries were democratic at all, as if putting a ballot once every 4-5 years ensured popular decision-making. Study after study show that public support for policy in the west is a terrible predictor of whether that policy is adopted or not, and vice-versa, i.e., public opinion and policy are uncorrelated. The fact that you can’t easily point to a particular authority responsible for this, doesn’t make the system any more democratic, it just makes it look less authoritarian. Who in France supported the rise of the retirement age? Who in Europe supported austerity policy after the 2008 crisis? What percentage of US citizens don’t support socialized healthcare?
I can’t tell if you are talking about the right or the left.
Neither can the communists.
Both sides have fine people, except for those God damn commies who want to open the border and give all of the people houses, food, education, and healthcare.
And also send to the gulag all those who oppose their inept program. You can make anything look nice if you omit all the negative stuff.
Just stopping by to say I admire your commitment to the bit.
Downvotes be damned
He even had a horseshoe tattooed on his neck.
With the exception of those goddamn commies who want to open the border and provide housing, food, healthcare, and education to everyone, both sides are home to wonderful people. candy clicker
It’s enough. Blocking community. Thanks bye.
Begone then
While I agree that “far-left” is a lot more sane sane option than far-right, it doesn’t change the fact that sometimes the behavior of individuals who identify as such is outrageous. I especially see that in open-source community with various hate groups targeted to anybody identifying right of center and defending their actions, just because they fight for the good of all, therefore being nothing more than buch of hateful hypocrites.
Centrists are the real communists. They just want everyone to come together and hug it out.
Don’t you ever fucking joke around in my meme community, you monster
No, wait, he’s got a point…
As a centrist I can say with certainty that both sides as being misrepresented here.
Wrong!
Source: We’re on Lenny
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It’s more often the far left I see rejecting the centrist candidates and thereby ironically helping the right wing because they refuse to comprehend the difference between right wing “exterminate everyone” and centrist “how about maybe don’t do that though”.
