Real question. If the vice presidential duty is to ceremoniously sign off on delegate votes, how will that work if Kamala is the VP, but also on the ticket? I could see these MAGA nuts using that to drum up support for a stolen election, they tried it when Pence was VP, and he wasn’t an electee.
she still certifies the count. i never heard of the site, but it’s what i found https://www.verifythis.com/article/news/verify/elections-verify/yes-vp-kamala-harris-can-certify-the-election-results-even-if-shes-a-presidential-candidate/536-6eb8fc15-c36f-4ca9-87c3-376a2e16442a
I don’t know the answer, but there is precident for this. Wikipedia tells me 4 sitting VPs have been elected, most recently Bush Sr. In 1988.
I’m sure the right-wing will spin this as a stolen election, like you said. It’s not like this is the first time it’s happened, though.
Dan Quayle must be happy to pass that “worst VP ever” torch on to someone else.
i miss the days when the fuckup someone is remembered for was misspelling potato
I would argue they were just better at hiding the same type of shit these modern politicians are thinking and saying. Now it’s just acceptable. Then you had Howard Dean dooming himself for a cowboy scream.
Those were simpler times. Now it’s the Time of Simps.
Slow clap
Well done!
Putting an e on the end of potato basically ended his political career and now Trump supporters shout “covfefe” because they think it’s somehow smart. I think about that a lot.
Or the fact that people largely see the photo that Dukakis took in a tank as the moment HW Bush won the 88 election - compared to Trump’s photo op in a Fire Truck…
Or when Howard Dean “ruined” his political career by whooping at a rally because it “wasn’t presidential.”
Our expectations are so low right now that putting together two cogent sentences could literally mean that you win the election.
The 90s: “How could we ever put someone in charge who’s so stupid he can’t even spell potato?”
George W. Bush: “Watch this drive”
Donald J. Trump: “unintelligible gibberish”
Simpler times. He gave us these nuggets of wisdom:
- “You take the UNCF model that what a waste it is to lose one’s mind or not to have a mind is being very wasteful. How true that is”
- “The Holocaust was an obscene period in our nation’s history. … No, not our nation’s, but in World War II. I mean, we all lived in this century. I didn’t live in this century, but in this century’s history”
- “I have made good judgments in the past. I have made good judgments in the future”
- “I believe we are on an irreversible trend toward more freedom and democracy, but that could change”
- “potatoe” (when trying to “correct” a 12-yr old’s spelling of “potato”)
Worst is subjective. I’d argue that Cheney’s support of blood for oil and Halliburton rebuild scheme was far worse than anything Quayle did.
Yeah, same thought. Cheney was the worst because he was smart, competent, and evil. That beats incompetent.
Agreed. Despite Vance’s inability to please a crowd, he’s more on the “Cheney dangerous” side of the spectrum than “Quayle dumb.”
At least Dan Quayle convinced Pence not to play ball with Trump’s schemes.
Everyone loves a redemption arc. But how sad is it that the ‘potatoe’ guy was the voice of reason who helped save American democracy in it’s darkest hour (so far!). We really are living through Idiocracy!
Let’s be real, JD Vance was picked by the party to be the adult in the room who can actually get Project 2025 passed under Trump since Trump doesn’t care about Project 2025 and just wants what’s best for himself at that moment and to be a petty little bitch
Also worth noting that Vance has no personality. When asked in Eau Claire, WI “why should a voter want to have a beer with you” he responded “uh I uh haha um I actually like beer haha” (he also tried to sidestep a question about Tim Walz by saying “we aren’t talking about Minneapolis policy, were talking about Wisconsin” while literally standing 1 hour’s drive from Minneapolis
And when asked “what makes you smile” instead of any sane answer he answered “insane questions from biased reporters like you!” Then followed it with waffling about how he loves his job so much while forcing the fakest smile you’ve ever seen
Do you have a link for that Eau Claire Interview?
Here is an article with a snippet from the interview referenced. The whole interview is readily available on YouTube if you do a quick search. Hope it helps. https://www.wizmnews.com/2024/08/08/vance-jokes-hes-checking-out-his-future-vp-plane-while-overlapping-with-harris-at-eau-claire-airport/ Cheers!
IMHO they want Vance for one reason: Trump thinks he can control him, but Vance’s actual master, Theil, will have Vance 25th amendment the orange asshat on day one - giving Theil the whitehouse.
The Vice President can’t do that without “a majority of either the principal officers of the executive departments or of such other body as Congress may by law provide” on their side. That can’t happen without either the aid of people that Trump would have to select (and he’s notorious for picking toadies) or Congress passing a bill to create a body to evict him.
eh lol you think Theil only paid off Vance?
roflololol
That would be a good House of Cards episode, not realistic in the slightest.
Also the Ohio thing makes sense when you look at the Senate map. There are exactly two remotely competitive races, Montana and Ohio. Ohio is leaning blue and Montana is leaning red. Picking JD boosts Ohio and Trump is campaigning in Montana right now. Those choices were both made when Biden was still in so seemingly the idea was to secure the Senate and grab an extra seat or two so it’s not razor tight and vulnerable to RINOs.
Fuck that’s such an easy layup of a question too. You just respond, “because I’m buying”. No positions to attack, potentially makes you look human, and maybe costs you a beer.
Ohio rizz
Doom is overstating things, especially with the fucking electoral college in the US and election shenanigans afoot in Georgia. Don’t lose focus!
Won’t anyone comfort j.d. vance through this difficult time? Anyone? Any…thing?
Well, he’s an election denying Maga billionaires’ toady, that lacks any charisma, trashes where he came from and then hitches himself to someone he previously denounced in an effort to gain political power. Oh and he wants to completely ban abortion. He’s an unlikable political opportunist. It’s no wonder that the publics opinion of him will continue to drop.
Ya fuck one couch, and everyone calls you a couch fucker.
The thing about this meme is that it’s stuck so it works. Doesn’t matter if it’s true or not. You can just call him a couch fucker and it renders anything he says irrelevant.
If you meet anyone who wants to talk about voting for the guy you just need to call them a couch fucker too and you’re done.
Yes couch fucker
But confusingly, Trump has continued to send Vance out to campaign events all week, while the Republican presidential nominee has remained largely out of the public eye. Given Vance’s low appeal, it’s unclear how this strategy helps the campaign.
Trump is going to blame Vance for the failure of his campaign, calling it now. He’ll have the usual shit about dems as well, but he’s going to scapegoat vance and throw him under the bus just like he’s done with literally everyone else before him.
I can’t wait for Trump to refer to the couch fucking.
He’s a low energy guy. Low energy. I heard some rumors about couches and JD. Nasty rumors. Rumors are sometimes true.
Everybody’s saying it…
👐🫲🫱☝️☝️🙏✋✋✊✊🫸🫷
Can’t wait for him to run again in 4 years
Hopefully he does and plagues the GOP for the next 3 cycles.
I totally agree. His next primary should be hilarious lol
He’s already got his sharpie out to cross out pence and write in vance after “hang”
After trying to have his last Veep hung, I’m not really sure why anybody would think it would go any different for them. I guess he found another thoroughbred narcissist to join him this time. “It couldn’t possibly happen to me.”
The thing that almost got Pence killed was having a tiny shred of respect for his responsibilities. That’s not a problem for someone who’s completely self-serving or all in for Trump.
And yet he will be thrown under the bus at Trump’s earliest convenience.
I don’t quite understand this reasoning, though, since he would never acknowledge losing anyway and his freedom may rely on winning this election.
That didn’t happen. And if it did, it wasn’t that bad. And if it was, that’s not a big deal. And if it is, that’s not my fault. <----- And if it was, I didn’t mean it. And if I did, you deserved it.
That’s why. He’ll jump to number six after he loses, saying the GOP didn’t support him enough and they deserved to lose.
his freedom may rely on winning this election
If he were ever in danger of actual imprisonment, he could always move to Russia or Saudi Arabia.
Possibly say Vance was working for the democrats to sabotage him
Is this going to happen from prison? Lmao
With the Supreme Court and Judge Cannon in his pocket, he will never see the inside of a prison cell.
But Trumps only reason for president is to dismiss the federal charges against him. Intentionally losing the race doesn’t help that goal.
If they get to a point where they know they cannot win the race, they will shift tactics and it will no longer be about the election, but about the peaceful transfer of power in January. Biden himself came out and said it yesterday, I think there is a real, genuine concern of Trump and his base “flipping the board” so to speak.
But Trumps only reason for president is to dismiss the federal charges against him.
That’s just the tip of the iceberg. Trump wants another stab at the Prez because he wants to settle scores. This wouldn’t just be an attempt at a self-pardon. He fully intended to unleash his DOJ and law enforcement on the political opposition.
Trump has had more ramblings and incoherent moments than ever before recently. I think his team is hiding him so he can recover somehow because his dementia is just unraveling
Good! Love to see it.
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Donald is sending this hated guy around to campaign solely because Donald is a low-energy geriatric suffering from dementia. He is far too old to be president.
Wish people actually believed this, rather than just tossing it out as a barb. Wouldn’t mind seeing a statutory requirement for Presidents to be under the age of 75. But it would never see the light of day in our gerontocracy.
“People” meaning voters? Because I’m pretty sure the people tossing the barb believe it. I certainly do. It’s not the worst thing about Trump by far, but it’s a problem nonetheless.
Because I’m pretty sure the people tossing the barb believe it.
“Age doesn’t matter because Trump is worse” was the refrain on this sub for months.
It’s not the worst thing about Trump by far
That’s the problem with any kind of generic critique. If you’re always carving out an exception because it’s a two party system where one party always sucks, then “He’s too old” has no substance. You’re going to vote for whatever the only acceptable party feeds you, whether its a spry young cop-loving prosecutor from California or an 80 year old Senatorial mummy from Delaware.
Age isn’t relevant when you’re choosing between two people who are the same age. That’s no longer the case, so age is now a distinguishing factor.
Anyway, my gripe with the age talk wasn’t that age doesn’t matter; it was that Biden was being hammered on it as if Trump is somehow better in that regard.
Age isn’t relevant when you’re choosing between two people who are the same age.
Are you suggesting that you’d support a Trump campaign if he’d been 20 years younger?
Hell no, and I already said it’s not the most important factor. But in a sane world where both candidates are decent people, age could very well be a deciding factor for me.
But in a sane world where both candidates are decent people
The partisan divide is predicated on assuming your rivals aren’t good people. That’s why everyone loves calling each other Tankies and Communists/Fascists and foreign shills.
Anyway, my gripe with the age talk wasn’t that age doesn’t matter; it was that Biden was being hammered on it as if Trump is somehow better in that regard.
Pretty much this. People kept harping about Biden’s issues with speaking due to his age while somehow completely ignoring that Trump makes no sense in his blathering rambling at any point and hasn’t made any sense in years, but I wonder how much of that was manufactured by MAGA hats because age is literally the only sane argument they had against Biden. Reading transcripts of Trump’s bull shit was mind-numbing and he’s pushing 80 too.
75? How bout just 65?
I’ll gladly meet you in the middle at 70.
How about we tie the ability to serve in the government to being below retirement age period?
I think we should tie it to life expectancy. “No person may be a candidate for office if their age at the end of their term would exceed 90% of the median US life expectancy.”
It would keep politicians younger and motivate them to make policies that improve life expectancy. Win-win.
With current US life expectancy being laughably bad, that’d be something
Oh man that’s better.
Do you want them to raise the age of retirement? Because they’ll make you work till you’re a thousand before they all quit en masse.
Go figure, people don’t want zealots chiming in about why they are or why they are not having children?
Don’t believe polls, they don’t mean anything. Go out and vote. It’s not over till it’s over. Otherwise we risk things going tits up again.
I think knowing that I will be undermining JD Vance (and Trump, of course) will be a gigantic motivator for me.
This will be even better than the first time I voted against him
Yes, the good guys need to win overwhelmingly to overcome the bad guys cheating.
It’s not fair, but that’s the system we have right now.
Wow, really looks like little-t fucked the couch on this one.
