• Cosmonauticus@lemmy.world
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    Despite what ppl tell you, prisoners are ppl. Treating murders, rapists, thieves, etc worse than they did their victims is not justice

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      1 month ago

      Violent criminals are a fairly small fraction of total inmates, and a whopping 76% of the Texas jail population hasn’t even been convicted of a crime.

      Also, Texas loves rapists and most of them aren’t in prison anyway. Not to mention Abbott just pardoned that convicted homicidal murderer.

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        Abbott just pardoned that convicted homicidal murderer.

        Looked that up and wow thats crazy. Man texted all his racist friends about wanting to kill black people in the morning. Then he ran his car into a crowd of people. Someone walks up to him with a gun (i wonder why?) and he kills him.

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        This is only local jails, which makes sense as people are waiting trial then move on to long term prison.

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          In my local county (in Texas), there was a guy in jail for 5 years without trial (I think he’s going in 6 years without trial, but a go-fund-me paid his bail last year), and 2 years in jail without trial is not uncommon.

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      One of the dead guys was sentenced for unlawful possession of a firearm. Not that he necessarily did anything with it; he just had it.

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        We had a patient in acute psychosis arive on the unit with a gun in their bag. Like, so psychotic she was saying she was seeing demons and was interacting with those demons more than she was able to interact with us. The ED had metal detectors that should have caught it and had her down there for 8 hours with that bag in the room with her. She had all the American hospital bedside essentials, call bell, water pitcher, gun, and TV remote! They’re really lucky they didn’t get someone shot.

        She was willing to take some Haldol and got pretty lucid pretty quickly, and when the cops showed up to collect the firearm she was able to at least give a statement (I don’t remember exactly but I do remember thinking it sounded… less than completely factual). She got charged with the same thing though iirc. I think she probably knew more about the legality of her obtaining a gun than she was letting on, but that also doesn’t discount the role of psychosis in this; the paranoia alone could’ve caused her to feel even illicitly obtaining a gun was necessary.

        None of these things would even remotely justify boiling someone alive.

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          On the front page earlier today was an account of somebody who carried a gun; in two separate instances, people from his neighborhood ambushed him and shot him (and in one instance it was verified on security footage that he defended himself with it after he’d been shot, and would have been killed without having the gun on him). In both cases he got charged with unlawful possession and imprisoned for the gun that saved his life.

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      It actually might be justice, depending on their crimes… But I agree with treating prisoners well because countless prisoners don’t deserve anything remotely this bad. There are even a fair few innocent people in this broken system of ours.