• rah@feddit.uk
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    no system does

    Exactly. Socialism brings no solution to the table. To think, all this time Marx was just faffing about the difference between being stabbed with a six inch knife and a twelve inch knife. What a palaver.

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      Marx’s point wasn’t the complete elimination of corruption, but the elimination of the exploitation of the working class by the owning class. This has historically happened in several countries and can (and will) happen again.

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        the elimination of the exploitation of the working class by the owning class

        But not the elimination of exploitation. In which case: meh.

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          But not the elimination of exploitation

          There’s no surplus labour extraction, hence no exploitation

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            LOL you’re deluded. What does it mean for there to be corruption without exploitation? Corruption is a form of exploitation.

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              Corruption isn’t systematic, it’s an isolated and illegal activity, unlike extraction of surplus value in capitalism which is legal and encouraged and systematic. The extent of corruption is orders of magnitude below capitalist exploitation.

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                Corruption isn’t systematic, it’s an isolated and illegal activity

                LOL

                The extent of corruption is orders of magnitude below capitalist exploitation.

                I see.

                Well, good luck.

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                  Dude, you’re deluded if you think capitalist exploitation is even close to corruption in communism. There was no Bezos and no Elon in the USSR. There were no yatchs and hookers. There were no homeless workers, or workers without access to healthcare. The inequality was extremely low compared to Capitalism, even comparing workers with your dreaded “bureaucracy”. The fact that you’d even compare the both just shows how stupidly uneducated you are in this.

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                    stupidly

                    O_o

                    uneducated

                    I’m not going to waste my time learning about a field that brings no solution to the table.

                    in the USSR … The inequality was extremely low compared to Capitalism

                    Six inch knife vs twelve inch knife yawn