• whenthebigonefinallyhitsla@kbin.run
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    Concluding that Russia interfered with an election to Trump’s benefit isn’t the same thing as concluding that Trump conspired with the Russians

    Even if the report had concluded they conspired, concluding they conspired isn’t the same thing as having “sufficient evidence to seek criminal charges”

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        we focused on whether the evidence was sufficient to charge any member of the campaign with taking part in a criminal conspiracy. It was not.

        from here

        maybe he did but that’s the only definitive statement i can find from him on the matter

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          Mueller was talking about obstruction. It’s hard to prove conspiracy if your witnesses are allowed to obstruct.

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      But, the report said, “because we determined not to make a traditional prosecutorial judgment, we did not draw ultimate conclusions about the President’s conduct.

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      the investigation established multiple links between Trump Campaign officials and individuals tied to the Russian government. Those links included Russia offers of assistance to the Campaign.

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        But, the report said, “because we determined not to make a traditional prosecutorial judgment, we did not draw ultimate conclusions about the President’s conduct.

        i presume you’re pulling that from volume 2 of the report, since you didn’t link anything

        volume 1 deals with election interference

        volume 2 deals with obstruction of justice

        or in other words, your quote isn’t relevant to evidence for conspiracy with russia

         

        the investigation established multiple links between Trump Campaign officials and individuals tied to the Russian government. Those links included Russia offers of assistance to the Campaign.

        “establishing multiple links” isn’t the same thing as concluding they conspired, but even if it was, the second line of my initial comment addresses this:

        Even if the report had concluded they conspired, concluding they conspired isn’t the same thing as having “sufficient evidence to seek criminal charges”