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    Meanwhile, the “slippery slope” logical fallacy falls over, down a hill, and dies.

    Then starts spinning, creating a perfectly cylindrical hole, and catches fire due to friction, and self cremating.

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    Pretty soon they’ll be trying to put me in prison for mass-murder every time I jerk off.

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    Pushing to have zygotes and blastocysts as people is fucking worse. That’s as nonsensical as calling sperm people. There’s not even a neural tube for christ sakes. My toenail has as much personhood. This shit isn’t even biblical.

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      Depends on the skin color and the class of the fetus.

      A fetus that comes a from white, upper class. The answer would be as minor.

      A black, poor fetus. Definitely being tried as an adult.

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        This is the plot of Baby Driver, right?

        Edit: I’m stupid, I was thinking of Fetus Driver

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    It makes me wonder, why are the religious obsess with abortion when the US allows divorce, even though the Bible forbids it? Why not campaign on striking down divorce as well?

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      because republican donors saw it as a way to create political division after Roe, so they required the churches they donate to to adopt the catholic theology of fetal personhood. This had the double effect of letting evangelicals feel like the state was oppressing their freshly adopted religious belief and persecuting them.

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      My brother honestly wants to get rid of divorce so that people will “take the commitment more seriously”.

      He said this after his fiance left for another guy. Hilarious at first glance, mortifying when you realize what he actually wanted to happen based on what he said.

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      it’s always about control, forcing women to have kids to carry on religion. once they’re an adult, divorce doesn’t matter because they don’t care, you’re an adult. once the baby is born, they couldn’t care less. it’s also about punishment. a man can’t be a whore, but if a woman gets pregnant, especially out of wedlock, she’s a whore and deserves it.

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      The Bible is actually pro-choice. Kinda. It only mentions abortion once. That’s Numbers 5: 11-31. It tells you how to perform an abortion.

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        That is… a stupefying description of what is written. I had to read the torah in primary school. Half a day, every school day, one book per year, (two for Leviticus), in Hebrew. I was confounded. I thought maybe Rabbi had us skip that part.

        The part you are referring to is referred to as “Sota” which describes a magical ceremony where in a man would bring his allegedly unfaithful wife before a Beis Din, and she could drink a magic potion, snickeringly referred to as “sota water,” to prove her innocence. The logic goes that if the woman was unfaithful, “these afflictive waters shall enter your innards, causing your belly to swell and your thigh to rupture” . This could be taken mean an abortion, but in my grade school class, we were very giggly, because we thought it meant she would explode.

        Further, the potion is described being water, dust from the tabernacle floor, and an invocation written down and dissolved in the water (Number 5: 17, and 23), and is explicitly stated it won’t hurt an innocent woman. (28). This passage does evoke abortion. But it describes a magical ritual that it claims will only cause abortion in unfaithful women, and the potion provided wont cause anyone to abort (although it is gross). Claiming in instructs an abortion is a massive stretch.

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          Doesn’t that mean that the bible condones abortion in the case of infidelity? In which case, shouldn’t Republicans want that to be an exception?

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            It could be interpreted that way… I think? The language it uses refers to seeds.

            וְנִזְרֳעָ֥ה זָֽרַע

            The situation (infidelity, the graphic imagery of swelling bellies and rupturing thighs) naturally implies abortion, but the ‘Nezre’ah Zerah’ implies the potion will cause barreness.

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              Fair enough. Of course, this is also from the same half of the Bible Christians conveniently ignore when they want bacon for breakfast, so I guess it’s on the moot side of things.

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          I originally read that as "minimum wage laws"and was confused as to why they were fighting to raise wages, then I reread it and realized, “oh, they just want to fuck kids. That tracks.”

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    So I can drive in the HOV lane, I can’t be mass arrested, and attempted murder against me is considered attempted genocide?

    My tax return is going to be enormous due to how many dependants I have.

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          But what if the fetus told the pregnant woman it would kill her and itself if she doesn’t kill her husband. Afraid of dying and losing her fetus she kills her husband.

          Let’s say the fetus gets a death sentence because obviously this person initiated everything. Would they wait for it to be born before killing it? Or would they kill it before birth what would be basically an abortion. But abortions are outlawed…

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          Pregnant women kills an abusive husband and Texas tries the mother and fetus for murder…

          It’s less funny when you think about how they probably wouldn’t blink

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    Officer: Are you pregnant ma’am?

    Ma’am: No there’s a homeless person who is living rent free inside my womb against my will.

    Officer: Stand back maam!

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      LMFAO, that is so dark, and so unfortunately believable given today’s political landscape in America.

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      But people under a certain age are required a child seat, no? So unless those rules are changed, it would be hard for any pregnant woman to legally sit in a moving car.

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        Ah, good point. But doesn’t that mean that the pregnant woman can’t ride in the car at all, since the young “person” inside them doesn’t have a way to be put in a seat?

        It looks like Florida and West Virginia have no seat laws, so pregnant woman in the carpool lane are good to go there!

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    Roe v. Wade came into existence as Biden’s career was taking off fifty years ago

    it has now been two years since Roe v. Wade fell and if it took fifty years to for it to fall then we may have a long time to wait for our rights to be restored

    this will just be some campaign promise for either side to exploit and asks donations on whether to keep things restricted or to restore rights eventually

    US citizens need to wake up and realize both side are just empty promises and words we need actual leadership in the Senate, the Congress, The Presidency, and the rest of the government

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        Lol, why do you people always force everything into a false dichotomy? If you have a problem with the statement, at least confront the actual argument being put forward.

        Nothing they said is false, the Democrats over the last couple decades have slid further and further to the right, mostly because they care more about economic policy and decorum than protecting people’s rights.

        Are they better than the Republicans, of course. But that doesn’t mean we can’t be critical when assessing if they’ve met our expectations. Saying both parties need better leadership is just stating the obvious, it doesn’t mean this person’s urging people to not vote, or to vote for the worse party.

        This country is in for some rough years if our only qualifications for leadership positions is just being better than Republicans, that bar is too low.

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          What dichotomy? I asked who they are canvassing for. You do know people have to canvass for a candidate in order for them to get elected, right? If you want a better candidate than what is offered, they aren’t going to magic themselves into office. Campaigns take work.

          I take it neither of you are canvassing for anyone and are just hoping you’ll get what you want by wishing for it.

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            So the only people who are able to be critical of their elected officials are people who have the leisure time and the resources to work for political parties for free?

            take it neither of you are canvassing for anyone and are just hoping you’ll get what you want by wishing for it.

            First of all, this is a strawman argument. It has nothing to do with the original claim, which you didn’t ever address. Secondly, I have served as a district delegate for the DNC in my state, and you have an optimistic view of how much actual choice is actually provided to voters.

            Candidates don’t just say I want to be a state senator, sign me up. They go through a vetting process of the state’s political party, and each DNC chapter has its own means to determine which candidates they throw their weight behind. Depending on where you are, unless you have seniority in the local chapter you don’t really have a choice on who you canvas for.

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                  He asked the person he originally responded too, not me. I’m just asking how it’s a relevant question… which he is going through great lengths to avoid answering.

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                So your rebuttal was a complete non-sequitur? Seems you’re not being very honest here.

                Maybe a better approach would be to actually address the argument instead of relying on logical fallacies to silence peoples concerns.

                So who are you canvassing for?

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                  It wasn’t a rebuttal, it was a question. One you have not answered. And yet you expect me to answer yours.

                  The problem here is you’re trying to argue with someone who asked a question.

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            No, they don’t understand. They’d rather just sit in their basements and complain on the Internet rather than get out into the light and actually try to effect the change they wish to see.

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              Lol, I’ve been a district delegate for the DNC in one of the most conservative states in America… What have you done?

              This is why I asked how canvassing was related to the original claim, as we are now focusing on the strawman argument instead of actually addressing the criticism in question.

              Considering he is one of the most active users in this online community, I’m guessing your description of standby basement dweller is more accurate for flyingsquid than anyone else here. Doing memes and drowning out criticism online with flawed rhetoric is not the same as political organizing.

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